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| Dennis |
Posted - 16 Sep 2010 : 00:13:50
Can anyone provide more information about these arcanists/archwizards? Or least the references other than Netheril: Empire of Magic? Did they appear in old novels?
Terraseer
Congenio Ioun
Halavar
Noanar
Tolodine
Trebbe
Aksa
Anglin
Chever
Chronomancer
Fourfinger
Fahren
Enollar
Hamring
Quantoul
Volhm
Lucke
Oberon
Xanad
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| Dennis |
Posted - 17 Sep 2010 : 22:47:54
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Originally posted by Markustay
The Netherease Chronomancer, died because he, quite literally, "ran out of time" (an infection that wasn't treated promptly). Doesn't that seem a bit suspicious, especially considering his school of magic and level of power? I'm guessing he knew what was going to happen to Netheril and and faked his own demise, and now lives quite happily within the very plane he discovered.
Like I said, conjecture, nothing more.
My thoughts as well. I also think he's not the only one who “staged” his death. Some arcanists, most specially the accomplished diviners, must have already forseen Karsus's Folly and covered their exits by staging a fake death.
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Originally posted by Markustay
I thought there was some other material about Ioun? Or was that the core Ioun and not the Netherease one?
I'm not even sure if the two were different. The name 'Ioun' was used in GH first, but that could have been more of that cross-planer polination we get from FR being a 'crossroads' of sorts. He could have been the core inventor, and his achievments spread to the other spheres.
BTW, Ioun stones are called 'Warfu Stones' in Kara-Tur, and were "placed there by the Lords of Karma, at the direction of the Celestial Emperor".
Which makes me wonder... did Ioun merely take credit for something he discovered in his travels, or did the celestial Bureaucracy copy them? Given the time-frame, I would hazard to guess they appeared in the east long before Ioun came up with them. Perhaps the ones in the east are artifacts and can be 'found', and Ioun got a hold of one and managed to duplicate it with Weave magic.
Sorry for the side-topic... I always felt the Netherease "stood on the shoulders of giants", and took credit for quite a bit that others had actually done first.
Thanks. All these you mentioned I didn't know till now.
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| Markustay |
Posted - 17 Sep 2010 : 20:40:37
There is a 2e product called Chronomancer, and you could extrapolate that the mysterious lord of the plane of time is indeed the same Chronomancer as as the one from the Netheril material, but its not canon.
No details are ever given about that shadowy figure, and I had always assumed it was left just that way for the sort of conjecture I am doing here.
The Netherease Chronomancer, died because he, quite literally, "ran out of time" (an infection that wasn't treated promptly). Doesn't that seem a bit suspicious, especially considering his school of magic and level of power? I'm guessing he knew what was going to happen to Netheril and and faked his own demise, and now lives quite happily within the very plane he discovered.
Like I said, conjecture, nothing more.
I thought there was some other material about Ioun? Or was that the core Ioun and not the Netherease one?
I'm not even sure if the two were different. The name 'Ioun' was used in GH first, but that could have been more of that cross-planer polination we get from FR being a 'crossroads' of sorts. He could have been the core inventor, and his achievments spread to the other spheres.
BTW, Ioun stones are called 'Warfu Stones' in Kara-Tur, and were "placed there by the Lords of Karma, at the direction of the Celestial Emperor".
Which makes me wonder... did Ioun merely take credit for something he discovered in his travels, or did the celestial Bureaucracy copy them? Given the time-frame, I would hazard to guess they appeared in the east long before Ioun came up with them. Perhaps the ones in the east are artifacts and can be 'found', and Ioun got a hold of one and managed to duplicate it with Weave magic.
Sorry for the side-topic... I always felt the Netherease "stood on the shoulders of giants", and took credit for quite a bit that others had actually done first. |
| Dennis |
Posted - 17 Sep 2010 : 09:24:21
Thanks, Darsson. I'd check the first reference you mentioned.
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| Darsson Spellmaker |
Posted - 17 Sep 2010 : 06:56:21
The Terraseer's true nature is revealed in Lost Empires of Faerun.
The same book also reveals Congenio Ioun's ultimate fate.
Tolodine's greatest spell is detailed in the Player's Guide to Faerun.
Champions of Ruin says that Aumvor the Undying uses all of the bones of the skeleton of a famous netherese arcanist as his phylacteries. The skeleton might belong to one of the arcanists you named above.
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| Quale |
Posted - 16 Sep 2010 : 09:48:37
Congenio Ioun is Rhialto the Marvellous 
What about Parzal the Outrageous, he could be in Selunnara |
| Dennis |
Posted - 16 Sep 2010 : 08:01:48
I see. I was hoping there's more about them than those scanty information in the boxed set... |
| The Sage |
Posted - 16 Sep 2010 : 04:43:59
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Outside of the Netheril material, you're not going to find much on these folks. Most of them were never mentioned outside the boxed set.
Indeed. I think, at best, this is really more likely to be "whatever you [as the DM] wish them to be like" territory. There might be one or two rough references in material outside the old Netheril boxed set, but hardly enough info to warrant entry here, unfortunately.
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| Wooly Rupert |
Posted - 16 Sep 2010 : 04:38:56
Outside of the Netheril material, you're not going to find much on these folks. Most of them were never mentioned outside the boxed set. |
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