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| Wooly Rupert |
Posted - 24 Oct 2008 : 00:51:50
Well, Krash asked for it, so... 
Well met
This being a collective scroll of any questions the Scribes and visitors of Candlekeep wish to put to author and master contributor for all-things-Impiltur, George "Krash" Krashos.
Present your questions herein and check back to see what news may also come forth from the quill of this author. |
| 30 L A T E S T R E P L I E S (Newest First) |
| netlich |
Posted - 10 Feb 2025 : 11:46:09
quote:
Originally posted by George Krashos
This one gives you better idea: https://atlasoficeandfireblog.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/impiltur.png
But, I can’t recall if I mentioned the starting point for the Herald’s Road anywhere. You should understand that little about Impiltur is set in stone. It changes from time to time depending on later stuff that works better.
— George Krashos
Yes I get it! Thanks!
This brought another old question that I had pondered a bit. In your mind how does the Herald's Road cross the trader's bay waters? Are they fordable or is there a bridge?
This is the main "artery" to the Farwater region and also close to shady BayTown so I would expect it on one side to be a stone bridge properly guarded, and maintained. On the other hand at least on my mind, Farwater was more wilderness and frontier land and therefore I could see it not being properly maintained or maybe the land erosion gave some leeway for a place to easily ford the slow moving waters.
In the end I decided that ships needed to pass and it become too complex an issue - so a stone bridge connecting high cliffs was my answer. |
| George Krashos |
Posted - 10 Feb 2025 : 11:25:10
This one gives you better idea: https://atlasoficeandfireblog.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/impiltur.png
But, I can’t recall if I mentioned the starting point for the Herald’s Road anywhere. You should understand that little about Impiltur is set in stone. It changes from time to time depending on later stuff that works better.
— George Krashos |
| netlich |
Posted - 09 Feb 2025 : 12:26:47
quote:
Originally posted by George Krashos
Lots of tantalising and intersting bits of Krashos-lore ;) [sic]
-- George Krashos
Thanks George - one last question for the time being. Would you mind sending me a map of yours even as a screenshot of drfats to understand better? Not sure if you can send an attachment here but I can give you an email to send it if that is ok with you. Obviously that is for personal use in case I have to state it :)
In any case I think I got your descriptions and I understand that my main problem was -as most maps I got do the same- that I have only one main road from Lyrabar to Outentown whereas you talk about the Prince Road and the Royal road. And if I understand corectly the split comes into being from Filur onwards - one to Songhal & Outentown and the other along the Coast to DIlpur and Sarshel. Does that mean for you Filur is coastal with a port? |
| George Krashos |
Posted - 09 Feb 2025 : 11:35:09
quote:
Originally posted by netlich
Oh boy do I??? :)
Ok I don't want to impose; and as this is a campaign running for a while I am not really going to go change many things I have already made.
So here are some things that are currently in my mind:
a) Heleggar and Menedrar Forgecrown. The travelling Royal Herald and the Whitesword Warguntlet. Is there a story behind their family name and are they related in your mind? My PCs had spent some time traveling with Heleggar and Wyaun as they made their way in the Farwater to Illmwatch and north visiting the communities up to Lenchfort. There is a story being built up and as they are now near Tower Tofell while thinking Heleggar murdered or traitor by doppelgangers - I see the potential of some Forgecrown family development there.
They are indeed related. Second cousins. Friendly rivals, if dedicated to different ends.
The Forgecrowns were ennobled by Imphras the Great, having previously been loyal retainers that stood by their family during the Kingless Years. When Imphras claimed the throne, Lorethaunt Forgecrown and his three brothers were strong, vocal supporters of the Heltharns (and some say, more than vocal - behind the scenes), and were rewarded for their loyalty. The Heltharns also wanted to create nobles beholden to them, as a bulwark against the ambitions of the "old guard" nobles who held onto their lands and titles from the previous Elethlim Dynasty (and kept them by swearing loyalty to the new king).
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b) FIlur/Songhal/Torfel and House of Many Tomes placement. Where do you have them on your map? My players now travel the Easting Coast and from Outentown went to Dilpur first for a sidequest and now are in Filur.
That's hard to describe in words. Filur stands at a junction. The Royal Road continues along the coast to Dilpur and Sarshel, and then back north to Outentown. The Prince's Road branches more northeasterly from Filur, to Songhal, and then on to Outentown which is the true gateway to the Uplands and the Farwater. The Herald's Road then goes on from Outentown to Ilmwatch. The Queen's Road travels northwesterly from Outentown to Laviguer, Tower Ithfell etc.
Tower Torfell lies between Filur and Songhal. In terms of strict geography, Songhal priorly sneaks into the "Easting Coast" region, but being more northerly and close to the mountains, is considered to be part of the Uplands.
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c) Did you also deal with Eltab or is only Sonneilon of your making? It seems they will be the main duo for my end game so-to-speak so I do have some questions on them too.
Eltab and Soneillon are dealt with in Champions of Ruin. Neither are my creation.
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d) How many crowns are there in Impiltur's history???? :D
I am slowly feeding intel to the PCs as they are picking up the crumbs and doing research on them. What I got is the Crown of Narfell which was eventually destroyed to be reforged (the physical part at least in 732 DR) into the Crown now in possession of the Impilturian royalty (Sambryl is regent in my 1373 campaign and the hidden prince Imbrar II is set to take it the next year).
But Ndulu apparently reforged it into what I find online with two titles (Moaning Crown of Ndulu / Shadow Crown of Ndulu) but I guess it is the same relic. And finally I got the twin Crowns of Whispers that are now in possession of Soneillon, first meant to solidify the marriage of the ill-fated Princess Aiia to her Cormyrian groom.
thanks!
Lots. From the lost Lion Crown of the Miradors; to the also lost Firecrown of the Durlarven dynasty; to the wedding crowns of Princess Aliia, now recovered from the depths of the Sea of Fallen Stars; to the Winged Crown of King Ellarath, a gift from the elves of Vedrymmel; to the Diadem of Inira, the crown borne by the wife of King Tarth, itself a relic of ancient Jhaamdath.
The Crown of Narfell remains an item of holy magic (as set out in Champions of Valor) while the Moaning Crown of Ndulu remains its shadowy counterpart - and yet to see the light of day in published work.
-- George Krashos
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| Gary Dallison |
Posted - 02 Feb 2025 : 21:00:51
Cutthroat island |
| Steven Schend |
Posted - 02 Feb 2025 : 18:51:43
quote:
Originally posted by Gary Dallison
I love that film
What's its name, though?
All I can recall is that its over-the-top swashbuckling (which I'd normally love to pieces) made my suspension of disbelief buckle all too quickly and I gave up on it before I ever finished it.
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| Gary Dallison |
Posted - 02 Feb 2025 : 18:27:17
I love that film |
| Steven Schend |
Posted - 02 Feb 2025 : 18:16:50
quote:
Originally posted by George Krashos
The fan maps have errors. The best map is in my head. I have an overview map of Impiltur, city maps for Lyrabar, Hlammach, Dilpur, Sarshel and Ilmwatch. Next on the list are regional maps for the Easting Coast, the Uplands and the Farwater.
— George Krashos
Best map in your head?
Why oh why did my brain immediately pop to some awful pirate movie with Geena Davis where the treasure map was tattooed on some guy's scalp?
Not that we'd ever do that with George, mind you…
Steven |
| netlich |
Posted - 28 Jan 2025 : 12:02:41
quote:
Originally posted by George Krashos
If you have any specific questions, feel free.
-- George Krashos
Oh boy do I??? :)
Ok I don't want to impose; and as this is a campaign running for a while I am not really going to go change many things I have already made.
So here are some things that are currently in my mind:
a) Heleggar and Menedrar Forgecrown. The travelling Royal Herald and the Whitesword Warguntlet. Is there a story behind their family name and are they related in your mind? My PCs had spent some time traveling with Heleggar and Wyaun as they made their way in the Farwater to Illmwatch and north visiting the communities up to Lenchfort. There is a story being built up and as they are now near Tower Tofell while thinking Heleggar murdered or traitor by doppelgangers - I see the potential of some Forgecrown family development there.
b) FIlur/Songhal/Torfel and House of Many Tomes placement. Where do you have them on your map? My players now travel the Easting Coast and from Outentown went to Dilpur first for a sidequest and now are in Filur.
c) Did you also deal with Eltab or is only Sonneilon of your making? It seems they will be the main duo for my end game so-to-speak so I do have some questions on them too.
d) How many crowns are there in Impiltur's history???? :D
I am slowly feeding intel to the PCs as they are picking up the crumbs and doing research on them. What I got is the Crown of Narfell which was eventually destroyed to be reforged (the physical part at least in 732 DR) into the Crown now in possession of the Impilturian royalty (Sambryl is regent in my 1373 campaign and the hidden prince Imbrar II is set to take it the next year).
But Ndulu apparently reforged it into what I find online with two titles (Moaning Crown of Ndulu / Shadow Crown of Ndulu) but I guess it is the same relic. And finally I got the twin Crowns of Whispers that are now in possession of Soneillon, first meant to solidify the marriage of the ill-fated Princess Aiia to her Cormyrian groom.
thanks! |
| George Krashos |
Posted - 27 Jan 2025 : 10:43:24
If you have any specific questions, feel free.
-- George Krashos |
| netlich |
Posted - 26 Jan 2025 : 11:19:28
quote:
Originally posted by George Krashos
The fan maps have errors. The best map is in my head. I have an overview map of Impiltur, city maps for Lyrabar, Hlammach, Dilpur, Sarshel and Ilmwatch. Next on the list are regional maps for the Easting Coast, the Uplands and the Farwater.
— George Krashos
Thanks for the answer George!
What is the best way to capture that knowledge then? Flood you with questions? :)
I would love to see your map of Dilpur as my PCs recently left the city after a few sessions there (i ruled it a small city in 1373 DR mainly due to the move of people from Sarshel). I made my own map. They chose Filur over Songhal for their current subquest but their main task will see them visiting Lyrabar and then on to Tsurlagol for the finale of the current Act so to speak. But it pained me on how to place Outentown, Filur, Songhal, Tower Torfell et all on the map.
PS. One of the main antagonists in my campaign is an evil secretive order who is not afraid to utilise non-humans for their activities - they have already sent dopplegangers against the PCs - so I am not against using the dopplegangers to read your mind to ease gleaning the precious to me knowldge ;) |
| George Krashos |
Posted - 26 Jan 2025 : 08:45:44
The fan maps have errors. The best map is in my head. I have an overview map of Impiltur, city maps for Lyrabar, Hlammach, Dilpur, Sarshel and Ilmwatch. Next on the list are regional maps for the Easting Coast, the Uplands and the Farwater.
— George Krashos |
| netlich |
Posted - 23 Jan 2025 : 21:16:14
Wow! Is this thread still alive?!?! I have been running an Impilturian AD&D 2nd edition campaign on and off for 3 years now even though it originally started in 2018. Candlekeep forums and especially the entries here have really helped me kickstart much of my research! A big thank you to all the scribes hard at work!!!!
I should have summoned a guardian daemon to watch for updates I guess!!!! :D
I will still ask one question that has made me shed many a tear! What is wrong with all those maps out there for the poor kingdom of Impiltur? I still keep finding new ones - and reconciling differences! Did the original works here in the forums end somewhere? And is that somhwere posted online? |
| TBeholder |
Posted - 19 Sep 2024 : 18:53:46
quote:
Originally posted by Rhufus
What boggles my mind is why a talented author hasn't taken all of George's details and written a compelling story during this time period. It is filled with so much detail it is just begging to be brought to life.
This one already was answered many times: because the authors are not the ones who choose where, what and who the books will be about, and whether there will be one at all. See also this.
And even if it somehow makes through the preliminary selection, see the fate of that Daggerdale story here and Spellfire here and here. |
| Rhufus |
Posted - 18 Sep 2024 : 20:28:09
quote:
Originally posted by Gary Dallison
Oh my god. I thought I had all your impiltur lore to date and yet here is something over a decade old that I knew nothing about. Now I am worried about what other goodies I may have missed in my reluctance to master the realms L archive before it's destruction.
I sincerely hope you find other such goodies once posted there and share them here to give them an audience once more.
I like the secret name of amaunator and the bit about verraketh, I hope you won't mind if I use them. Inspired lore as always
What boggles my mind is why a talented author hasn't taken all of George's details and written a compelling story during this time period. It is filled with so much detail it is just begging to be brought to life. |
| Rhufus |
Posted - 18 Sep 2024 : 20:03:27
quote:
Originally posted by George Krashos
It was a combination of rushing/lack of preparedness and lack of sufficiently experienced High Mages, with many of the senior ones having joined the fight against the Army of Darkness to save Myth Drannor and perished in that terrible conflict.
-- George Krashos
Is the failed Mythal ritual the location of Alithyn's Copse? Also do you have any additional information about the city the Moonelves lived in inside Gray Forest? |
| George Krashos |
Posted - 23 Aug 2024 : 01:22:37
The title of the ruler of Vedrymmel was "corlereth".
Your ideas re what the Luracaunt "insides" may have looked like seem perfectly fine. Do what suits.
The Mornthael High Mages were either lost in the Weeping War or during the failed mythal ritual that spelled the realm's doom. No trace of any Mornthael selu'kiira is noted, although it is likely that one might be found in the environs of Myth Drannor or the surrounding woodlands. The surviving Mornthaels went to Evereska. They remain magically talented, but few in number. Not enough to be a noble family in that city, even if they could claim such status, which is doubtful. Family tales do however speak of the Imbradiir, a stone golem studded with gems that held spells that could be unleashed by those who knew the correct command words. The Imbradiir was lost when Vedrymmel fell with some believing that it was commanded to flee into the nearby Earthfast Mountains where it lies quiescent to this day, or alternatively, commanded to burrow into the earth where it now "sleeps" beneath the tree roots of the Grey Forest. Yet others claim that it was taken by the demons of the Scaled Horde and now lies in some secret vault in the environs of Impiltur. As with all such things, truth and conjecture are a hazy thing.
-- George Krashos |
| kysus |
Posted - 20 Aug 2024 : 04:16:21
That makes sense seeing that they came from another elven realm they would have had access to alot of resources. With the royal wizard being called Faergaunt, did their leader of the realm have a title as well? Also the Luracaunt is really interesting is there anymore you might have on this relic of Illefarn, like what was the demiplane like that it accessed or how the gem might have worked and if there were other gems similiar to it? I kinda picture the demiplane a small forest citadel built of a giant tree that contained quarters to sleep in and rooms to store supplies and food for those hiding in it, maybe the demiplane being a small forest in twilight perhaps with the citadel in the center.
It seems the Mornthael clan has had a sorta sad fall from grace it would seem, I assume that due to varies wars whittling down their numbers and the coming of the scaled horde that cause the failed high magic ritual kinda sealed their fate. With them being so reduced in number do you see them having any members that have attained highmage status and keeping it secret or would all of their highmages had been lost either from aiding Myth Drannor or being lost in the failed ritual? I wonder if with this clan being so attuned to magic if they had left behind any of that magical legacy behind in the form of selu'kiira or libraries for any of their future generations to learn from?
Also i wanted to thank you for taking the time to reply to my queries, i do appreciate that you take time to give answers to my questions even if the subject is on elves which im sure those kind of questions have been done to death by now lol.
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| George Krashos |
Posted - 17 Aug 2024 : 22:39:03
Vedrymmel was founded by refugees from Rilithar, who had experienced the fact of their capital - Sharandar - become a target for outside forces. They did not make this error again, and so there was no formal capital for this new realm. They did have a main settlement, Halathaerl, which is where external visitors (such as the people of Impiltur) would visit. The ruler would travel from settlement to settlement, setting up a tent pavilion to entertain guests and those who sought his/her wisdom, with the rotation period lessened in the winter months. This moving "capital" was called Coroanlereth by the elves (literally throne of moss, as the reigning ruler would do "business" from a moss covered rock that would be created by magic whenever they decided to stop for a time). This situation was supplemented by an old magic of Illefarn, the Luracaunt, a magical gem that gave access to a demiplane, used as a refuge when Illefarn fell under the dark hegemony of the Vyshaan. The demiplane was used for storage (and refuge as needed - such as for inclement weather) and so allowed the monarch, his family, guards and retainers to "travel light".
The fact that Vedrymmel was founded by refugees from Rilithar meant that it had more High Mages than it otherwise might have. This was due to the Mornthael clan, who had a strong magical tradition, and would routinely provide the High Mage/wizard who acted as the realm's Faergaunt (effectively, the royal wizard). This clan was the true power in the realm, as the position of ruler of Vedrymmel was not a hereditary one, but an office where the elders of the various settlements of the realm all voted to elect a new ruler on the death or resignation of the incumbent.
At its height, factoring in its half-elf population, Vedrymmel would have mustered some 10,000 or so souls, so it was never a big realm.
-- George Krashos |
| kysus |
Posted - 12 Aug 2024 : 04:14:08
George i have another question for you on the elven kingdom of Vedrymmel. Did this kingdom have a capital city per say and what might its name had been? How big of a kingdom population wise would you say it was during its height? I want to think that it was a very small kingdom with a small city as a capital surrounded by villages that moved around alot probably built on older elven ruins from the time of larlotha but with the presence of multiple high mages also makes me think that the realm was bigger than what i would have thought to warrant a number of high mages to reside there. I also could be wrong on both accounts as i dont really know what constitutes a elven realm to have a high mage in resident or not. sorry im starting to ramble on now in my own thoughts. Ive been preparing to start up my campaign again and i eventually want my players to do some exploring of the greyforest and its environments so ive been collecting every bit of lore i can from your articles and posts for this endeavor. |
| George Krashos |
Posted - 06 Jun 2024 : 06:40:45
No reason there wouldn't be surviving members of the family residing in the Cormanthor woodland or the Grey Forest. They weren't wiped out, just are now small in number and no longer a power.
As for Taredd, he passed on to Arvandor three or so centuries after the events of 178 DR.
-- George Krashos |
| kysus |
Posted - 05 Jun 2024 : 20:49:52
Is house Mornthael still around anywhere in faerun or are they an extinct house now? also what ever happened to Taredd Mornthael, as the realms chief mage of that realm he would seem to be pretty interesting to know more of his back story. |
| George Krashos |
Posted - 21 May 2024 : 22:29:54
quote:
Originally posted by kysus
George would you have anymore information on the ruling family or families of the elven realm of Vedrymmell? like who were the ruling families at its height of power and if any of these families are still around or extinct?
I haven't drilled down into the ruling family of Vedrymmel. A leading noble house was that of Mornthael.
After the fall of the realm, the largest and most senior remaining family was that of Aernthraar, and they came to the aid of Imphras the Great in his battle with the hobgoblins. A current clan of moon elves is that of Moonshimmer (Teuserlar in elvish) and they have familial ties with the ruling Heltharn royal family.
-- George Krashos |
| kysus |
Posted - 21 May 2024 : 03:48:49
George would you have anymore information on the ruling family or families of the elven realm of Vedrymmell? like who were the ruling families at its height of power and if any of these families are still around or extinct? |
| George Krashos |
Posted - 26 Aug 2023 : 06:15:32
In my Realms, Thayan is predominately Mulan influenced by Turmic (the Turami). The "purest" reflection of the ancient Raumathari tongue is Rashemi. Elements of Raumathari are also present in the Damaran tongue, which I consider is a polyglot of ancient Chondathan, Nar, and Raumathari.
-- George Krashos |
| sleyvas |
Posted - 24 Aug 2023 : 17:28:46
quote:
Originally posted by George Krashos
The Narfelli words are:
Sarn/sarnar: year/years
Hortha: aspect of an extra-planar being
Drith: demon(s)
Drithdarkar: demonbinders
Urhortha: avatar of a god or actual extra-planar being
(the "hortha" and "urhortha" distinction reflected the 3E use of "aspects")
-- George Krashos
So, just like English, its probably not an exacting science.... but we might take from this that the suffix "ar" is equivalent to the English "s" put at the end of a word to make it plural (so a demonbinder may be a drithdark, and if someone were to speak of "forts" they might say "valar"). Similarly, and this is much less likely, "ur" may be a prefix used to mean "greater" like we use "super" or "fore"... though it may only be a term used in reference to creatures, etc... such that a "greater binding circle" may be referred to as an "urdark ring".
Somewhat similarly... rather than UR... the Raumathari may use AR as a prefix to mean the same thing (drawing this from the term "The Arkhan of Raumathar"). So, lesser leaders in Raumathar might have been Khan.... which is later further degraded into Khahan in the hordelands.
Making some further suppositions (i.e. pulling stuff out my ass).... perhaps some of this Raumathari language carried over into the language of Thay later. We see that the prefix Au is used in that language to mean "lesser" (i.e. you have the Tharchion and the autharchs under him). Similarly, the Khan as a local magistrate over a town may have become a Khazark. |
| George Krashos |
Posted - 24 Aug 2023 : 13:35:36
The Narfelli words are:
Sarn/sarnar: year/years
Hortha: aspect of an extra-planar being
Drith: demon(s)
Drithdarkar: demonbinders
Urhortha: avatar of a god or actual extra-planar being
(the "hortha" and "urhortha" distinction reflected the 3E use of "aspects")
-- George Krashos |
| sleyvas |
Posted - 22 Aug 2023 : 15:55:31
quote:
Originally posted by George Krashos
Not vague at all. You just don’t speak Narfelli.
— George Krashos
Right and we don't have a definition in the article (though there's probably one in this thread if I dig... and I was probably the one that asked and I've forgotten the answer). |
| George Krashos |
Posted - 22 Aug 2023 : 12:59:53
Not vague at all. You just don’t speak Narfelli.
— George Krashos |
| sleyvas |
Posted - 21 Aug 2023 : 18:18:28
quote:
Originally posted by George Krashos
I've only ever done one, new "Dun". No reason there can't be more. Although I would confine "Duns" to citadels. Smaller castles and fortresses should be "Vals" in my book.
-- George Krashos
I like that idea of Narfellians using different beginnings of names for their "forts" versus their "citadels". That brings up an idea in my mind too that perhaps Raumathar would do something similar. Might be worth reviewing that story in GHotR that details the fall of both since I know that it introduced some terms that were vague (hortha, drith, sarnar, Arkhan, etc...) |
