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| Waldham |
Posted - 28 Oct 2007 : 11:36:06
Hello, I search the name of the giant city in ruins in Giant's Run Mountain.
Where can I find this information ?
Thanks for your future answer. |
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| Jakuta Khan |
Posted - 22 Mar 2012 : 07:37:33
Below find the exact canon about the Giant's run mountains, taken from 2e Lands of Intrigue,Book one, Page 21 and 22:
"About -5350 DR, the last major giant tribe of the South
died in the Fall of Karlyn#146;s Vale, the home plains of many giants
between the Troll and Giant#146;s Run ranges. According to
dwarven oral tradition, the Giant#146;s Run got its name when the
remnants of the giants#146; armies fled to those mountains. The
final battle on those plains was a slaughter of over 5,000 giants
by the dwarves of Shanatar. (This victory was regaled for centuries
in such dwarven songs and tales as #147;The Giant Who Lost
His Head,#148; #147;Clangeddin#146;s Due,#148; #147;The Red Wheat of Karlyn#146;s
Vale,#148; and #147;Why the Giants Hide in Mountains.#147;) The warleader
of the dwarves, #151;Karlyn of House Kuldelver#151; had the
valley battle site named for him. Later, a monstrous monument
was built over the course of a century or two in his likeness to
honor him and his house for their accomplishments. This
monument still survives, though it has been known only as the
Wailing Dwarf (even by dwarves) for the past 700 years." |
| Jakuta Khan |
Posted - 17 Mar 2012 : 09:14:01
Been quiet here a bit, but now my question:
in the l370's, lets say a well trained army of approximately 600 to 800 fighters, including priests, wizards etc ( all mid level, highest lvl 9-10 ) scouts, some humanoid muscle ( approx 60 Bugbear Barbarians ) and necessary supply, do you guys think they could re-conquer the old dwarven city?
And yes, as everybody thought, it is linked to our Humanoid Cmapaign, and the Army wouldbe Hobgoblin. |
| Mumadar Ibn Huzal |
Posted - 14 Nov 2007 : 20:33:45
The link between the Wailing Dwarf and the Giants of Nedeheim (and present day Cairnheim as a survivor realm of sorts) is that the Dwarves of High Shanatar (amongst which Clan Kuldelver of which Kalyn was a scion) battled the Giants in the area and drove them either underground or away to the Dragon's Reach. Sages theorize that these battles form the name of the Mountain Range: Giant's Run Mountains. |
| Steven Schend |
Posted - 14 Nov 2007 : 16:01:04
The Wailing Dwarf is detailed in LANDS OF INTRIGUE. |
| Ergdusch |
Posted - 14 Nov 2007 : 10:02:32
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Originally posted by Surly Dwarf
Pretty sure that tidbit is in Underdark, under Cairnheim, a brief history. The Wailing Dwarf in the Troll Mountains, a mountain carved into the likeness of a dwarf is part of the tale too. Karlyn Kuldelver I believe is who it represents, a Dwarf lord of High Shanatar. I recall he was the dwarf who campaigned against the giants and broke their power, his likeness looks into the east, toward the Giants Run mountains. Gleaned from scattered bits of lore.
I found the passage in the 3.5 Underdark sourcebook, p. 132. However, there is no particular dwarf mountain mentioned and no Karlyn either.
I found a reference to the 'Wailing dwarf Mountain' in Dwarves deep but there was no connection mentioned to Cairnheim or Nedeheim...
Dwarves Deep, p. 10:
'The Wailing Dwarf
On the eastern face of the Troll Mountains (north of Eshpurta, in eastern Amn) is the huge, crumbling stone statue of a helmed dwarf, holding an axe and looking east. Of great antiquity (the time and specifics of its making lost to the memory of the dwarves), this 4,000-foot wonder has been carved from the side of an entire mountain. It contains numberless chambers, staircases, and elevators, all now deadly, the shafts inhabited by spiders and flying things, cloakers and stirges of huge size. The Wailing Dwarf is in fact an entire abandoned dwarven city.
The male dwarf stares east towards Breakback Pass in the Giant's Run Mountains, across Giant's Plain. The massive statue is so carved that when the wind is from the east, gusts enter his ears and the pupil-holes of his eyeballs, and escape from his lips in a deep, eerie moaning - hence the statue's name.
The statue's nickname, 'the battered dwarf', comes from its weather-torn, yet defiant, appearance. Some say that it looks towards a lost dwarven homeland, others that it marked a sentinel-post against orcs or other enemies who lived to the east - perhaps the long-vanished giants for whom the mountains and plain are named.
No dwarves live there today, but for many wanderers traveling to it their journey is a pilgrimage. Such a trek to the Wailing Dwarf is sometimes to be made with dwarven fellows or adventuring companions of other races when a dwarf's apprenticeship is ended. In searching its empty rooms for lost secrets and treasure, they rid them of some of the present monstrous inhabitants. Among these, it is said, are the trolls for which the mountains in which the Dwarf stands in are named.'
Could you possibly reference your other sources...? |
| Surly Dwarf |
Posted - 14 Nov 2007 : 04:07:22
Pretty sure that tidbit is in Underdark, under Cairnheim, a brief history. The Wailing Dwarf in the Troll Mountains, a mountain carved into the likeness of a dwarf is part of the tale too. Karlyn Kuldelver I believe is who it represents, a Dwarf lord of High Shanatar. I recall he was the dwarf who campaigned against the giants and broke their power, his likeness looks into the east, toward the Giants Run mountains. Gleaned from scattered bits of lore. |
| Ergdusch |
Posted - 13 Nov 2007 : 08:19:18
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Originally posted by Surly Dwarf
It was once the giant kingdom of Nedeheim, destroyed by the Dwarves of High Shanatar.
Surely Dwarf, I would be highly interested in which source you gathered that piece of lore?
BTW, a few names of Giant Kingdoms are listed in Dragons of Faerun, p. 7:
Darchar, Grunfesting, Helligheim, the already mentioned Nedeheim, Osteria and Rangfjell |
| Surly Dwarf |
Posted - 13 Nov 2007 : 03:13:03
It was once the giant kingdom of Nedeheim, destroyed by the Dwarves of High Shanatar. |
| Ergdusch |
Posted - 29 Oct 2007 : 11:25:15
Have you checked FRCS, p. 142 and Underdark p. 132? I believe so....... other than that I have not found anything. For names of Giant cities you might want to check the 2nd Ed. sourcebook Giantcraft. There is lots of info in it about giants language. Place names could therefore end with either heim meaning home or kongerike meaning kingdom.
Hope that helps a little. Ergdusch |
| Waldham |
Posted - 29 Oct 2007 : 11:01:50
This described in Forgotten Realms Campaign, these buildings are above the Cairnheim.
Are there a book with examples for the name of a giant city ? |
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