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Aryalómë
Senior Scribe
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 Posted - 15 Mar 2011 : 00:23:31
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I'm sorry if I offended anyone with my comments on my pagans thread yesterday. I realize that my opinions were a bit more venemous than I though at the moment but please do consider the fact that I have quite strong opinions about certain things. I will try to stay my tongue about some things amd cool my opinopns down if they could potentially start a riot. If it's two things I'm not it's a troll or hateful (sometimes ;) ) . So I hope everyone acceptz this apology and remind me if I start to sound snippy, well opinion wise, but anyway, thank you for at least reading this.
Have a great day (or night!)
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ChieftainTwilight
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 15 Mar 2011 : 04:28:02
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neh... is coolio. I know you didn't mean to be mean, we're all a little prejiduced realy. I'll admit, I can be very picky about wich Wiccans I associate with (among other groups and classifications of people).
I can't speak for everyone else, but I'm not angry at you.
though, understand, I'm a Progressive person who feels that sometimes fundamentalists take "tradition" a littletoo far.... I respect the concept of Tradition, but I also recognize that all things need to grow, adapt, evolve and change... including traditions.
sometimes going forward means going backwards, that is true. but standing still never gets anyone anywhere. you must always learn to look to the past and th future, using hindsight, forsight and oversight to make decisions for the present moment.
XD Chaotic Neutral Pride, heh. should of warned ya. |
and a heart can only break so many times
and I've been to hell and back so many times
and I've seen folks walk away so many times
but just like anyone else I gotta stand up by myself
and a heart can only break so many times
a heart can only break so many times
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Kentinal
Great Reader
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Posted - 15 Mar 2011 : 05:00:36
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| Well it appears you did not upset everyone. |
"Small beings can have small wisdom," the dragon said. "And small wise beings are better than small fools. Listen: Wisdom is caring for afterwards."
"Caring for afterwards ...? Ker repeated this without understanding.
"After action, afterwards," the dragon said. "Choose the afterwards first, then the action. Fools choose action first."
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Alystra Illianniis
Great Reader
USA
3750 Posts |
Posted - 21 Mar 2011 : 03:57:34
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| I only just now found this and the other scroll. Will chime in now to say- DAMN! My ears are burning!! Yes, you were quite right- I am indeed Wiccan, as I've noted a time or three as part of discussions on certain esoteric subjects as pertaining to the Realms. That said, I'll be more specific. I actually practice a mix of Celtic Wicca/Shamanism, with some Eastern and Amer-Indian totemic and Taoist elements. I follow tow main patrons- specifically Zeus/Jupiter of Greek/Roman pantheon, and Brigid of the Celtic traditions. I also occasionally call upon Taliesin, Rhiannnon(whom I named my daughter after), and Lugh. Heavy on the Greek and Celtic, obviously, but I've also found some value in animal-totem spirits, fey-folk communion (as "nature-spirits"), Shinto Warrior's Way, and the Buddist Nine-fold Way. |
The Goddess is alive, and magic is afoot.
"Where Science ends, Magic begins" -Spiral, Uncanny X-Men #491
"You idiots! You've captured their STUNT doubles!" -Spaceballs
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ChieftainTwilight
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 21 Mar 2011 : 05:09:19
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| huh. maybe that's why I like you, Aly. Shamanistic and mixed Eastern/Western Philosophies tend to be more agreeable to me. as I myself stated above, I have difficulties seeing eye to eye with most Wiccans. |
and a heart can only break so many times
and I've been to hell and back so many times
and I've seen folks walk away so many times
but just like anyone else I gotta stand up by myself
and a heart can only break so many times
a heart can only break so many times
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Calmar
Acolyte
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Posted - 21 Mar 2011 : 23:28:37
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At first glance such mixing of elements of different cultures appears wierd and chaotic to me. On the other hand, however, the Egyptians and others of the great old cultures of the Mediterranean and Middle East often gladly accepted foreign gods as their own.
I doubt polytheistic deities will be offended when their worshippers also pray to their manifestations, colleagues and counterparts from other parts of the world.  |
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Aryalómë
Senior Scribe
USA
666 Posts |
Posted - 22 Mar 2011 : 04:09:05
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| You see I could never be multicultural/eclectic. I'll keep my personal opinions of Wicca to myself so as not offend you or any others. I'm sure you habe some negative opinions aboutsus 'Trad Witches', Traditional Witches. We are very traditional in the sense of keeping ancient traditions alive and keeping cultures seperate. My main deity, Nicnevin, is a very traditional and culturist goddess, so I wouldn't invoke her if I were you in a ritual where deities of other pantheons are present as it could get ugly. For more information about Traditionalist Witchcraft, go to traditionalwitchcraft.net. I don't know if the forums...... |
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Aryalómë
Senior Scribe
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666 Posts |
Posted - 22 Mar 2011 : 04:09:51
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Aryalómë
Senior Scribe
USA
666 Posts |
Posted - 22 Mar 2011 : 04:25:29
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Oh and be warned-traditional witchcraft can be very dark at times; blood rituals, curses, sacrifces, etc. We do not believe in a three fold law or the Wiccan Rede, we go by our own instincts and intuition. Though it must be said that witches whoare usings their powers for destruction are shunnd and cursed by other witches themselves. We strive for the natural balamce between things, so that is why we generall shun them. Oh, and we tend to call Wiccans bunnies ;)
Alystra, if you decide to get an account on that sit a wiccan . Most of us don't take too kindly to them around our parts. There are somethough, who seem to make it out unscathed. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 22 Mar 2011 : 06:06:30
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I'm not entirely comfortable with that last bit, trad. I don't like the idea of using Candlekeep to comment on how members of other forums are perceived. That could be interpreted as attacking personal opinions, both here and over there.
So, let's try to keep such commentary free from this site, eh? |
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Calmar
Acolyte
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Posted - 22 Mar 2011 : 11:08:08
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Alystra, if you decide to get an account on that sit a wiccan . Most of us don't take too kindly to them around our parts. There are somethough, who seem to make it out unscathed.
Yeah, there are sites on the web where you will likely get flamed. What's the point? |
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Aryalómë
Senior Scribe
USA
666 Posts |
Posted - 23 Mar 2011 : 23:20:19
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Some Wiccans actually take an interest into Trad Witchcraft so they sometimes are treated fairly well. Mot of us don't really like selling the religions (there are many different forms and traditions of it).
Sory Sage, I didn't know I was giving a personal opinion. If it's the traditional witchcraft being dark part, that's true for the most part. But of I get off onto an opinion oriented response, please fel free to remind me of it; sometimes I don't even realize they are opinionated. But I'll domy best to keep them as un-biased as possible. :) |
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Alystra Illianniis
Great Reader
USA
3750 Posts |
Posted - 24 Mar 2011 : 07:28:16
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TW, I'm not entirely sure I understand what you mean by "traditional witchcraft". WHICH tradition. I got my start in "traditional" Gardnerian, then into Cunningham(Scott, not Elaine, lol!) Buckland, Dunwich, and Edaine McCoy and Silver Ravenwolf. There are plenty of others I've studied, too, so as you can see, I have a fairly broad base of "traditions" to go by. Celtic (Irish.Welsh) is my main focus, with the Greek'Roman mythos and traditions heavily mixed in. Personally, I've never had any problems invoking deities of diverse cultures or traditions, to be honest. It's all in how/why you do it, and the individual personas/focus of the deities in question. I chose Zeus for his Father and wisdom aspects, and Brigid for her inspirational and nature/healing sides. That, and between the two I've got my elements covered. Since I'm a Thursday's child Sagittarius, (Fire element is VERY heavy in my personality, for those who can't tell, lol!) having a goddess with fire as part of her domains is a natural for me, and I guess having him was sort of a no-brainer, given my intellectual side and strong sense of fairness. (Which he is supposed to represent.) I don't actually consider myself straight Wiccan, TW, it's just the quick and easy short-hand for me to use when people ask me what my spiritual beliefs are. More people understand Wiccan than Celtic eclectic Shamanism, so it's just easier to tell others that I'm a witch and be done with it, and let the cards fall where they may. Course, I still get plenty of flack about it from mainstream religious folks, and only a few people in my family actually know I am one, but I try not to let it bother me. Oherwise, I tend to be fairly open about it. (As my siggy shows!)
Also, I tend to stay away from sites for specific faiths or even just religious sites in general, because people tend to get too darn fired up on many of them. I practice what I do, adhere to the Rede and the Threefold Law. (Which I've found DOES in fact hold some validity, at least in my experience- I've got a few tales about that, but.... not for here.) Other than that, I try to keep my views open, don't like to get too in depth unless in a more abstract discussion cause most folks just don't understand it well enough to accept the possibilities of such practices, and I just generally like to TRY to be objective about ALL faiths. Though I've been burned a time or three by mainstream faiths. |
The Goddess is alive, and magic is afoot.
"Where Science ends, Magic begins" -Spiral, Uncanny X-Men #491
"You idiots! You've captured their STUNT doubles!" -Spaceballs
Lothir's character background/stats: http://forum.candlekeep.com/pop_profile.asp?mode=display&id=5469
My stories:
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Kentinal
Great Reader
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Posted - 24 Mar 2011 : 08:39:05
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Alystra Traditional Witchcraft predates Gardner. A family tradition handed down though the generations. A few were likely victims of the Witch hunt craze "The burning time."
Gardner did claim he was inducted into a traditional coven, however that claim is disputed as to if a coven or even "Old Dorothy" even existed. He does have better provable connection with High Magic (Crowley) and a Mason organization. There also are strong indications the Gardner was influence by Eastern religions, Buddhism and or Hinduism the karma concept that became the three fold law.
No traditional witch buys into the rules and history Gardner claimed. |
"Small beings can have small wisdom," the dragon said. "And small wise beings are better than small fools. Listen: Wisdom is caring for afterwards."
"Caring for afterwards ...? Ker repeated this without understanding.
"After action, afterwards," the dragon said. "Choose the afterwards first, then the action. Fools choose action first."
"Judgement" copyright 2003 by Elizabeth Moon |
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ChieftainTwilight
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 24 Mar 2011 : 17:37:43
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want to point out, Gardnerian Witchcraft is Wicca. it's a clarification, realy, not a full point. I also want to say, however, that Raven Slverwolf is also Wiccan; Gothic Wiccan to be exact.
heh. funny thing, I didn't choose my Deity Associations, the Gods in question chose me. XD I have actually pressed quite against it for a long time (I never saw the point of invoking Gods or Praying to them when the results of both Spells and Ceremonies were the same when I relied on my own Willpower), so it took me alot of learning.
ironically, it was spending a few years (ages 16 -- 19) going to a local non-denomination christian church youth group an reading the Bible to understand my connection to the Pagan Gods I have since followed.
I was 17 when, first Odin and Loki, and then the Morrigan came into my life. even the Norse Gods though I didn't accept and embrace, other than to accept their existance and Respect them, right away. but Mother (who I refer to the Morrigan as) had come to me in a way that I can honestly say I saw mirrored when learning about Jesus. so that led to me actually getting Baptised eventualy, due to feeling that there wasn't any real difference other than interpretaion... heh. big mistake. but a good learning experience. ^_^
I have eventually come to listen to and Pray to Odin ad Loki (and occaisionally other Norse and Gaelic/Celtic Gods) as well.
I also find certain close connections to select few among Egyptian/Sumerian/Mesopotamian Gods and North Native American Gods/Spirits (Local SPirits, mostly), but tend to be more reserved from Mexican/Mesoamerican and Eastern Gods.
finally, I have to explain that I was raised by a Hindu Stepfather and a Wiccan Mom, so I also have a strong belief and Respect for the Hindi Gods and the God/Goddess.
I just want to remind folks that realy... yes there is a choice that we ourselves make... but the Gods themselves choose us first. even when we are the first to start the relationship, to come to them with prayers or worship... we only make our final choice after we beome secure in it; which usually involves feeling the acceptance, or otherwise coming to see/understad that they have indeed accepted or chosen us. |
and a heart can only break so many times
and I've been to hell and back so many times
and I've seen folks walk away so many times
but just like anyone else I gotta stand up by myself
and a heart can only break so many times
a heart can only break so many times
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Kuje
Great Reader
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7915 Posts |
Posted - 24 Mar 2011 : 18:22:30
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Originally posted by ChieftainTwilight
heh. funny thing, I didn't choose my Deity Associations, the Gods in question chose me. XD I have actually pressed quite against it for a long time (I never saw the point of invoking Gods or Praying to them when the results of both Spells and Ceremonies were the same when I relied on my own Willpower), so it took me alot of learning.
That's it for me to, I got slapped around a few times when my main four deities decided they choose me. :)
And I also agree Alystra, I've never had a problem with mixing different deities from different pantheons. However, that said, my main deities are Egyptian with Eris influencing me a lot due to me being a chaos shaman/pagan who believes in magic as well as science and I have no problem combining science with spirituality.
That said, my four deities get along even though one of them is Greek and the other three are Egyptian. Usually they all gang up to annoy me. LOL. |
For some of us, books are as important as almost anything else on earth. What a miracle it is that out of these small, flat, rigid squares of paper unfolds world after world, worlds that sing to you, comfort and quiet and excite you... Books are full of the things that you don't get in real life - wonderful, lyrical language, for instance, right off the bat. - Anne Lamott, Bird by Bird
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ChieftainTwilight
Learned Scribe
171 Posts |
Posted - 24 Mar 2011 : 18:26:08
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Originally posted by ChieftainTwilight
heh. funny thing, I didn't choose my Deity Associations, the Gods in question chose me. XD I have actually pressed quite against it for a long time (I never saw the point of invoking Gods or Praying to them when the results of both Spells and Ceremonies were the same when I relied on my own Willpower), so it took me alot of learning.
That's it for me to, I got slapped around a few times when my main four deities decided they choose me. :)
And I also agree Alystra, I've never had a problem with mixing different deities from different pantheons. However, that said, my main deities are Egyptian with Eris influencing me a lot due to me being a chaos shaman/pagan who believes in magic as well as science and I have no problem combining science with spirituality.
That said, my four deities get along even though one of them is Greek and the other three are Egyptian. Usually they all gang up to annoy me. LOL.
hey, Chaos Shaman! me too. :D Brothers in Philosophy, aye? |
and a heart can only break so many times
and I've been to hell and back so many times
and I've seen folks walk away so many times
but just like anyone else I gotta stand up by myself
and a heart can only break so many times
a heart can only break so many times
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Kuje
Great Reader
USA
7915 Posts |
Posted - 24 Mar 2011 : 20:23:32
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Originally posted by ChieftainTwilight
heh. funny thing, I didn't choose my Deity Associations, the Gods in question chose me. XD I have actually pressed quite against it for a long time (I never saw the point of invoking Gods or Praying to them when the results of both Spells and Ceremonies were the same when I relied on my own Willpower), so it took me alot of learning.
That's it for me to, I got slapped around a few times when my main four deities decided they choose me. :)
And I also agree Alystra, I've never had a problem with mixing different deities from different pantheons. However, that said, my main deities are Egyptian with Eris influencing me a lot due to me being a chaos shaman/pagan who believes in magic as well as science and I have no problem combining science with spirituality.
That said, my four deities get along even though one of them is Greek and the other three are Egyptian. Usually they all gang up to annoy me. LOL.
hey, Chaos Shaman! me too. :D Brothers in Philosophy, aye?
Indeed, was surprised when I read that you were, in the other thread that got locked. |
For some of us, books are as important as almost anything else on earth. What a miracle it is that out of these small, flat, rigid squares of paper unfolds world after world, worlds that sing to you, comfort and quiet and excite you... Books are full of the things that you don't get in real life - wonderful, lyrical language, for instance, right off the bat. - Anne Lamott, Bird by Bird
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ChieftainTwilight
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 24 Mar 2011 : 21:25:03
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Originally posted by Kuje
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Originally posted by ChieftainTwilight
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Originally posted by Kuje
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Originally posted by ChieftainTwilight
heh. funny thing, I didn't choose my Deity Associations, the Gods in question chose me. XD I have actually pressed quite against it for a long time (I never saw the point of invoking Gods or Praying to them when the results of both Spells and Ceremonies were the same when I relied on my own Willpower), so it took me alot of learning.
That's it for me to, I got slapped around a few times when my main four deities decided they choose me. :)
And I also agree Alystra, I've never had a problem with mixing different deities from different pantheons. However, that said, my main deities are Egyptian with Eris influencing me a lot due to me being a chaos shaman/pagan who believes in magic as well as science and I have no problem combining science with spirituality.
That said, my four deities get along even though one of them is Greek and the other three are Egyptian. Usually they all gang up to annoy me. LOL.
hey, Chaos Shaman! me too. :D Brothers in Philosophy, aye?
Indeed, was surprised when I read that you were, in the other thread that got locked.
heh... it scared away for a few weeks the woman who would later become my Mistress. ^_^ her parents were even less happy about it when they learned...
of course, many difficulties have come up. not least of them being conflict over my former obsession with the Neconomicon. |
and a heart can only break so many times
and I've been to hell and back so many times
and I've seen folks walk away so many times
but just like anyone else I gotta stand up by myself
and a heart can only break so many times
a heart can only break so many times
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Kuje
Great Reader
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Posted - 24 Mar 2011 : 21:56:06
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Originally posted by ChieftainTwilight
heh... it scared away for a few weeks the woman who would later become my Mistress. ^_^ her parents were even less happy about it when they learned...
of course, many difficulties have come up. not least of them being conflict over my former obsession with the Neconomicon.
Mistress as in BDSM mistress or other?
And I haven't read that book in so very long, but I do have a Cthulhu tarot deck. However, I usually don't use it for readings, those readings tend to turn out a bit.... dark and a bit scary. :) |
For some of us, books are as important as almost anything else on earth. What a miracle it is that out of these small, flat, rigid squares of paper unfolds world after world, worlds that sing to you, comfort and quiet and excite you... Books are full of the things that you don't get in real life - wonderful, lyrical language, for instance, right off the bat. - Anne Lamott, Bird by Bird
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ChieftainTwilight
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 24 Mar 2011 : 22:06:00
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| Master/Slave. long story short, she grabbed me up when I was thrown away by my last mistress... and forbade me suicide. adopted my children (who I had no legal right to, because while I was the one who was raped it was by a 15-year-old lolita girl... a reverse-slave if you will), and helped me overcome many of my traumas. |
and a heart can only break so many times
and I've been to hell and back so many times
and I've seen folks walk away so many times
but just like anyone else I gotta stand up by myself
and a heart can only break so many times
a heart can only break so many times
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Aryalómë
Senior Scribe
USA
666 Posts |
Posted - 24 Mar 2011 : 22:36:39
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o.O that's quite the story there.............
Does anyone know who the Seelie Queen is in lore? |
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ChieftainTwilight
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 24 Mar 2011 : 22:40:07
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| the Seelie Queen is not the same person forever. two or three times I believe it was Morgan LeFae though. |
and a heart can only break so many times
and I've been to hell and back so many times
and I've seen folks walk away so many times
but just like anyone else I gotta stand up by myself
and a heart can only break so many times
a heart can only break so many times
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Aryalómë
Senior Scribe
USA
666 Posts |
Posted - 24 Mar 2011 : 23:13:00
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| Hmmm. I'll have to go traditionalwitchcraft.net to look into it some more. Nicnevin hasbeen the queen of the Unseelie court forever though. |
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Alystra Illianniis
Great Reader
USA
3750 Posts |
Posted - 24 Mar 2011 : 23:26:24
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CT- Wow. Never would have guessed at any of that. Sounds- complicated.
Agreed to all- I did not actually choose my gods, either, to be honest. Zeus, as I said, was sort of a natural connection for me, as I was born under his influences (planetary, day of week, birth sign, etc) and also in that interestingly enough, my maiden name translates to "son(daughter) of the storm" from Gaelic. And yes, weather magic is in fact one of my strong suits, go figure! Brigid came about more slowly, mostly from my love of writing, artistic endeavors, and my strong connection to fire and nature. As a goddess of woodlands, healing, fire, and crafts, she is most definitely a strong influence in my life, and one that I am very happy with. I also occasionally call on Bast, as for some reason I have a very strong affinity with cats of all kinds- I've approached feral ones (and even a large cat or two in captivity) whom others could not go near. I've had three familiars in my life so far, all of them cats, and one was when I was a kid, long before I realized she WAS my familiar! The second one, an orange tabby male named Mischief (He named himself, LOL!) was so in tuned with me that he often joined me in my circles, and would watch the candles or sit beside me as I worked. The one I have now is a black female I named Demona (after the character from Gargoyles, lol!) and she is also quite helpful.
Please don't take it as an offense, but I'm hesitant to consider anyone who calls themselves traditional predating Gardner as strictly verifiable, as up until his time and that of the Farrars, "true" traditional witchcraft had gone so far underground that it might as well have been lost. By reviving those old ways, however, those folks have allowed many others, myself included, to learn the ancient "pagan" ways of our long-gone ancestors. I'm not saying that one can't be, but a family tradition that is unbroken is really hard to prove in this day and age, especially given the attitudes toward it over the last three or four centuries. It's just not very common at all to find one, Especially here in the states, given that most families were Puritan, Catholic, or Protestant when coming over, with very few actual witches, most of whom were among the still slightly pagan Gypsies. (FWIW, I've supposedly got some Gypsy blood, from the "black dutch" of Pennsylvania, along with some Amer-Indian, to go along with the Scottish, Irish, French, and German. Which I guess makes me about as mixed-up as you can get....) |
The Goddess is alive, and magic is afoot.
"Where Science ends, Magic begins" -Spiral, Uncanny X-Men #491
"You idiots! You've captured their STUNT doubles!" -Spaceballs
Lothir's character background/stats: http://forum.candlekeep.com/pop_profile.asp?mode=display&id=5469
My stories:
http://z3.invisionfree.com/Mickeys_Comic_Tavern/index.php?showforum=188
Lothir, courtesy of Sylinde (Deviant Art)/Luaxena (Chosen of Eilistraee)
http://sylinde.deviantart.com/#/d2z6e4u |
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ChieftainTwilight
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 24 Mar 2011 : 23:42:13
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honestly, all the more reason for me to feel a certain level of discredit towards Wicca. reading about it in any source has been like reading through a forum full of self-proclaimed messiahs. all of the histories and biographies are essentially long claims of family traditions passed down from generation to generation, eventually all meeting up with one or more of a certain few famous/infamous figures in history during the "Magical Rennaisance" era.
that, and a buttload of innacurate information calling itself wiccan or pagan that gets mass-produced and sold to impressionable youths of today's generation... >.> |
and a heart can only break so many times
and I've been to hell and back so many times
and I've seen folks walk away so many times
but just like anyone else I gotta stand up by myself
and a heart can only break so many times
a heart can only break so many times
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ChieftainTwilight
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 24 Mar 2011 : 23:43:26
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quote:
Originally posted by ChieftainTwilight
honestly, all the more reason for me to feel a certain level of discredit towards Wicca. reading about it in any source has been like reading through a forum full of self-proclaimed messiahs. all of the histories and biographies are essentially long unproven claims of family traditions passed down from generation to generation, eventually all meeting up with one or more of a certain few famous/infamous figures in history during the "Magical Rennaisance" era, before subseuqently branching off in various directions again.
that, and a buttload of innacurate information calling itself wiccan or pagan that gets mass-produced and sold to impressionable youths of today's generation... >.>
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and a heart can only break so many times
and I've been to hell and back so many times
and I've seen folks walk away so many times
but just like anyone else I gotta stand up by myself
and a heart can only break so many times
a heart can only break so many times
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Aryalómë
Senior Scribe
USA
666 Posts |
Posted - 25 Mar 2011 : 00:03:39
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| I don't follow a family tradition. I've been taught greatly by the people from tradititionalwitchraft.net. We generally follow what was rarely written books, folklore, thefe are se eral written accounts of witchraft i the British Isles that have been wriiten down and we draw on those sevelly. We aso go by what actual witches who have kept th old ways alive in the form of covens, passing down infrmation, etc. We aretrying tonbe ause so much of it was lost. Another great site is cor noshtraditioanlwitchcraft, which has. Cornwall, England. |
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ChieftainTwilight
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 25 Mar 2011 : 00:13:13
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| I am seriously getting irritated at not being able to read your posts, Tradwitch. |
and a heart can only break so many times
and I've been to hell and back so many times
and I've seen folks walk away so many times
but just like anyone else I gotta stand up by myself
and a heart can only break so many times
a heart can only break so many times
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Aryalómë
Senior Scribe
USA
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Posted - 25 Mar 2011 : 00:23:36
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Aryalómë
Senior Scribe
USA
666 Posts |
Posted - 25 Mar 2011 : 00:24:21
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| Ohhh. I hate this nook!!!!!!!!!! |
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Sorry if anyone was offended
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