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EltonRobb
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Posted - 13 May 2025 :  20:33:03  Show Profile Send EltonRobb a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
Been reading the Dalelands by Rich Baker. He says Archendale has the largest army in the Dales. I'm wondering if Warmages can be trained in Archendale (it's not as detailed as Shadowdale, though). Thoughts?

Klack of the Soul
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Posted - 13 May 2025 :  22:33:16  Show Profile Send Klack of the Soul a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I don't know much about the Dales. I have read the 3rd edition campaign setting and Volo's guide to the Dales. There didn't seem to be any big reason they couldn't.

Archendale was described as very militaristic, so I think they have the right temperament to accept a military force of mages in their society. They have come into conflict with Sembian and Thayian forces in the past, so I think that gives them a motive to bolster their army with magic users.

The main obstacle I see is the dale's relatively small population, but that depends on how you handle "the Gift" in your world. Homegrown mages might be hard to come by if you follow Ed Greenwood's ratios. Archendale is described as wealthy, so they might be able to recruit foreign mages.
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sleyvas
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Posted - 14 May 2025 :  13:28:46  Show Profile Send sleyvas a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I don't see why not. The "traditional" story on warmages is that it started as an elven tradition, and they're right on the border of the elven court. I wouldn't be surprised to see some elf or half-elf that didn't go to Evermeet living there and training people in the art. I in fact wouldn't say that there's much of anywhere in the realms for the most part that couldn't easily shoehorn in the idea that there's someone there that isn't a traditional wizard and is training warmages. It doesn't need to be a university and could just be warmage and apprentice(s).

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EltonRobb
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Posted - 14 May 2025 :  18:47:06  Show Profile Send EltonRobb a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by sleyvas

I don't see why not. The "traditional" story on warmages is that it started as an elven tradition, and they're right on the border of the elven court. I wouldn't be surprised to see some elf or half-elf that didn't go to Evermeet living there and training people in the art. I in fact wouldn't say that there's much of anywhere in the realms for the most part that couldn't easily shoehorn in the idea that there's someone there that isn't a traditional wizard and is training warmages. It doesn't need to be a university and could just be warmage and apprentice(s).



I also figured that the Warmage base class can replace the War Wizard prestige class. Just realized that now.
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TBeholder
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Posted - 14 May 2025 :  20:26:41  Show Profile Send TBeholder a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Why? They are fairly typical Dales folk.
Per Wizards & Rogues of the Realms, Archendale wizards' benefit is bonus skill (fishing or herbalist), and disadvantage Charisma penalty -2 when dealing with folk from outside their Dale, due to local prideful attitudes and reputation of arrogance (which sticks to the wizards in particular as naturally aloof to some degree).

People never wonder How the world goes round -Helloween
And even I make no pretense Of having more than common sense -R.W.Wood
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