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Randal_Dundragon
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 Posted - 08 Mar 2009 : 21:28:17
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Hey all, long time no see, just thought id pop in and ask a quick question. Finally got the chance to read through forth edition and i cant say im all for it, though one thing did catch my interest. I really liked the way Monsters were set up and i was wondering if anyone had thought about converting the rules and if anyone had thought about how to convert the rules for skill challanges.
Just an Innocent Question :)
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
USA
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Posted - 08 Mar 2009 : 22:02:00
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3e to 4e conversions and vice-versa are a VERY touchy subject ATM (and may not be legal).
I do like the simplified approach to monsters as well - it looks like one of the few things they got right (from a DM's point of view - much easier for me).
Edit: Actually, I see a lot of 3e to 4e conversions going on at the wotC and EnWorld forums, so thats probably fine. It's going the other way - using 4e material and backwards-engineering it for 3e - that is frowned upon. |
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Randal_Dundragon
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Posted - 09 Mar 2009 : 23:24:22
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| hm i was unaware that this was apparently taboo, i have always been under the asumption that you use whatever you can to improve the game and the fun for all. And isnt engineering something wether for 4th or 3.x edition to the other system the same basic principle? although i do appreciate the info and will check enWorld out, the WotC forums tend to be a bit... Hostile? but again thank you |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 10 Mar 2009 : 03:09:26
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It's not at all taboo; we certainly do encourage just about anything to improve a game and/or make it more enjoyable.
The problem is that 4E has rubbed a lot of people the wrong way. Some hate the rules but love the changes to the Realms, some tolerate the rules but hate the changes, some love both, some hate both, and so on and so forth. A sad truth is that hatred of the changes to the setting tends to spill over into hatred of 4E in general.
Since a lot of people hate 4E and/or the changes to the setting, it can be difficult to discuss anything 4E without negative sentiments being expressed. We've gotten better about it than we were, but it's still not ideal.
So as Markus said, it's not taboo, but it is a very touchy subject for a great many people. |
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Kuje
Great Reader
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Posted - 10 Mar 2009 : 03:22:31
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| Shakes head, I don't think Mark was talking about hating the changes, I think he's more worried about how Wizards might legally react due to the GSL and IP and how they effect 3e conversions or vice versa. |
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
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Posted - 10 Mar 2009 : 04:08:55
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Precisely, Kuje.
I try to particiapte in just as many 4e (lore) threads over a WotC as I can in a positive and helpful manner, despite how I feel.
I won't stop voicing my opinion, but I also won't stop helping new fans learn about this most excellent setting of ours.
But Kuje has the right of it - I think its safest to not even discuss how certain 4e mechanics can be applied to 3e games. I see a lot of 3e to 4e going on at Enworld, and some at WotC, and WotC appears fine with that (they are all for people 'moving forward').
I just don't want to violate any rules that we haven't even been informed of yet. |
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Alisttair
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Posted - 10 Mar 2009 : 11:09:30
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| Just merge some skills together in 3E and apply the very same rules for Skill Challenges as they are in 4E and it should work fine. |
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 10 Mar 2009 : 14:56:05
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Originally posted by Kuje
Shakes head, I don't think Mark was talking about hating the changes, I think he's more worried about how Wizards might legally react due to the GSL and IP and how they effect 3e conversions or vice versa.
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A Question about Monsters
