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| Charles Phipps |
Posted - 24 Mar 2006 : 04:20:34
Will their presence start to have an effect on how elves view half-elves?
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| scererar |
Posted - 25 Mar 2006 : 09:30:51
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Originally posted by Charles Phipps
I've read the article actually.
I tend to prefer the WOTC expansion actually to a large extent.
I understand your point though.
Cool, than we are good then  . I for one like to support the authors and their individual interpretations/canon offerings. Just checking but I saw that you were an author, of another type of sci-fi... right? |
| Charles Phipps |
Posted - 25 Mar 2006 : 09:24:30
I've read the article actually.
I tend to prefer the WOTC expansion actually to a large extent.
I understand your point though.
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| scererar |
Posted - 25 Mar 2006 : 09:09:21
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Originally posted by Charles Phipps
The Moonblades were designed to protect the destiny of elves. The Seldarine consider half-elves to be elves so I frankly don't get what purpose in restricting them from such would really be? I frankly think its rather disturbing Half-Orcs are accepted by Orcs more readily than Half-Elves.
Already, we have a half-elf bladesinger so its filtering into canon already.
But that's not what this thread is about. It's about WILL it IF IT DOES. Not whether or not it should.
1/2 orc's were not a part of the earlier discussion, however, I would still refer you to the articles presented by Elaine Cunningham on the moonblade subject. I have noticed from your earier posts, that you like to debate , but check this out first and then I would be more than happy to continue this "discussion" further. As far as 1/2 orcs, I think 3E brought that about, not me or my peers.
I agree, the discussion should be centered on your original intent... I don't think it should be common place, and once Again I would refer you to EC;s Articles pertaining to what the original intent of the moonblades were. Fan fiction and and combination of TSR and WOTC has made them bigger than what was originally intended |
| Charles Phipps |
Posted - 25 Mar 2006 : 08:58:56
The Moonblades were designed to protect the destiny of elves. The Seldarine consider half-elves to be elves so I frankly don't get what purpose in restricting them from such would really be? I frankly think its rather disturbing Half-Orcs are accepted by Orcs more readily than Half-Elves.
Already, we have a half-elf bladesinger so its filtering into canon already.
But that's not what this thread is about. It's about WILL it IF IT DOES. Not whether or not it should.
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| scererar |
Posted - 25 Mar 2006 : 07:55:26
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Originally posted by Charles Phipps
Will their presence start to have an effect on how elves view half-elves?
This is something that should not be allowed to happen. the Moonblades were not designed for this purpose. If you feel that manipulating the blades for your own campaign, like I said before, to each his own. This should not end up as canon though. If you read a forgotten realms book, that covers this, you will discover what the intent was. Until then, I will classify this as a bunch of Drizzt want-a-be's. ( and for the record I thouroughly enjoy Drizzt and Arilyn equally) |
| scererar |
Posted - 25 Mar 2006 : 07:32:15
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Originally posted by Charles Phipps
Well there's already a second one in canon.
and no offense, it was a matter of great campaign importance.
Whether you feel it benefits your campaign or not is wonderful but you probably didn't have a Half-Elf desperate to prove himself to the Pantheon and his people plus want to gain admission to a Great House so he could marry a Moonflower Princess.
(He probably still won't but the players background screamed "I want a Moonblade!")
I jerked the character around for over a year game time but he so adamantly defensive, differential, and tirelessly heroic what was I going to do when he went on an adventure to recover his family Moonblade...
Kill him when he drew it?
cool, that is what I was asking for, an example of another 1/2 elven, moonblade wielding, whatever. show me, that is what I was asking As far as canon goes, I want to know know what I am missing. But what I am thinking is... is it your canon or mine  |
| Charles Phipps |
Posted - 25 Mar 2006 : 07:29:22
Well there's already a second one in canon.
and no offense, it was a matter of great campaign importance.
Whether you feel it benefits your campaign or not is wonderful but you probably didn't have a Half-Elf desperate to prove himself to the Pantheon and his people plus want to gain admission to a Great House so he could marry a Moonflower Princess.
(He probably still won't but the players background screamed "I want a Moonblade!")
I jerked the character around for over a year game time but he so adamantly defensive, differential, and tirelessly heroic what was I going to do when he went on an adventure to recover his family Moonblade...
Kill him when he drew it?
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| scererar |
Posted - 25 Mar 2006 : 07:02:06
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Originally posted by Charles Phipps
Well for me, its because of the second Moonblade being wielded by a half-elf and the fact that in our games we already had another.
So its no longer a "what if" scenario but a clear case of half-elven heroes being able to wield them.
great, if that is what you wuold allow in your campaign, to each his own. I would not. I feel that in "my" campaign, Having one 1/2 Elven moonblade wielding adventurerer is enough. This almost reminds me of all of the drow rangers running arounf Fearun these days, that you were in disagreement about, in other posts. I remember an incident in real life, when I was stationed in Korea in the Army, I had another NCO (that had the priviledge to have my last name) walk by and tell me that there was only room for one SGT. Carpenter on the peninsula, I told him to leave then! |
| The Sage |
Posted - 25 Mar 2006 : 01:06:02
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Originally posted by scererar
Sage will probably be able to point in the direction of the scroll, but I believe there are a couple of articles around here from EC, that talks about the moonblades, Arilyn receiving/ surviving hers, and what the "family" of that particular moonblade felt about it.
Indeed.
Elaine's comments are compiled in the files Kuje put together for author/game designer replies here at Candlekeep. Check his sig for the URL and download he files... performing a relevant search through the replies for moonblade-specific replies.
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| Charles Phipps |
Posted - 24 Mar 2006 : 18:46:49
Well for me, its because of the second Moonblade being wielded by a half-elf and the fact that in our games we already had another.
So its no longer a "what if" scenario but a clear case of half-elven heroes being able to wield them.
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| scererar |
Posted - 24 Mar 2006 : 15:15:53
Are there any examples of 1/2 elven moonblade wielders(not counting the one we all know), or are you asking a what if senerio?.
Sage will probably be able to point in the direction of the scroll, but I believe there are a couple of articles around here from EC, that talks about the moonblades, Arilyn receiving/ surviving hers, and what the "family" of that particular moonblade felt about it.
I am hazy on this, but I seem to remember, she(EC) also discussed in these articles about the role of the moonblade and how it took off/became more popular, than the original intent.
Additionally, If you have not read Elaine Cunningham's novels, you are missing out, they are all great. Evermeet and the songs and swords trilogy (is that right, I have all of these under the harpers titles). these deal with the moonblades, their history, and one moonblade wielding 1/2 elf in particular. |
| Kajehase |
Posted - 24 Mar 2006 : 08:12:05
It won't change the way elves view half-elves, but it will make the Sun elves resent moonblade-wielders even more |
| Sarta |
Posted - 24 Mar 2006 : 08:06:51
I wouldn't think it would have a huge impact other than to cause a few individuals to jump the fence one way or another and possibly to polarize folks' beliefs with regard to half-elves.
If one moderately or greatly disliked half-elves, they will likely see it as an abomination that should be destroyed so that the sword could possibly fall into the hands of a more suitable heir.
If one moderately or greatly likes half-elves, they will likely see it as justification of their belief that half-elves should be treated with as much (or almost as much) respect as full blooded elves.
Those with only minor leanings one way or another may jump to the other camp's views or may become more strident in their beliefs.
Likewise, some half-elves may see it as justification of their worth and others may simply see it as unwelcome news being that it draws more attention to them and their status.
It definitely shakes things up though. |
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