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Aysen
Learned Scribe

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Posted - 02 Mar 2009 :  01:43:29  Show Profile  Visit Aysen's Homepage Send Aysen a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Time for another hint:

The time of gods walking the Realms remains bright in our memory, for we know nothing regarding tales of wild magic, raging dragons, or azure flames.

quote:
Posted by The Red Walker
I thought it was a Deneierian organization


To help the seekers along, it's not Deneiran either


quote:
Posted by the Sage
Actually, I'll note that that reply was directed at the Red Walker's post about Smug Sages.

I already know the answer to your trivia question.


And here I thought I was working in obscure territory
Offhand, did you need any of the hints Sage?
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High

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Posted - 02 Mar 2009 :  03:23:51  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Aysen

And here I thought I was working in obscure territory
Oh, I'd imagine it's obscure enough for those not immediately familiar with what you're referring to. But since this is one of my favourite parts of the Realms, I automatically knew what you were asking about.
quote:
Offhand, did you need any of the hints Sage?
No, not really. As I said above, it's an area I'm plenty familiar with. But they're worthwhile hints nonetheless. Which is why I said I'm surprised that some other scribe hasn't answered this one yet.

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Aysen
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Posted - 03 Mar 2009 :  02:46:49  Show Profile  Visit Aysen's Homepage Send Aysen a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Time for another clue (I wonder what's the record on long-running trivia challenges... )

But first a review of the question and previous hints:

In the Realms our group is few in number, and we keep to ourselves with only the wind and waves to keep us company. For the glory of our god, we labor to fulfill an ancient prophecy. Though it benefits others, it has seeded conflict among us. Where once we were united, today we stand riven in strife. For you see, the prophecy would bring salvation and doom. Who are we, where do we dwell, and briefly describe our labor and conflicts.


1.) Our isle is uncharted on any map existing in the Realms, and we like it that way. Indeed, many folk would name us...Forgotten.

2.) Amidst icy waters, our labor rises like a beacon for sunlit sailors.

3.) The time of gods walking the Realms remains bright in our memory, for we know nothing regarding tales of wild magic, raging dragons, or azure flames.


And the newest clue:

4.) The relics of folly and pride are never far: a vacant throne, a giant tomb, a window to the stars.


What's known:

It's not Nimbral.
They worship neither Oghma, nor Deneir.

Good luck all!

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Aysen
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Posted - 05 Mar 2009 :  01:42:54  Show Profile  Visit Aysen's Homepage Send Aysen a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Next Clue:

As to its location on a map: Eternal ice to the north, spreading sand and creeping ice to the west, wasted grass to the south, rising peaks to the east.

Hopefully, once you find the "where", the rest of the challenge should flow more easily.
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire

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Posted - 05 Mar 2009 :  04:26:39  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Look at this... I don't visit this thread in a long time, and you go and ask a Hordelands question.

The Great Ice Spire of the Ice Sea (Yal Tengri), pg.53, The Horde boxed set.

By the way - according to Ed, the Great Ice Sea connects to the Sea of moving Ice - the polar cap isn't quite as solid as depicted in the FRA.

Edit: Oh... and I have a feeling the tower was completed in 1385 DR.

"I have never in my life learned anything from any man who agreed with me" --- Dudley Field Malone


Edited by - Markustay on 05 Mar 2009 04:31:44
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Brimstone
Great Reader

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-Sneaky. And I was thinking it was around Icewind Dale.

BRIMSTONE

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words unwritten and set them down ere they fade . . . Learn
then, well, the arts of reading, writing, and listening true, and they
will lead you to the greatest art of all: understanding."
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Markustay
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If I'm correct (and I'm fairly sure I am), then my next question will be real easy for some of you - so for you 'loremasters' out there, leave it for the others for a couple of days, at least.

Who else is "Eladar the Dark" known as?

"I have never in my life learned anything from any man who agreed with me" --- Dudley Field Malone


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scererar
Master of Realmslore

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Posted - 05 Mar 2009 :  04:52:08  Show Profile Send scererar a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Markustay

If I'm correct (and I'm fairly sure I am), then my next question will be real easy for some of you - so for you 'loremasters' out there, leave it for the others for a couple of days, at least.

Who else is "Eladar the Dark" known as?



oooh oooh ooooh, as Scererar jumps up and down in the back of the classroom, with his hand raised in the air

I will however, leave the answer for another scribe to give it a go for a bit.
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 05 Mar 2009 :  05:22:07  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Markustay

If I'm correct (and I'm fairly sure I am), then my next question will be real easy for some of you - so for you 'loremasters' out there, leave it for the others for a couple of days, at least.

Who else is "Eladar the Dark" known as?



Well, on Saturday nights he dons a modified girdle of masculinity/femininity, gets dressed up, and hits the town as Eldara the Saucy!

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The Sage
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Posted - 05 Mar 2009 :  06:28:20  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Finally, it's been answered!
quote:
Originally posted by Markustay

Look at this... I don't visit this thread in a long time, and you go and ask a Hordelands question.
Aye. That's why I commented earlier about "no scribes" answering it. I would've thought you'd have jumped on it straight away Markus.

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Aysen
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Posted - 05 Mar 2009 :  07:02:47  Show Profile  Visit Aysen's Homepage Send Aysen a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Markustay

Look at this... I don't visit this thread in a long time, and you go and ask a Hordelands question.

The Great Ice Spire of the Ice Sea (Yal Tengri), pg.53, The Horde boxed set.

By the way - according to Ed, the Great Ice Sea connects to the Sea of moving Ice - the polar cap isn't quite as solid as depicted in the FRA.

Edit: Oh... and I have a feeling the tower was completed in 1385 DR.



Congratulations Markustay! Yes that's the correct spot. I've often thought the Hordelands as not being fleshed out as much, so I looked at The Horde sourcebook and was pleasantly surprised by all the interesting entries. This was one of them. I'll fill in the other details from my question to clear the way for Markustay's challenge:

Who were the laborers? - Gnome cultists of Gond.

What's their task? - Build the Great Ice Spire to fulfill an Imaskari prophecy.

Why the conflict? - A different interpretation of the prophecy says finishing the Spire will doom the island.

And 'cause I hope others will check it out as well, here's the link to the page with the FREE pdf, along with a lot of others, courtesy of WOTC:

http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/dnd/downloads
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Gang Falconhand
Seeker

United Kingdom
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Posted - 05 Mar 2009 :  08:13:20  Show Profile  Visit Gang Falconhand's Homepage Send Gang Falconhand a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Markustay

Who else is "Eladar the Dark" known as?



Elminster, as revealed in Elminster: The Making of a Mage.

"If you have a quality let it define you."
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Knight of the Gate
Senior Scribe

USA
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Posted - 05 Mar 2009 :  09:03:27  Show Profile Send Knight of the Gate a Private Message  Reply with Quote
D'oh... I just missed it. It's OK, though, as I have zero Idae what my question would have been.

How can life be so bountiful, providing such sublime rewards for mediocrity? -Umberto Ecco
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Gang Falconhand
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Posted - 05 Mar 2009 :  16:56:31  Show Profile  Visit Gang Falconhand's Homepage Send Gang Falconhand a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Assuming I'm right:

Who was the wizard who appeared in the centre of Arrabar in 1346DR accompanied by two beholders, and blasted most of that city to ruins before being destroyed by tanar'ri summoned by desperate local mages?

"If you have a quality let it define you."
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire

USA
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Posted - 05 Mar 2009 :  17:34:39  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Gang Falconhand

Elminster, as revealed in Elminster: The Making of a Mage.

Correct - the floor is yours (although I was looking at his Athalanter article in Dragon for that).

@Aysen - It was more then the island, IIRC - "the world would be swallowed by fire" - pretty prophetic, if you ask me.
Anyhow, sorry I didn't provide the complete answer - to be honest, I hadn't read the original question. I read your last hint, and then scrolled up to the hint before that.

And yes indeed, the Hordelands product was par excellance, and if I ever get off my duff and complete the Netbook I'm doing (to update the entire region to 1375), I think more people will find it a facinating place to adventure.

Edit: As I type this response, I note that the last post showing was not really the last post, and Gang Falconhand has already asked his query. We really need to do something about that bit of weirdness.

"I have never in my life learned anything from any man who agreed with me" --- Dudley Field Malone


Edited by - Markustay on 05 Mar 2009 17:36:05
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Aysen
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Posted - 05 Mar 2009 :  19:47:35  Show Profile  Visit Aysen's Homepage Send Aysen a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Markustay

quote:
Originally posted by Gang Falconhand

Elminster, as revealed in Elminster: The Making of a Mage.

Correct - the floor is yours (although I was looking at his Athalanter article in Dragon for that).

@Aysen - It was more then the island, IIRC - "the world would be swallowed by fire" - pretty prophetic, if you ask me.
Anyhow, sorry I didn't provide the complete answer - to be honest, I hadn't read the original question. I read your last hint, and then scrolled up to the hint before that.

And yes indeed, the Hordelands product was par excellance, and if I ever get off my duff and complete the Netbook I'm doing (to update the entire region to 1375), I think more people will find it a facinating place to adventure.

Edit: As I type this response, I note that the last post showing was not really the last post, and Gang Falconhand has already asked his query. We really need to do something about that bit of weirdness.



Markustay, are you one of the contributors to the "Horde: Barbarians of the Endless Waste" article in Dragon Magazine #349? Your comment about updating the region made me think of that article, which brings many points of interest up to 1375 DR. If so, congrats and keep up the good work. If not, then the article should be of definite interest if you haven't already read it.

Re: the weirdness of "Last Post" entries. I've had it happen to me a couple times too. Whenever I get a "script timeout" message from the Candlekeep server, I have to manually refresh the page to see my post. Also, that post never seems to show up in the "Last Post" column of the main forum that shows all the different threads of conversation.
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ranger_of_the_unicorn_run
Learned Scribe

USA
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Posted - 05 Mar 2009 :  20:30:24  Show Profile Send ranger_of_the_unicorn_run a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Aysen


Re: the weirdness of "Last Post" entries. I've had it happen to me a couple times too. Whenever I get a "script timeout" message from the Candlekeep server, I have to manually refresh the page to see my post. Also, that post never seems to show up in the "Last Post" column of the main forum that shows all the different threads of conversation.


I get that too, sometimes, but the other bit of weirdness is that sometimes the last page of a thread doesn't show up on the main listing. ie. if there is a thread of 32 pages, sometimes it will only show 31 pages on the main listing.
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire

USA
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Posted - 05 Mar 2009 :  22:21:22  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Aysen

Markustay, are you one of the contributors to the "Horde: Barbarians of the Endless Waste" article in Dragon Magazine #349? Your comment about updating the region made me think of that article, which brings many points of interest up to 1375 DR. If so, congrats and keep up the good work. If not, then the article should be of definite interest if you haven't already read it.
I wish.

Thats my 'bible', and jumping-off point. It was a damn good start (except for mispelling Yaïmmunahar - the main point of the aricle - incorrectly on the included map), but the Hordlands are so much more then those few locales they updated. I want to update the entire The Horde product, and also do a timeline that better fits that region's history into the rest of the surrounding areas.

I'm also going to be using both of Mark Sehestedt's excellent novels (which both take place there), and a little bit from Dark Vision and also the Desert of Desolation super-module (for background source).

Oh... and Ed's Tsharoon... can't forget Tsharoon...

Sorry Gang - I don't mean to pull atention away from your question (which I would have answered, except I just answered one).

"I have never in my life learned anything from any man who agreed with me" --- Dudley Field Malone


Edited by - Markustay on 08 Mar 2009 21:21:19
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Gang Falconhand
Seeker

United Kingdom
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Posted - 07 Mar 2009 :  18:55:14  Show Profile  Visit Gang Falconhand's Homepage Send Gang Falconhand a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Markustay
Sorry Gang - I don't mean to pull atention away from your question (which I would have answered, except I just answered one).



You are infinitely forgiven. After all, if I make an enemy of you who will I beg to make naked maps?

OK, might be time for a clue...

quote:
Originally posted by Gang Falconhand

Who was the wizard who appeared in the centre of Arrabar in 1346DR accompanied by two beholders, and blasted most of that city to ruins before being destroyed by tanar'ri summoned by desperate local mages?



He was a crazed human mage, regarded as "mind touched by Lady Doom."

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Fillow
Master of Realmslore

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Posted - 08 Mar 2009 :  14:04:50  Show Profile  Visit Fillow's Homepage Send Fillow a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I believe Jaulothan Marlyx did it. He had the Black Book of Beshaba during this event but it disappeared within the incident.

I read that in Prayers from the faithful , p.13.

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Gang Falconhand
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Posted - 08 Mar 2009 :  23:24:19  Show Profile  Visit Gang Falconhand's Homepage Send Gang Falconhand a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Fillow's correct!

NEXT!

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Markustay
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I already asked one recently, so I don't feel I should take this. I have a question ready-to-go, though - if no one else grabs it, I will offer it up later (I'd prefer to wait until I actually answered a question, though, to be fair).

"I have never in my life learned anything from any man who agreed with me" --- Dudley Field Malone

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scererar
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I will take it then, if Fillow is opening the floor to anyone.

This city suddenly collapsed on itself, killing over 7,500 people in less than 10 minutes time.
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Wooly Rupert
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quote:
Originally posted by capnvan

When was the "fifth and final Passing", and what were its results?



A couple of weeks back, on my trip to Orlando. The result was that I finally got out from behind that Volkwagen with its left blinker on.

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Markustay
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quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

A couple of weeks back, on my trip to Orlando. The result was that I finally got out from behind that Volkwagen with its left blinker on.


"I have never in my life learned anything from any man who agreed with me" --- Dudley Field Malone

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George Krashos
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quote:
Originally posted by capnvan

When was the "fifth and final Passing", and what were its results?



The Year of the Unstrung Harp (1371 DR) and it resulted in their being a permanant portal between the Sea of Fallen Stars and the Sea of Corynactis (GHotR, p.151).

Such a shame that plot hook didn't have the follow-up that was intended ...

My question is: Galzeth "Blackcloak" Orlynd of Blackcloak's Fine Pottery in Priapurl is a member of which organisation?

Product citation needed for a correct answer.

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Edited by - George Krashos on 14 Mar 2009 02:28:03
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Wooly Rupert
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quote:
Originally posted by George Krashos

quote:
Originally posted by capnvan

When was the "fifth and final Passing", and what were its results?



The Year of the Unstrung Harp (1371 DR) and it resulted in their being a permanant portal between the Sea of Fallen Stars and the Sea of Corynactis (GHotR, p.151).

Such a shame that plot hook didn't have the follow-up that was intended ...



I like the shalarin, and much of what was in Sea of Fallen Stars... What was the intended follow-up?

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The Sage
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quote:
Originally posted by George Krashos

My question is: Galzeth "Blackcloak" Orlynd of Blackcloak's Fine Pottery in Priapurl is a member of which organisation?

Product citation needed for a correct answer.
Good question! I wouldn't be surprised if one of our more industrious scribes picks up on this right away.

Oh, and given my own love for the Sea of Fallen Stars tome, I'll second the furry hamster's query about the intended follow-up for that plot hook.

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George Krashos
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quote:
Originally posted by The Sage
Oh, and given my own love for the Sea of Fallen Stars tome, I'll second the furry hamster's query about the intended follow-up for that plot hook.



Eric had planned and half fleshed out an adventure submission to DUNGEON that dealt with the Fifth Passage and other stuff ... the magazine's demise put paid to that getting finished and published. I found the skeleton of the adventure on my HD just last night.

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The Sage
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Neat. Any chance you can possibly share some of that info here, either in your scroll or in Eric's?

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