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| darkcrow |
Posted - 25 Nov 2005 : 23:47:42
Lately I have seen alot of fantasy books made into Movies. After reading many of these Forgotten Realms novels, I yearn to see them brought to life. If YOU had to choose only one novel to be made into a movie, which one would you choose? |
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| GothicDan |
Posted - 29 Jul 2006 : 05:44:27
And, oddly enough, as much as I love Evermeet, I don't think it'd do well on the big screen. Not without a lot of already existent knowledge of the setting, at least. |
| Rinonalyrna Fathomlin |
Posted - 29 Jul 2006 : 05:24:55
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Originally posted by GothicDan
And there certainly is a lot of action in his novels, and that's what sells.
Exactly. |
| GothicDan |
Posted - 29 Jul 2006 : 05:18:45
And there certainly is a lot of action in his novels, and that's what sells. |
| Rinonalyrna Fathomlin |
Posted - 29 Jul 2006 : 05:18:18
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Originally posted by FridayThe13th
I think that a classic like Icewind Dale or the Dark Elf Trilogy should be made into a movie. That way, more people can be introduced to the world of Toril through film.
Like many other people, I'm not overly enthusiatic about the Drizzt stories. However, I don't think there is any denying that a Drizzt movie would likely be the most bankable, since RAS is the most popular FR author. |
| Wooly Rupert |
Posted - 29 Jul 2006 : 05:13:22
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Originally posted by FridayThe13th
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Originally posted by Rory
I always thought Dragonlance's Chronicles would be more marektable then any FR's novel but I would love The City of Ravens on the big screen.
Actually they are making Chronicles into a movie. It is about an hour and a half animated movie based on Dragons of Autumn Twilight.
Here is the official site:http://www.dragonlance-movie.com/movie/
I think that a classic like Icewind Dale or the Dark Elf Trilogy should be made into a movie. That way, more people can be introduced to the world of Toril through film.
Not all of us regard those trilogies as classics. Besides, I've addressed before the reasons I think that this would be a bad idea (though not everyone shares my opinion). |
| FridayThe13th |
Posted - 29 Jul 2006 : 04:56:46
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Originally posted by Rory
I always thought Dragonlance's Chronicles would be more marektable then any FR's novel but I would love The City of Ravens on the big screen.
Actually they are making Chronicles into a movie. It is about an hour and a half animated movie based on Dragons of Autumn Twilight.
Here is the official site:http://www.dragonlance-movie.com/movie/
I think that a classic like Icewind Dale or the Dark Elf Trilogy should be made into a movie. That way, more people can be introduced to the world of Toril through film.
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| thekosta |
Posted - 28 Jul 2006 : 19:13:23
Personally I would like to see the Threat from the Sea in a movie format. I would enjoy seeing how they would protray the sahuagin. |
| Von Seossk |
Posted - 28 Jul 2006 : 02:40:04
Well, in my opinion, I think the books I would most likely want to be made into a movie would proably be either the Finder's Stone Trilogy or the Icewind Dale trilogy. Great stories, memorable characters, and loads of action. They would really need the high end treatment like Lord of the Rings though, so they don't end up like the first two D&D movies, which while entertaining, no one would ever confuse with an fantastic movie |
| Odysseus |
Posted - 28 Dec 2005 : 16:04:10
A few things to keep in mind with movies.
It takes an average of seven years, to go from an idea to release. So if someon wanted to put a FR movie out it would be the end of 2012 before it would hit the theaters.
Books tell a story, movies show a story. The harry potter movies show how this can be a big problem.
From a producers point of view, why make a FR movie. FR the background, there interested in the story. FR may impact the merchandising side of it, but thats it really.
If its going to happen. Then it will be by a director who's a FR fan IMO.
ps My choice would be the ervis cale trilogy. |
| Crennen FaerieBane |
Posted - 09 Dec 2005 : 01:08:13
I think a silver haired Charlize Theron would be a good Alustriel. A silver-haired Kate Beckinsale would be a good Dove.
And Rory was supposed to be in the video game topic thread. As that is where we are discussing 360s and all of that fun stuff.
Which I have to tear myself away from here now, else I'll never get to play my Quake 4!!
C-Fb |
| Kajehase |
Posted - 09 Dec 2005 : 00:44:27
And take up half the movie's budget. But let's dream  |
| The Sage |
Posted - 09 Dec 2005 : 00:18:32
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Originally posted by Kajehase
Isn't she a tad young to play Storm, though? I believe Ed's described the Seven Sisters as looking to be "in their late thirties, early forties but to damn good looking to care." (Not sure how exact that quote is.) And I think I'd prefer, say, Nicole Kidman anyway.
I actually think Kaje is more on the mark here... a silver-haired Kidman would make an intriguing cast choice for Storm.
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| Kajehase |
Posted - 09 Dec 2005 : 00:15:20
Isn't she a tad young to play Storm, though? I believe Ed's described the Seven Sisters as looking to be "in their late thirties, early forties but to damn good looking to care." (Not sure how exact that quote is.) And I think I'd prefer, say, Nicole Kidman anyway. |
| George Krashos |
Posted - 08 Dec 2005 : 22:59:28
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Originally posted by sleyvas
Stormlight
but only if they keep all the scenes where her clothes disappear.... and use Jessica Simpson or some other hottie as Storm.
I'm with Sleyvas. 
-- George Krashos
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| sleyvas |
Posted - 08 Dec 2005 : 22:47:19
Stormlight
but only if they keep all the scenes where her clothes disappear.... and use Jessica Simpson or some other hottie as Storm. |
| Winterfox |
Posted - 08 Dec 2005 : 20:31:01
Hey, wrong topic? |
| Rory |
Posted - 08 Dec 2005 : 20:12:28
A buddy of mine is getting married out of state so I have to use my 360 money to go. I have never played Demon Stone. I think I will tell my gf to buy it and wrap it for Christmas with a couple other games.
The reason why I would rather have a fighting game over an action adventure game is that most action adventure games are stiff button smashers. I would love a 6-player action adventure game set up like Ninja Gaiden with Drizzt moving with the speed of Ryu when he uses the flails and Bruenor and Wulfgar moving like Ryu does with the large sword and the hammer. Give us the real events/enemies from the novels and it would be gorgeous. That’s why I would rather see this idea on next gen consoles because I don’t think the current gen could support 6 Ryu’s online with the speed we saw from Gaiden .
That said I would rather see a FR fighting game because it’s easier on a developer and just about every fighting game has horrible character concepts. It would be nice to hit the Japanese and American arcades with some real fantasy bloodshed. I think people would respond well to that Battlerager from Bruenor’s clan having a bloody battle with that Darkhope chick that leads the Zent’s military. Oooo that would be a brutal battle.
You know when you think about it a multiplayer adventure game and a multiplayer fighting game are almost one and the same anyway.
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| Beezy |
Posted - 08 Dec 2005 : 15:48:24
Yea Evermeet and Cormyr are just kind of a history of a place and speed through the history really quickly and at times I was a little confused myself. It was a good book, don't get me wrong, but I don't know if it would be such a great movie unaltered. |
| Crennen FaerieBane |
Posted - 08 Dec 2005 : 14:25:32
Unless you want it to be as confusing as Momento. If you did Evermeet that way, it might work.
At least Evermeet wouldn't be rock bottom on my list.
C-Fb |
| Winterfox |
Posted - 08 Dec 2005 : 09:42:34
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Originally posted by squee37
evermeet. definitely. it's the only one that, while reading, i was constantly contemplating the best ways to translate it to a screenplay.
also, i think for non-forgottenrealms fans, it would be the best possible introduction. it spans history. the only problem is that it would be twice as expensive to produce as was the LoTR movies combined.
still, it would grab unfamiliar viewers and never let go.
I'm not sure about that. Don't take me wrong -- I loved Evermeet, but it's composed of a chain of very many historical events, and there are a lot of characters that show up once and never again. Hard to squish it into one movie. |
| Beezy |
Posted - 08 Dec 2005 : 06:20:15
The thing about movies is that they rarely do a book justice. The LoTR movies left out quite a few important events, like the whole end of the story haha. I used to read all of Michael Crichton's books and it seemed all the movies fell short of how good the novel was. Would a FR movie have the kind of budget it would need to pull it off well?
On the other hand it a FR movie did come out I would be there to see it. |
| squee37 |
Posted - 08 Dec 2005 : 05:30:24
evermeet. definitely. it's the only one that, while reading, i was constantly contemplating the best ways to translate it to a screenplay.
also, i think for non-forgottenrealms fans, it would be the best possible introduction. it spans history. the only problem is that it would be twice as expensive to produce as was the LoTR movies combined.
still, it would grab unfamiliar viewers and never let go. |
| Wooly Rupert |
Posted - 05 Dec 2005 : 23:07:47
Again, let us leave off this debate. You and I are obviously not going to agree. |
| Rory |
Posted - 05 Dec 2005 : 19:30:15
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
When has being ignorant of something stopped someone from complaining about something? Usually the people who are complaining are the ones who are either misinformed or are deliberately misconstruing things for their own benefits.
More then willing to change the subject but I just wanted to clarify a few things. People in general don’t want to go on TV and make fools of themselves. When Falwell was confronted about the Teletuby thing he retracted it. I think that would be the same way with Homeland. Between blacks that read Homeland and people like Larry Elder you could find people with a much better argument to defend the movie. I think they would see a losing battle.
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You were the one that brought up the Iraq war...
About the LA riots: my comment about the carefully selected shot was dead on. There was a lot more of that video tape. The media simply chose to run with the part of the tape that would get the most reaction. In effect, they caused the whole thing to blow up.
I have seen the whole thing and I thought it was worse. You see that he was resisting arrest but worse then that you see the actual length of the beating.
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You speak of patterns of injustice... Are you saying that depicting a race as evil would not be considered an injustice? I've been trying to point out that some people choose to be offended at the slightest thing. A recent example I heard about: someone complained about a school festival, because the kids were going to sing a song that mentioned picking cotton. There wasn't any part of the song that implied anything negative about picking cotton, but someone chose to be offended and raise a big stink about it, because, at one point in time, slaves picked cotton. The song said nothing about slaves or slavery, but he still considered it to be incredibly insensitive and racist.
No I dont think Homeland would be considered injustice by 99% of the public. The 1% would do little more stir debate and hype. Thats why I brought up the Iraq war. 1% is a huge protest I dont think its realistic to expect more. I think Drow would be more of a risk in a movie based on the Legacy wars where they are the only bad guys but even then with the right special effects you could make them look so unhuman the fact that they are black would not relate to black people as much as the fact that they have grey hair would relate to old people.
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You mentioned the Teletubbies, earlier, and Jerry Falwell. That's proof right there that if someone wants to read into something, they can. And they will. Proof is immaterial.
Heck, several years ago, half of the state of Florida was on fire. Why? Because our annual summer dry spell was particularly long and dry. Either Jerry Falwell or Pat Robertson (I don't recall which) said that God was punishing the entire state because of Disney. Because the Magic Kingdom extends benefits to same-sex partners, and because of the annual gathering of people who don't fit into this guy's view of what is right, he said God was punishing the entire state..
 I heard about that. I just have come to understand that Falwell and Robertson know when they can push the limits and when they know what battles they can and cant fight. I dont think either one of us are the exception to the rule. Most people can tell when people are acting foolish.
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Indeed. But these are people that choose to read them, and understand the intent. I daresay that the average gamer is both more intelligent and more tolerant than the average non-gamer.
Those thousands aren't the problem. The problem is the millions who wouldn't even think of picking up a fantasy novel.
It seems like with that you are selling a Homeland movie .
Millions would not have a negative reaction to the trailer. You would see a baby born with purple eyes, some hook horrors, Drizzts father doing something cool special effects etc etc you would never know they are were evil so those millions would have to learn from watching the movie or hearing about it on the news if there was contrivercy.
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*blinks* Uh, chronologically, Homeland is first...
But you're right. It is unlikely. So perhaps we should let this debate die -- especially since we've been monopolizing the thread with a debate that doesn't directly pertain to the subject.
Thats the main reason I wanted to respond. I meant to say that chronological order is the only reason I see Homeland as being a tiny possibility.
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| Crennen FaerieBane |
Posted - 04 Dec 2005 : 17:39:08
Ok ok... that too, I agree. I was just trying to be nice.
C-Fb |
| Winterfox |
Posted - 04 Dec 2005 : 14:58:02
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Originally posted by CrennenFaerieBane
Ok, I just want to say that Silverfall should be right out - no way to find the right actresses. Unless we hire Mary-Kate and Ashley and dye their hair... nah.
I think finding the right actresses is the least of the problems. :p A distinct lack of cohesive plot is a rather bigger one, and again, there are drow in it. |
| Crennen FaerieBane |
Posted - 04 Dec 2005 : 14:54:33
Ok, I just want to say that Silverfall should be right out - no way to find the right actresses. Unless we hire Mary-Kate and Ashley and dye their hair... nah.
I think a great made-for-TV movie would the The Rage of Dragons series. The dragon in the D&D II Movie wasn't too bad, IMHO.
C-Fb |
| The Sage |
Posted - 04 Dec 2005 : 12:24:40
Indeed. I have to agree...
Let's try to bring this scroll back to proper Realms discussion fellow scribes  .
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| Wooly Rupert |
Posted - 04 Dec 2005 : 07:06:12
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Originally posted by Rory
Well I’m not even sure there would be controversy over Homeland. I could see a movie about subterranean elves being so above or below the head of people like Jesse Jackson that they would fear they would come out looking like Jerry Falwell on the Teletubies. Also the reason why I say controversy in some cases can add to the hype is that there would be millions of people who are completely ignorant to the Forgotten Realms, Dark Elves, or even fantasy novels but if they were to see on TV or read about a debate like ours it might make them interested.
When has being ignorant of something stopped someone from complaining about something? Usually the people who are complaining are the ones who are either misinformed or are deliberately misconstruing things for their own benefits.
And if you tell people there's a movie that insults their race, most of them aren't going to go see it with an open mind. They'll simply see the carefully selected clips that are shown to them by the media, base their opinion off of that, and grab their torches and pitchforks and join the howling mobs.
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Originally posted by Rory
The Iraq war is far more controversial then any of our examples in the entertainment industry and those examples are a much more accurate comparison to what you might get from Homeland. There is no comparison to the civil right movement or the LA riots. The LA riots were about much more then a bad curt decision. This was a pattern of injustice that had been around for hundreds of years and it was made worse because we could all see it on video. The image of King getting beaten was not carefully selected it was randomly selected because someone just so happened to be holding a camera at the time. People had been saying this sort of thing happens for years now here was there proof and still no justice.
You were the one that brought up the Iraq war...
About the LA riots: my comment about the carefully selected shot was dead on. There was a lot more of that video tape. The media simply chose to run with the part of the tape that would get the most reaction. In effect, they caused the whole thing to blow up.
You speak of patterns of injustice... Are you saying that depicting a race as evil would not be considered an injustice? I've been trying to point out that some people choose to be offended at the slightest thing. A recent example I heard about: someone complained about a school festival, because the kids were going to sing a song that mentioned picking cotton. There wasn't any part of the song that implied anything negative about picking cotton, but someone chose to be offended and raise a big stink about it, because, at one point in time, slaves picked cotton. The song said nothing about slaves or slavery, but he still considered it to be incredibly insensitive and racist.
That's the point I've been trying to make: some people seem to want to be offended. It doesn't have to be race; it could be anything. My sister, for example, gets easily offended by anything that could be perceived as being non-Christian. Stuff that most people wouldn't think twice about will send her into a tirade...
Considering that there are people like that, you don't want to play into their hands and give them something that can easily be construed as offensive to one of the nation's largest racial groups.
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Originally posted by Rory
Like I said you are making wayyyy to much out of it. To even be that blowhard on the news or make an argument with any weight as a special interest group there has to be something that says the producers or the author specifically wanted to relate black with evil but that argument has no weight. So there is no racism. Dark Elves have been around before Salvatore. If there was really a problem with Drow it would not take a movie. Books are protested aginst all the time.
You mentioned the Teletubbies, earlier, and Jerry Falwell. That's proof right there that if someone wants to read into something, they can. And they will. Proof is immaterial.
Heck, several years ago, half of the state of Florida was on fire. Why? Because our annual summer dry spell was particularly long and dry. Either Jerry Falwell or Pat Robertson (I don't recall which) said that God was punishing the entire state because of Disney. Because the Magic Kingdom extends benefits to same-sex partners, and because of the annual gathering of people who don't fit into this guy's view of what is right, he said God was punishing the entire state.
People like that don't need proof. If they can misconstrue something, they will. It's already happened countless times. It will undoubtedly happen countless more.
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Originally posted by Rory
With the way Drizzt’s books sell we know that thousands of people of color have already read Homeland.
Indeed. But these are people that choose to read them, and understand the intent. I daresay that the average gamer is both more intelligent and more tolerant than the average non-gamer.
Those thousands aren't the problem. The problem is the millions who wouldn't even think of picking up a fantasy novel.
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Originally posted by Rory
Its all hypothetical because even though I do believe that there will be a FR’s movie I doubt that it will be Homeland I could see Salvatore saying he wants to tell his stories in craniological order.
*blinks* Uh, chronologically, Homeland is first...
But you're right. It is unlikely. So perhaps we should let this debate die -- especially since we've been monopolizing the thread with a debate that doesn't directly pertain to the subject. |
| Rory |
Posted - 04 Dec 2005 : 06:08:37
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
There's an albino special interest group that is seriously unhappy about an albino actor being used to portray the albino monk Silas. They are claiming it's perpetuating a stereotype that all albino people are evil. They're not going after the book, they're going after the movie version of it.
I can't see how the blowback for those other movies could have possibly helped them... "Hey, this movie has things that are offensive to our group. Let's go watch it!"
And my point in mentioning those movies wasn't the reaction, it was the fact that controversy existed. There wasn't a lot of reaction because the so-called offensive material was something you had to read into, and which affected only a small subset of folks in the US, anyway.
Putting an entire race of evil dark-skinned people on the screen doesn't require reading into to be offensive, and it affects a lot more people.
Well I’m not even sure there would be controversy over Homeland. I could see a movie about subterranean elves being so above or below the head of people like Jesse Jackson that they would fear they would come out looking like Jerry Falwell on the Teletubies. Also the reason why I say controversy in some cases can add to the hype is that there would be millions of people who are completely ignorant to the Forgotten Realms, Dark Elves, or even fantasy novels but if they were to see on TV or read about a debate like ours it might make them interested.
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There's a difference between being unhappy with a war, and with charges of racism. The war in Iraq may be a hot button issue, but it's one that draws out relatively few demonstrating protesters.
Charges of racism, on the other hand, will have a much greater effect on the relevant populace. Look at all the things in US history that have happened because of racism... The civil rights movement of the 60's wasn't terribly long ago. Heck, look at the LA riots from a decade or so ago. What motivated them? The (carefully-selected) image of a single person being beaten by cops, and the subsequent court trial. It was perceived as being racially motivated, and things got real bad, real fast.
Race is one of the biggest hot button topics around. You can get away with a lot of stuff, but make it racial, and you've got problems. Do something that could be construed as being against a particular race -- particularly in a country with a large populace of that race, in all walks of life -- and you're just asking for trouble.
The Iraq war is far more controversial then any of our examples in the entertainment industry and those examples are a much more accurate comparison to what you might get from Homeland. There is no comparison to the civil right movement or the LA riots. The LA riots were about much more then a bad curt decision. This was a pattern of injustice that had been around for hundreds of years and it was made worse because we could all see it on video. The image of King getting beaten was not carefully selected it was randomly selected because someone just so happened to be holding a camera at the time. People had been saying this sort of thing happens for years now here was there proof and still no justice.
Like I said you are making wayyyy to much out of it. To even be that blowhard on the news or make an argument with any weight as a special interest group there has to be something that says the producers or the author specifically wanted to relate black with evil but that argument has no weight. So there is no racism. Dark Elves have been around before Salvatore. If there was really a problem with Drow it would not take a movie. Books are protested aginst all the time. With the way Drizzt’s books sell we know that thousands of people of color have already read Homeland.
Its all hypothetical because even though I do believe that there will be a FR’s movie I doubt that it will be Homeland I could see Salvatore saying he wants to tell his stories in craniological order.
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