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| Jelennet |
Posted - 17 Apr 2011 : 11:37:22
A question out of mere curiosity. Mirt is very fat. What is his dexterity in Dnd? |
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| Gouf |
Posted - 19 Apr 2011 : 00:44:55
It's also possible that he had a 19 dex at one point (deck of many things, etc.) that could have magically bolstered his dex. Then it dropped to 17 again as he aged.... |
| Chosen of Asmodeus |
Posted - 19 Apr 2011 : 00:00:02
I'll write off Mirt's declining agility to his advancing years. If he were younger and just as heavy he'd probably be rather spry. |
| Lord Karsus |
Posted - 18 Apr 2011 : 18:37:39
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Originally posted by Faraer
17 Dex in FR7 Hall of Heroes, jumped to 18 in 3E.
For agile fatmen I think of Sammo Hung and Bam Bam Bigelow. But as noted, the 17/18 applies more to older-Mirt's manual dexterity than his agility.
-Nobody moonsaulted off the top rope like Big Van Vader, for sure. |
| Faraer |
Posted - 18 Apr 2011 : 17:46:01
17 Dex in FR7 Hall of Heroes, jumped to 18 in 3E.
For agile fatmen I think of Sammo Hung and Bam Bam Bigelow. But as noted, the 17/18 applies more to older-Mirt's manual dexterity than his agility. |
| Galuf the Dwarf |
Posted - 18 Apr 2011 : 15:29:32
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Originally posted by Brimstone
Probably got pruned.
That it likely did. |
| Brimstone |
Posted - 18 Apr 2011 : 12:29:32
quote:
Originally posted by Galuf the Dwarf
quote:
Originally posted by Dagnirion
quote:
Originally posted by Galuf the Dwarf
You don't remember the "Determining the fatness" thread?
-I do not. Link?
Tried looking for it, and all the sudden, I can't find it. 
Probably got pruned. |
| Alisttair |
Posted - 18 Apr 2011 : 11:59:15
I know some fat wrestlers who are pretty agile. |
| Galuf the Dwarf |
Posted - 18 Apr 2011 : 04:38:23
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Originally posted by Dagnirion
quote:
Originally posted by Galuf the Dwarf
You don't remember the "Determining the fatness" thread?
-I do not. Link?
Tried looking for it, and all the sudden, I can't find it. |
| Lord Karsus |
Posted - 18 Apr 2011 : 04:01:22
quote:
Originally posted by Galuf the Dwarf
You don't remember the "Determining the fatness" thread?
-I do not. Link? |
| The Sage |
Posted - 18 Apr 2011 : 02:21:27
quote:
Originally posted by Elfinblade
quote:
Originally posted by Jelennet
A question out of mere curiosity. Mirt is very fat. What is his dexterity in Dnd?
Mirt was a rotund man in his elder days. When he was young however, he definately could have had 18 dex. After all accounts he was a very active adventurer/brawler/womanizer etc. In his elder days however, i would assume he had somewhat less dex (if not aided by some magic trinket).
Essentially, this is how Ed also interprets Mirt, as he notes below, from February 2004:-
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... the fat, wheezing, sly Mirt the Moneylender (take Shakespeare’s Falstaff, and
add a dash of Poul Anderson’s Nicolas van Rijn and a handful of Glencannon), who’s crafty
as they come but too old and slow for great heroics.
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| Galuf the Dwarf |
Posted - 18 Apr 2011 : 01:31:25
quote:
Originally posted by Dagnirion
-I do not recall this.
You don't remember the "Determining the fatness" thread? |
| Eltheron |
Posted - 18 Apr 2011 : 00:13:21
I tend to think Mirt would have an 18 Dex. That said, the "fat, wheezing, and old" description he usually gets would suggest a far less amazing strength and con.
I see Dex as fast-twitch muscle. Str as general overall muscle. Con as someone's endurance over time.
But that's just my view.
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| Dalor Darden |
Posted - 17 Apr 2011 : 23:32:06
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Originally posted by AleksanderTheGreat
Fat has nothing to do with anything!
Why in the hells...
I'm here for DnD damninit man! 
Seriously though, I'm 6' 285 lbs now; and I can still land a roundhouse kick on someone's cheek my height...I daresay Mirt has even better dexterity than I do! |
| Lord Karsus |
Posted - 17 Apr 2011 : 22:54:15
-Mark Buehrle is listed as 6'2", 235 lbs. He's a kinda chunky guy. And yet, chunky guys can do stuff like this: http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20100405&content_id=9091930&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb]. Being dexterous is not limited to being thin and lithe.
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Originally posted by Galuf the Dwarf
Of course, let's not forget, D&D/Forgotten Realms is not reality, so it's hard to really be realistic. 
And trust me, Jelennet, there was a thread like this years ago on the Wizards of the Coast Forgotten Realms boards, and it just about turned into a complete (flame) war, especially with one female user complaining about how she's struggled with her weight and going back & forth until she finally (and wisely) decided to back out of the whole argument. She was RATHER annoying for the most part either way, namely with most of what she said being rude to people. 
-I do not recall this. |
| AleksanderTheGreat |
Posted - 17 Apr 2011 : 22:33:28
Fat has nothing to do with anything! |
| Wooly Rupert |
Posted - 17 Apr 2011 : 22:06:04
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Originally posted by Chosen of Asmodeus
Building muscle and trimming fat are two separate and independant things, and building agility is about building the right muscles. It is fully possible to be "fat" and quite agile. There's nothing unrealistic about Mirt's score.
Indeed. I once saw a guy who was over 400 pounds prove to be quite the dancer. He had, once upon a time, been quite athletic, and he still had good moves and good muscles -- the latter were just well hidden. |
| Chosen of Asmodeus |
Posted - 17 Apr 2011 : 17:50:00
Building muscle and trimming fat are two separate and independant things, and building agility is about building the right muscles. It is fully possible to be "fat" and quite agile. There's nothing unrealistic about Mirt's score. |
| AleksanderTheGreat |
Posted - 17 Apr 2011 : 17:41:43
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Originally posted by Galuf the Dwarf
Of course, let's not forget, D&D/Forgotten Realms is not reality, so it's hard to really be realistic.
And trust me, Jelennet, there was a thread like this years ago on the Wizards of the Coast Forgotten Realms boards, and it just about turned into a complete (flame) war, especially with one female user complaining about how she's struggled with her weight and going back & forth until she finally (and wisely) decided to back out of the whole argument. She was RATHER annoying for the most part either way, namely with most of what she said being rude to people.
Link or it didn't happen. :P |
| Galuf the Dwarf |
Posted - 17 Apr 2011 : 17:37:56
Of course, let's not forget, D&D/Forgotten Realms is not reality, so it's hard to really be realistic.
And trust me, Jelennet, there was a thread like this years ago on the Wizards of the Coast Forgotten Realms boards, and it just about turned into a complete (flame) war, especially with one female user complaining about how she's struggled with her weight and going back & forth until she finally (and wisely) decided to back out of the whole argument. She was RATHER annoying for the most part either way, namely with most of what she said being rude to people. |
| Elfinblade |
Posted - 17 Apr 2011 : 15:38:52
quote:
Originally posted by Jelennet
A question out of mere curiosity. Mirt is very fat. What is his dexterity in Dnd?
Mirt was a rotund man in his elder days. When he was young however, he definately could have had 18 dex. After all accounts he was a very active adventurer/brawler/womanizer etc. In his elder days however, i would assume he had somewhat less dex (if not aided by some magic trinket). |
| Chosen of Asmodeus |
Posted - 17 Apr 2011 : 15:00:38
Why not 18? So long as he works out and keeps limber while still eating a whole lot it's perfectly reasonable. |
| AleksanderTheGreat |
Posted - 17 Apr 2011 : 14:50:17
Uuuhhh, sourcebooks? |
| Jelennet |
Posted - 17 Apr 2011 : 14:03:12
18? Why? Where did you get it? |
| Chosen of Asmodeus |
Posted - 17 Apr 2011 : 14:00:04
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Acrofatic
For your reading pleasure. |
| AleksanderTheGreat |
Posted - 17 Apr 2011 : 12:00:12
18. |
