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                | Veldrin LaervainAcolyte
 
 
 
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                      |  Posted - 09 Jan 2008 :  02:11:54           
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           	| Will their be a sequel? I know it'S been a long time since it was print and all... But that's one of my favorite novel ever in the realms. I just keep read it when I have time and nothing new to read. 
 And with the futur death of Mystra and all the change in magic and Shadow magic, what whill apen to them? What will appen to Mateo and Tzigone?
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                      | Destiny is as great as our choice.
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                | HawkinsGreat Reader
 
      
 
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                      |  Posted - 09 Jan 2008 :  02:41:30         
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                      | Why don't you ask Elaine on her scroll? I would be interested in more adventures of Matteo and Tzigone. |  
                      | Errant d20 Designer - My Blog (last updated January 06, 2016)
 
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 The vorpal blade went snicker-snack!
 He left it dead, and with its head
 He went galumphing back. --Lewis Carroll, Through the Looking-Glass
 
 "Mmm, not the darkness," Myrin murmured. "Don't cast it there." --Erik Scott de Bie, Shadowbane
 
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 * Compendium Arcanum Volume 1: Cantrips & Orisons (PFRPG, designer; d20pfsrd.com Publishing)
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 * Martial Arts Guidebook (forthcoming) (PFRPG, designer; Rite Publishing)
 
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                | KairinAcolyte
 
 
 
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                      |  Posted - 09 Jan 2008 :  11:54:24         
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                      | I have the first part, but can't find the rest. It drives me crazy.. Are there any plans of reprinting them? |  
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                | ElaineCunninghamForgotten Realms Author
 
      
 
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                      |  Posted - 09 Jan 2008 :  14:04:56       
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                      | Hi, folks.  Thanks for your interest in Matteo, Tzigone, and Halruaa. 
 I wish I could answer these questions, but I have no idea what plans WotC might have for these books. At present, they are officially OOP. It is possible, I suppose, that they might be reprinted as an omnibus somewhere along the line, but I consider this unlikely. What with 4e coming up, the focus will most likely be on the future, not the past.
 
 If anything develops, I'll be sure to pass along the news.
 
 Best,
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                | NimrielSeeker
 
  
 
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                      |  Posted - 10 Jan 2008 :  18:39:30         
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                      | I'd sell my soul to just get a chanse to read Counselors & Kings. |  
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                | HerklesSeeker
 
  
 
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                      |  Posted - 10 Jan 2008 :  20:24:48         
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                      | I would love for a reprint of them, or if i could get my hands on this series. I have wanted to read it for a long time but sadly it is out of print. |  
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                | Wooly RupertMaster of Mischief
 
  
      
 
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                      |  Posted - 10 Jan 2008 :  20:30:22       
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                      | quote:Originally posted by Nimriél
 
 I'd sell my soul to just get a chanse to read Counselors & Kings.
 
 
 
 Try eBay. I see the books on there on occasion (including an auction that ended yesterday). Many sellers will ship internationally, too. And the extra dollars (or euros, or whatnot) are a better bargain than your soul.
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                | Ayunken-vanzanSenior Scribe
 
    
 
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                      |  Posted - 10 Jan 2008 :  21:27:06         
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                      | Sometimes Amazon has used versions of the trilogy, too. I bought book 2 used on Amazon, since it was already sold out as new version. |  
                      | "What mattered our lives now? When our world had been torn from us? Folk wept, or drank, or stood staring out over the land, wondering what new horror each dawn would bring."
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                      | Edited by - Ayunken-vanzan on 10 Jan 2008  21:27:29
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                | ElaineCunninghamForgotten Realms Author
 
      
 
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                      |  Posted - 10 Jan 2008 :  21:41:00       
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                      | quote:Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
 
 
 quote:Originally posted by Nimriél
 
 I'd sell my soul to just get a chanse to read Counselors & Kings.
 
 
 
 Try eBay. I see the books on there on occasion (including an auction that ended yesterday). Many sellers will ship internationally, too. And the extra dollars (or euros, or whatnot) are a better bargain than your soul.
  
 
 Very true.  I do not recommend soul-selling.
  
 I wish I had extra copies of the trilogy to spare, but I lost most of my author copies of FLOODGATE in--wait for it--a flood.
 
 Okay, it was a SMALL flood. Or more accurately, a leaking hot water heater. But hey--wet is wet.
 
 This story would be better if I had a dog who chewed up my extra copies of the MAGEHOUND.
 
 
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                | NimrielSeeker
 
  
 
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                      |  Posted - 11 Jan 2008 :  12:26:40         
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                      | Yeah, I've searched eBay like a million times but I never seems to find a seller who ship internationally. Same on Amazon. |  
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                | Wooly RupertMaster of Mischief
 
  
      
 
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                      |  Posted - 11 Jan 2008 :  13:56:25       
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                      | quote:Originally posted by Nimriél
 
 Yeah, I've searched eBay like a million times but I never seems to find a seller who ship internationally. Same on Amazon.
 
 
 
 That's odd... I've gotten eBay stuff from Canada, Italy, England, Taiwan, and Australia more than once, and from Japan several times. The stuff from Canada seems to take the longest.
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                | FillowMaster of Realmslore
 
     
 
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                | cacoxxxAcolyte
 
 
 
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                      |  Posted - 11 Sep 2008 :  18:35:58         
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                      | HI, after all that's happened i wonder if there will be a sequel to C&K, or a prequel about the 3 and how the heart of halruaa came to be 
 many thanks
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                | FillowMaster of Realmslore
 
     
 
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                | KairinAcolyte
 
 
 
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                      |  Posted - 11 Sep 2008 :  20:48:27         
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                      | I bought the first book in the series in a store a few years ago. They had one copy of each book in the trilogy. I assumed the rest of them would be there when I had more money. No such luck. I often curse myself for leaving them behind. |  
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                | HawkinsGreat Reader
 
      
 
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                      |  Posted - 11 Sep 2008 :  20:56:03         
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                      | quote:I made a similar mistake (I bought the first when it came out, but didn't try to buy the others til a couple of years later). I was lucky and found a used copy of the second one for not too much, but I have not been able to find the third one for anywhere near or below list price.Originally posted by Kairin
 
 I bought the first book in the series in a store a few years ago. They had one copy of each book in the trilogy. I assumed the rest of them would be there when I had more money. No such luck. I often curse myself for leaving them behind.
 
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                      | Errant d20 Designer - My Blog (last updated January 06, 2016)
 
 One, two! One, two! And through and through
 The vorpal blade went snicker-snack!
 He left it dead, and with its head
 He went galumphing back. --Lewis Carroll, Through the Looking-Glass
 
 "Mmm, not the darkness," Myrin murmured. "Don't cast it there." --Erik Scott de Bie, Shadowbane
 
 * My character sheets  (PFRPG, 3.5, and AE versions; not viewable in Internet Explorer)
 * Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Reference Document  (PFRPG OGL Rules)
 * The Hypertext d20 SRD  (3.5 OGL Rules)
 * 3.5 D&D Archives
 
 My game design work:
 *  Heroes of the Jade Oath (PFRPG, conversion; Rite Publishing)
 * Compendium Arcanum Volume 1: Cantrips & Orisons (PFRPG, designer; d20pfsrd.com Publishing)
 * Compendium Arcanum Volume 2: 1st-Level Spells (PFRPG, designer; d20pfsrd.com Publishing)
 * Martial Arts Guidebook (forthcoming) (PFRPG, designer; Rite Publishing)
 
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                | FillowMaster of Realmslore
 
     
 
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                | The Red WalkerGreat Reader
 
      
 
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                      |  Posted - 12 Sep 2008 :  00:18:59       
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                      | I got lucky enough to get a hardback version of The Magehound on eBay for like 9 bucks, shipping included. The seller had a couple more and I mentioned on another scroll. |  
                      | A little nonsense now and then, relished by the wisest men - Willy Wonka
 
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                | KairinAcolyte
 
 
 
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                      |  Posted - 12 Sep 2008 :  10:32:10         
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                      | I'm a bit hesitant about the shipping rates from ebay (I live in Scandinavia). Not everyone wants to send books outside US either. |  
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                | FillowMaster of Realmslore
 
     
 
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                | FillowMaster of Realmslore
 
     
 
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                | The Red WalkerGreat Reader
 
      
 
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                      |  Posted - 12 Sep 2008 :  21:43:54       
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                      | quote:Looks like you are right.Originally posted by Fillow
 
 
 quote:Originally posted by Fillow
 
 
 quote:I remember about an Elaine's post where she writes about the sequels of our favorite characters of hers.Originally posted by cacoxxx
 
 HI, after all that's happened i wonder if there will be a sequel to C&K, or a prequel about the 3 and how the heart of halruaa came to be
 
 many thanks
  
 
 I do not have time enough to find this post back but I'm afraid of remembering she wrote there would not exist any sequel...
 But I write again that I'm not sure anymore !
 
 EDIT : And welcome to the Keep Cacoxxx.
 
 
 I will add that having a look at the future of Halruaa seems to mean that there wont be Councelors & Kings sequels anymore. Don't you think so ?
 
 
 
 And by the way, Murder in Halruaa is a fun read, grab it if you can!!!(especially in hardcover!)
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                      | A little nonsense now and then, relished by the wisest men - Willy Wonka
 
 "We need men who can dream of things that never were." -
 
 John F. Kennedy, speech in Dublin, Ireland, June 28, 1963
 
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                | HawkinsGreat Reader
 
      
 
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                      |  Posted - 12 Sep 2008 :  23:54:24         
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                      | Ack! 4e is Murder of Halruaa... |  
                      | Errant d20 Designer - My Blog (last updated January 06, 2016)
 
 One, two! One, two! And through and through
 The vorpal blade went snicker-snack!
 He left it dead, and with its head
 He went galumphing back. --Lewis Carroll, Through the Looking-Glass
 
 "Mmm, not the darkness," Myrin murmured. "Don't cast it there." --Erik Scott de Bie, Shadowbane
 
 * My character sheets  (PFRPG, 3.5, and AE versions; not viewable in Internet Explorer)
 * Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Reference Document  (PFRPG OGL Rules)
 * The Hypertext d20 SRD  (3.5 OGL Rules)
 * 3.5 D&D Archives
 
 My game design work:
 *  Heroes of the Jade Oath (PFRPG, conversion; Rite Publishing)
 * Compendium Arcanum Volume 1: Cantrips & Orisons (PFRPG, designer; d20pfsrd.com Publishing)
 * Compendium Arcanum Volume 2: 1st-Level Spells (PFRPG, designer; d20pfsrd.com Publishing)
 * Martial Arts Guidebook (forthcoming) (PFRPG, designer; Rite Publishing)
 
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                | cacoxxxAcolyte
 
 
 
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                      |  Posted - 13 Sep 2008 :  00:17:57         
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                      | Im sorry im not actually a fan or follower of FR, i was just passing by a bookstore and bought the set of C&K, so i dont really know what 4E is, can anyone enlighten me?? 
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                | HawkinsGreat Reader
 
      
 
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                      |  Posted - 13 Sep 2008 :  00:40:50         
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                      | quote:Are you asking about D&D 4th Edition or the Forgotten Realms 4th Edition (the results of the new edition of D&D on the Realms)? They are, to many, two very different things.Originally posted by cacoxxx
 
 Im sorry im not actually a fan or follower of FR, i was just passing by a bookstore and bought the set of C&K, so i dont really know what 4E is, can anyone enlighten me??
 
 thx
 
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                      | Errant d20 Designer - My Blog (last updated January 06, 2016)
 
 One, two! One, two! And through and through
 The vorpal blade went snicker-snack!
 He left it dead, and with its head
 He went galumphing back. --Lewis Carroll, Through the Looking-Glass
 
 "Mmm, not the darkness," Myrin murmured. "Don't cast it there." --Erik Scott de Bie, Shadowbane
 
 * My character sheets  (PFRPG, 3.5, and AE versions; not viewable in Internet Explorer)
 * Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Reference Document  (PFRPG OGL Rules)
 * The Hypertext d20 SRD  (3.5 OGL Rules)
 * 3.5 D&D Archives
 
 My game design work:
 *  Heroes of the Jade Oath (PFRPG, conversion; Rite Publishing)
 * Compendium Arcanum Volume 1: Cantrips & Orisons (PFRPG, designer; d20pfsrd.com Publishing)
 * Compendium Arcanum Volume 2: 1st-Level Spells (PFRPG, designer; d20pfsrd.com Publishing)
 * Martial Arts Guidebook (forthcoming) (PFRPG, designer; Rite Publishing)
 
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                | JimbobxLearned Scribe
 
   
 
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                      |  Posted - 13 Sep 2008 :  09:30:43       
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                      | quote:Originally posted by cacoxxx
 
 Im sorry im not actually a fan or follower of FR, i was just passing by a bookstore and bought the set of C&K, so i dont really know what 4E is, can anyone enlighten me??
 
 thx
 
 
 
 FR or the Forgotten Realms is the shared setting/campaign world (created by Ed Greenwood) for the Dungeons and Dragons Role playing game.
 The Counselors and Kings Trilogy (as well as many other fine novels and short stories) is set in this shared world .
 4e or 4th Edition is the most recent version of both the Dungeons & Dragons game and the FR campaign setting.
 The 4e of the FR setting has introduced many changes. Most significantly (IMO) the introduction of a 100 year Time Leap forward and the destruction of the Land of Halruaa (one of my favorite areas).
 
 I'd say you were pretty lucky to pick up the set in a book store. A second hand full set from Amazon goes for around £50 these days.
 
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                | BARDOBARBAROSSenior Scribe
 
    
 
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                      |  Posted - 13 Sep 2008 :  22:10:50         
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                      | Does anyone knows if any of the 3 books of this trilogy  were published in Hardcover binding by wizards of the coast?? |  
                      | BARDOBARBAROS DOES NOT KILL.
 HE DECAPITATES!!!
 
 
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                | The Red WalkerGreat Reader
 
      
 
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                      |  Posted - 14 Sep 2008 :  00:13:13       
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                      | quote:Yes , I have The Magehound in hardback, not sure if the other two ever were though.Originally posted by BARDOBARBAROS
 
 Does anyone knows if any of the 3 books of this trilogy  were published in Hardcover binding by wizards of the coast??
 
 
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                      | A little nonsense now and then, relished by the wisest men - Willy Wonka
 
 "We need men who can dream of things that never were." -
 
 John F. Kennedy, speech in Dublin, Ireland, June 28, 1963
 
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                | FillowMaster of Realmslore
 
     
 
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                | ElaineCunninghamForgotten Realms Author
 
      
 
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                      |  Posted - 14 Sep 2008 :  13:10:01       
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                      | quote:Originally posted by Fillow
 
 
 quote:Originally posted by The Red Walker
 
 
 quote:Yes , I have The Magehound in hardback, not sure if the other two ever were though.Originally posted by BARDOBARBAROS
 
 Does anyone knows if any of the 3 books of this trilogy  were published in Hardcover binding by wizards of the coast??
 
 
 
 
 I also found the Book I in hardcover but not the second nor the third ones. They simply seem not to exist.
 
 
 
 They don't. WotC published all three books as mass market paperback originals, but the first book was printed in hard cover for the Science Fiction Book Club.  The next two books were not picked up by the book club.
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                | FillowMaster of Realmslore
 
     
 
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