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| Kes_Alanadel |
Posted - 13 Oct 2005 : 15:31:03
Well Met,
I am reading through the Waterdeep Sourcebook (which I enjoy very much, good job Eric ), and there are alot of references to this event throughout the book. Being new to the Realms, I have no clue what it is, or when it occured . I searched the forums, and am in the proccess of going through the scrolls here, but could some one please point me to the correct section, or any other resources where I can find it.
Thanks in advance
~Kes |
| 30 L A T E S T R E P L I E S (Newest First) |
| khorne |
Posted - 17 Oct 2005 : 21:28:59
quote:
Originally posted by Dargoth
Dargoths Top 5 Ways that Halaster Blackcloak will get back at the Twisted rune
1)Reprograms all twisted Runes portals exit on the Positive material plane
2)From now on all Twisted Rune members and leaders have a glowing sign floating over their heads that reads "kill me Im a member of the Twisted Rune" (think Star Elf Art from unapproachable east)
3)Every plan that the Twisted runes leader think up is automatcily mentaly broadcast to every being on Toril
4)Sets all Twisted Ruin Portals so any Mind Flayer that passes through the portal will reappear on the Astral plane specficly in the Throne room of the Githyanki Lich Queen
5)All Twisted Rune Portals now lead to a one way portal that exits on a Comet that is speeding towards Torils sun. The Comet is made out of an Anti Magic material which prevents any one stuck on it from gating, plane jumping or teleporting off it. The only interesting thing on the comet is a letter which reads
"I really Enjoyed my trip to Torils moon. I hope you enjoy your trip to Torils Sun
Signed Halaster Blackcloak"
 Number one and three were the best. |
| khorne |
Posted - 17 Oct 2005 : 21:27:53
quote:
Originally posted by Steven Schend
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
quote:
Originally posted by TwigB
Hmmmm...i'm sure Halaster itches for vengeance, but i doubt he would be able to do anything to the Twisted Ruin, Priamon (i'm guessing he went Demi-lich, judging by his 3ed LoD description..."nothing more than a floating skull etc") and his "allies" would be more than a match for him.
I'm not so sure about that... Look at what it took for them to simply get Halaster out of Undermountain. Halaster is a lot more powerful than most members of the Twisted Rune, he's got the time to play the long game, and he's got the deviousness to strike them from all sorts of unexpected directions.
Also keep this in mind--He doesn't give two figs about the Twisted Rune. The only one he gives a damn about is the Frostrune.
Think of it as someone who's out to kill the Pereghost but doesn't have a problem with the forces of Zhentil Keep. 
Maybe he is only interested in Priamon, but I doubt that will stop him from causing general mayhem for the rest of the rune if he believes that will lead him to Priamon. |
| Kajehase |
Posted - 17 Oct 2005 : 20:52:29
That sounds like a description of quite a few members of the Zhentarim to me, Steven |
| Steven Schend |
Posted - 17 Oct 2005 : 18:32:32
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
quote:
Originally posted by TwigB
Hmmmm...i'm sure Halaster itches for vengeance, but i doubt he would be able to do anything to the Twisted Ruin, Priamon (i'm guessing he went Demi-lich, judging by his 3ed LoD description..."nothing more than a floating skull etc") and his "allies" would be more than a match for him.
I'm not so sure about that... Look at what it took for them to simply get Halaster out of Undermountain. Halaster is a lot more powerful than most members of the Twisted Rune, he's got the time to play the long game, and he's got the deviousness to strike them from all sorts of unexpected directions.
Also keep this in mind--He doesn't give two figs about the Twisted Rune. The only one he gives a damn about is the Frostrune.
Think of it as someone who's out to kill the Pereghost but doesn't have a problem with the forces of Zhentil Keep. |
| Dargoth |
Posted - 17 Oct 2005 : 13:13:38
Dargoths Top 5 Ways that Halaster Blackcloak will get back at the Twisted rune
1)Reprograms all twisted Runes portals exit on the Positive material plane
2)From now on all Twisted Rune members and leaders have a glowing sign floating over their heads that reads "kill me Im a member of the Twisted Rune" (think Star Elf Art from unapproachable east)
3)Every plan that the Twisted runes leader think up is automatcily mentaly broadcast to every being on Toril
4)Sets all Twisted Ruin Portals so any Mind Flayer that passes through the portal will reappear on the Astral plane specficly in the Throne room of the Githyanki Lich Queen
5)All Twisted Rune Portals now lead to a one way portal that exits on a Comet that is speeding towards Torils sun. The Comet is made out of an Anti Magic material which prevents any one stuck on it from gating, plane jumping or teleporting off it. The only interesting thing on the comet is a letter which reads
"I really Enjoyed my trip to Torils moon. I hope you enjoy your trip to Torils Sun
Signed Halaster Blackcloak"
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| Wooly Rupert |
Posted - 17 Oct 2005 : 11:25:51
quote:
Originally posted by TwigB
Hmmmm...i'm sure Halaster itches for vengeance, but i doubt he would be able to do anything to the Twisted Ruin, Priamon (i'm guessing he went Demi-lich, judging by his 3ed LoD description..."nothing more than a floating skull etc") and his "allies" would be more than a match for him.
I'm not so sure about that... Look at what it took for them to simply get Halaster out of Undermountain. Halaster is a lot more powerful than most members of the Twisted Rune, he's got the time to play the long game, and he's got the deviousness to strike them from all sorts of unexpected directions. |
| TwigB |
Posted - 17 Oct 2005 : 08:43:53
Hmmmm...i'm sure Halaster itches for vengeance, but i doubt he would be able to do anything to the Twisted Ruin, Priamon (i'm guessing he went Demi-lich, judging by his 3ed LoD description..."nothing more than a floating skull etc") and his "allies" would be more than a match for him. |
| Kes_Alanadel |
Posted - 16 Oct 2005 : 20:39:51
quote:
Originally posted by warlockco
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
There's always eBay. I've gotten a lot of Realms stuff from there.
Also there is Amazon.com that is where I have gotten several of my older books, like Drizzt Do'Urden's Guide to the Underdark
Also a ggod idea, thanks Warlockco |
| warlockco |
Posted - 16 Oct 2005 : 19:37:13
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
There's always eBay. I've gotten a lot of Realms stuff from there.
Also there is Amazon.com that is where I have gotten several of my older books, like Drizzt Do'Urden's Guide to the Underdark |
| Kes_Alanadel |
Posted - 16 Oct 2005 : 17:54:02
Very true Wooly...though I have never ventured into eBay |
| Wooly Rupert |
Posted - 16 Oct 2005 : 17:47:47
quote:
Originally posted by warlockco
quote:
Originally posted by Kes_Alanadel
Well...I actually prefer to have hardcopy, but realize that I won't always be able to find it. Reading off the monitor tends to give me headaches , and I'm a miser when it comes to printing stuff off, LOL. But I will check out RPGNow and nobleknight as well.
Thanks
Know what you mean, and I agree with you on that.
There's always eBay. I've gotten a lot of Realms stuff from there. |
| warlockco |
Posted - 16 Oct 2005 : 17:09:58
quote:
Originally posted by Kes_Alanadel
Well...I actually prefer to have hardcopy, but realize that I won't always be able to find it. Reading off the monitor tends to give me headaches, and I'm a miser when it comes to printing stuff off, LOL. But I will check out RPGNow and nobleknight as well.
Thanks
Know what you mean, and I agree with you on that. |
| Kes_Alanadel |
Posted - 16 Oct 2005 : 16:41:30
quote:
Originally posted by warlockco
Well if you are looking for more downloads...
RPGNow.com has Ruins of Undermountain HERE for $5US, they also have Ruins of Undermountain II for the same price.
They also have the Dungeon Crawl: Undermountain modules listed, but those are free on the WotC site though.
Well...I actually prefer to have hardcopy, but realize that I won't always be able to find it. Reading off the monitor tends to give me headaches, and I'm a miser when it comes to printing stuff off, LOL. But I will check out RPGNow and nobleknight as well.
Thanks
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| warlockco |
Posted - 16 Oct 2005 : 16:34:51
quote:
Originally posted by Kes_Alanadel
quote:
Originally posted by Kuje
For some background see:
The Undermountain box set.
Villian's Lorebook.
The Stardock adventure.
I downloaded the Stardock adventure, but haven't had time to read it yet . The Villian's Lorebook is on the WotC download pafe as well, I believe....And I'll see if I can come across the Undermoutain set somewhere.
Thanks Kuje
Well if you are looking for more downloads...
RPGNow.com has Ruins of Undermountain HERE for $5US, they also have Ruins of Undermountain II for the same price.
They also have the Dungeon Crawl: Undermountain modules listed, but those are free on the WotC site though. |
| Kes_Alanadel |
Posted - 16 Oct 2005 : 15:44:51
quote:
Originally posted by Kuje
For some background see:
The Undermountain box set.
Villian's Lorebook.
The Stardock adventure.
I downloaded the Stardock adventure, but haven't had time to read it yet . The Villian's Lorebook is on the WotC download pafe as well, I believe....And I'll see if I can come across the Undermoutain set somewhere.
Thanks Kuje |
| Kuje |
Posted - 16 Oct 2005 : 15:38:20
For some background see:
The Undermountain box set.
Villian's Lorebook.
The Stardock adventure. |
| Kes_Alanadel |
Posted - 16 Oct 2005 : 15:13:28
quote:
Originally posted by Steven Schend
That, and the Mad Mage does have the sickest sense of humor that comes into play when he's toying with people.
After all, Halaster's simplest revenge could be to tap into Priamon's teleport network and fill every chamber connected to it with maggots and offal...but that'd just be the warning that he's found him by the similarities of magic to the teleport networks in Undermountain.
Get the picture? It's less the revenge on his foes Khelben fears as the fallout from each evil archmage one-upping the other in "sending messages" to each other.
Steven
Thank you Steven for replying and adding your insight to this .
Now for my next noobie question....I realize that Halaster is an enigma in the Realms, but is there any source that has any background on him?
Right now, we only have 3.xE sourcebooks for FR, and the way some of them are written (not being critical here, just an observation) they take for granted that a person reads the novels, or played 2e as well. Which in turn, leads me to ask silly questions that others know the answers to, because they have read said novels or played 2e.
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Sorry about that....guess I should wake up more before I post
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| khorne |
Posted - 16 Oct 2005 : 14:51:11
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage
quote:
Originally posted by khorne
I see........Please inform me when Halaster decides to take action. When that happens I`ll take a nice long vacation in Sigil. And I`d better sell all my holdings in waterdeep or any other place less than fifty miles from undermountain.......
Hehe... And the Lady of Pain is a better alternative?! 
Compared to Halaster? oh yes. |
| Alaundo |
Posted - 16 Oct 2005 : 09:49:30
quote:
Originally posted by Kuje
quote:
Originally posted by Kes_Alanadel
Thanks Kuje :) I wasn't looking forward to reading through 150+ pages, lol
Yeah. :) I've collected all those replies and Alaundo and I have turned them into HTML's or PDF's, which are stored on this site. :)
Well met
Indeed. For those not aware, these valuable scrolls of Realmslore can be found here. |
| The Sage |
Posted - 16 Oct 2005 : 03:01:54
quote:
Originally posted by khorne
I see........Please inform me when Halaster decides to take action. When that happens I`ll take a nice long vacation in Sigil. And I`d better sell all my holdings in waterdeep or any other place less than fifty miles from undermountain.......
Hehe... And the Lady of Pain is a better alternative?!
quote:
That, and the Mad Mage does have the sickest sense of humor that comes into play when he's toying with people.
There's some sense of justice to that I think... albeit the madness that's sure to be involved. Additionally, Halaster's got the benefit of time and also has access to some of the most terrifying resources of evil anywhere in the Realms.
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| Kuje |
Posted - 16 Oct 2005 : 01:47:08
quote:
Originally posted by Kes_Alanadel
Thanks Kuje :) I wasn't looking forward to reading through 150+ pages, lol
Yeah. :) I've collected all those replies and Alaundo and I have turned them into HTML's or PDF's, which are stored on this site. :) |
| Kes_Alanadel |
Posted - 16 Oct 2005 : 01:27:04
Thanks Kuje :) I wasn't looking forward to reading through 150+ pages, lol |
| Kuje |
Posted - 16 Oct 2005 : 01:20:26
quote:
Originally posted by Kes_Alanadel
Could anyone tell me which year to look in and maybe an approximate page number in Ed's replies? For Steven's as well???
*looks at the immense stack of scrolls*
Your better off to go to my So Saithe Ed files here on Candlekeep. I also included a table of contents for both 2004 and 2005. :)
March, 8, 2004:
Halaster has been around for a LONG time, and for almost all of that time he’s been an enigma. Steven Schend and I pretty well agreed that he was only insane as long as he was in Undermountain, and it seems that ‘the new’ Mystra has freed him from the worst magical effects of its thrall, returning him to sanity. She did NOT make him a Chosen, but instead made a ‘separate peace’ with him, giving him the status of a free-willed agent (from time to time she’ll ask him to do something for her, with new spells or augmented powers as his reward or price, but she will do absolutely nothing to coerce him into service, nor look upon him unfavorably if he refuses). |
| Kes_Alanadel |
Posted - 16 Oct 2005 : 01:13:56
Could anyone tell me which year to look in and maybe an approximate page number in Ed's replies? For Steven's as well???
*looks at the immense stack of scrolls* |
| khorne |
Posted - 15 Oct 2005 : 21:07:49
quote:
Originally posted by Steven Schend
That, and the Mad Mage does have the sickest sense of humor that comes into play when he's toying with people.
After all, Halaster's simplest revenge could be to tap into Priamon's teleport network and fill every chamber connected to it with maggots and offal...but that'd just be the warning that he's found him by the similarities of magic to the teleport networks in Undermountain.
Get the picture? It's less the revenge on his foes Khelben fears as the fallout from each evil archmage one-upping the other in "sending messages" to each other.
Steven
I see........Please inform me when Halaster decides to take action. When that happens I`ll take a nice long vacation in Sigil. And I`d better sell all my holdings in waterdeep or any other place less than fifty miles from undermountain....... |
| Steven Schend |
Posted - 15 Oct 2005 : 18:13:34
That, and the Mad Mage does have the sickest sense of humor that comes into play when he's toying with people.
After all, Halaster's simplest revenge could be to tap into Priamon's teleport network and fill every chamber connected to it with maggots and offal...but that'd just be the warning that he's found him by the similarities of magic to the teleport networks in Undermountain.
Get the picture? It's less the revenge on his foes Khelben fears as the fallout from each evil archmage one-upping the other in "sending messages" to each other.
Steven |
| Wooly Rupert |
Posted - 15 Oct 2005 : 18:10:39
quote:
Originally posted by khorne
quote:
Originally posted by Steven Schend
[br
Steven
Who knows that even Khelben shudders visibly at the thought of Halaster's revenge on the Frostrune.....
Why should Khelben shudder at the thought of Halaster bombing his kidnappers out of existence?
Look at how creative Halaster is with creating traps in Undermountain... Imagine him turning his evil creativity into making someone suffer. And keep in mind that an undead can suffer more than a living person...  |
| Kajehase |
Posted - 15 Oct 2005 : 17:04:56
Because an angry Halaster likely means large tracts of lands turning into smoking craters? |
| khorne |
Posted - 15 Oct 2005 : 14:05:27
quote:
Originally posted by Steven Schend
[br
Steven
Who knows that even Khelben shudders visibly at the thought of Halaster's revenge on the Frostrune.....
Why should Khelben shudder at the thought of Halaster bombing his kidnappers out of existence? |
| warlockco |
Posted - 15 Oct 2005 : 09:40:46
quote:
Originally posted by Kuje
No he is not a Chosen, and Ed has said this a few times. Right now he is just an agent of Mystra that she can call on when she needs something done.
Yep, in fact if I recall correctly he was touched by Shar, and therefore Mystra cannot make him a Chosen, but doesn't mean she can't go into a different agreement |
