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| The Sage |
Posted - 07 Sep 2008 : 02:50:38
As part of a "little" side-project I currently have in the works [and yes, it's music-based again  ], I'm looking for ALL the interpretations of the Skald class published in 3e/3.5e. I don't have the time at the moment to search through most of the PrC-class heavy books. So, if some of my fellow scribes could just name the particular resources where such classes are located, that should be sufficient.
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| Jamallo Kreen |
Posted - 23 Sep 2008 : 03:19:50
Okay, Sage, here are my preliminary gleanings.
The following are but glimpses into the wide world(s) of bards, some of whom may fit your definition of "skalds," and some who will not, and you may go from hence to any of several different directions. The order in which I list these is not significant to your study.
First, consult the Wheel of Time for the "Gleeman" and his prestigious offspring, if any. Alas, I do not have the book and my free searching period of this book on Amazon.com has been exhausted. If you do not have it, perhaps you can solicit the aid of someone who does.
Second, there is Requiem for a God, by Monte Cook, I think, but certainly from Malhavoc Press. Alas, I cannot locate my beloved copy to assist you further at this time. The book features a prestige class who sings of dead gods.
Third, there is Occult Lore, a Penumbra book from Atlas. I refer you to the "Heraldic Wanderer" on pages 96 et seq, written by Adam Bank. The Heraldic Wanderer can place his thoughts into a "herm," a construct from which he and others of his class may extract them at a future time, creating thereby a resource for future Heraldic Wanderers. While they are far from being "gleemen," they are nonetheless the repositories of bardic lore for their own and future generations, thus fulfilling a key skaldic function.
Fourth, I refer you to Path of Magic, a Legends & Lairs book, written by Wil Upchurch, et al. which has the "Chanter" on pages 10 to 15, with the "Grand Diva" a few pages after that. She, presumably, is the skald of those who "dress" for dinner (even if they are already wearing clothes).
I have saved the very best for last: White Wolf's Sword & Sorcery book Player's Guide to Wizards, Bards and Sorcerers. This is a "must buy" book, in my opinion. There are several chapters/appendices on bards, bardic instruments, and bard prestige classes. The latter are all directed at the Scarred Lands, but they have suggestions on adapting them to other settings. I have been dawdling about uploading details from this book, so I submit herewith my preliminary research from the other publishers. Eventually I'll get around to posting details from PGtWBaS. I have a long-standing question in to Ed about whether or not Toril has a counterpart to one of these Scarn bardic prestige classes, a bard who can "remember" what the world itself knows!
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| The Sage |
Posted - 09 Sep 2008 : 00:42:37
quote:
Originally posted by Jamallo Kreen
How broadly are you defining "skald"? Have you looked at Ragnarok? It may have something of interest to you.
I can allow for a fairly broad definition at the moment. As I said above, the article is still in the draft stage, so I don't have to be too strict.. for now. |
| Purple Dragon Knight |
Posted - 09 Sep 2008 : 00:15:57
Dragon mag also had a whole article on bards in Waterdeep... |
| Jamallo Kreen |
Posted - 08 Sep 2008 : 22:06:56
Thank goddess! I'm still awake from yesterday. (Don't it show?) I'll try to get something before Thursday.
How broadly are you defining "skald"? Have you looked at Ragnarok? It may have something of interest to you.
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| The Sage |
Posted - 08 Sep 2008 : 14:52:14
quote:
Originally posted by Jamallo Kreen
Don't close your files yet, Sage. I'll look up Scarn classes for you on Monday. Just now I am too tired to do it.
Right. There's no hurry, really... I'm still tinkering with some ideas, and the article itself is still in its draft stage. |
| Quale |
Posted - 08 Sep 2008 : 12:59:44
these are close
Wildsinger Green Ronin: Bow & Blade pg. 50
Stormsinger Frostburn pg. 70
Dawncaller Races of Stone pg. 103
Dwarven Chanter Prestige in the Realms pg. 15 |
| Jamallo Kreen |
Posted - 08 Sep 2008 : 10:48:35
Don't close your files yet, Sage. I'll look up Scarn classes for you on Monday. Just now I am too tired to do it.
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| Quale |
Posted - 08 Sep 2008 : 10:37:42
Knight of the Cord in Ptolus pg. 654
I'm sure there were more ... |
| The Sage |
Posted - 08 Sep 2008 : 01:05:23
Thanks folks. If and when this project sees potential publication, I'll be sure to note just how helpful you've all been. Good stuff!  |
| Yuen |
Posted - 07 Sep 2008 : 19:25:18
After a bit more digging on the character optimization boards I come up with another 2: Memory Smith and Battle Howler of Gruumsh. They're in dragon #311. Sadly I can't really comment on them because I don't own that issue, but they're both mentioned in the more melee oriented bard builds on the boards. |
| Artemel |
Posted - 07 Sep 2008 : 18:29:43
This isn't exactly what you asked for... but it's useful I fell, nonetheless.
http://www.d20srd.org/srd/variant/classes/variantCharacterClasses.htm#bardVariantSavageBard |
| Yuen |
Posted - 07 Sep 2008 : 14:44:19
Ultimate Prestige Classes Vol I by Mongoose Publishing has a Skald on page 197. It's a 10 lvl prestige class
[edit] ah, and there's also the War Chanter from Complete Warrior page 87. I don't know if there's a Drow specific Dirgesinger out there, but the one in Libris Mortis is more like a singing Necromancer than focusing on combat, with songs to raise and buff undeads and strike fear into the hearts of the living. |
| Ashe Ravenheart |
Posted - 07 Sep 2008 : 13:32:00
Isn't there a Drow Dirgesinger class that's skald-like? |
| The Sage |
Posted - 07 Sep 2008 : 06:53:47
I was actually going to ask about skald-like classes included in other non D&D and third-party sources.
Thanks Jamallo. |
| Jamallo Kreen |
Posted - 07 Sep 2008 : 04:36:17
Sage, are you only interested in Realms appearances? If not, Ultimate Prestige Classes, Vol. I has a skald on pp 197 et seq. I don't t know the source, but it's probably The Quintessential Bard.
Scarn has several bard classes which may be interpreted as skalds.
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| The Sage |
Posted - 07 Sep 2008 : 03:32:38
Heh. There's only one -- the 'Warrior Skald' from Races of Faerūn. I always thought there were more. Curious. |
| The Sage |
Posted - 07 Sep 2008 : 03:30:27
Oh, I forgot about the PrC Index. Thanks Kuje.  |
| Kuje |
Posted - 07 Sep 2008 : 02:57:21
This might help......
http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/lists/prc&tablesort=1
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