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Kilvan
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Posted - 14 Dec 2011 :  20:12:36  Show Profile Send Kilvan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
A Cavalier is a warrior kit presented in the AD&D sourcebook The Complete fighter's handbook. There is a paladin kit called Chevalier, which is somewhat similar in fluff.

Edited by - Kilvan on 14 Dec 2011 20:13:23
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Ayrik
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Posted - 14 Dec 2011 :  20:43:09  Show Profile Send Ayrik a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Looked it up: Azoun IV was a Cavalier in 1E. Post-ToT 2E he (or his player) would've had to choose whether he would be treated as a Paladin or as a Cavalier-flavoured fighter (a variety of Cavalier-type kit options became available shortly after these conversion rules were written).

Either way, back to topic, I'm not of the opinion that Azoun was a great Paladin who did great things in the Realms.

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The Sage
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Azoun IV was a cavalier, which is somewhere between a paladin and fighter. Armored mounted warrior-type, but no divine abilities.

Kind of like Gareth Dragonsbane, in the old "Bloodstone" modules. He was stat'd as a Paladin (Cavalier), if I recall correctly.




As I recall, Cavalier was one of the character classes from 1E -- I believe it was in the original Unearthed Arcana.
I'll have to look over the modules, again, for that. I'm not sure of how Gareth was described... class-wise.
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Azoun IV was a cavalier, but when that class was removed with 2E, became a simple Fighter.
It wasn't a simple transition, as I recall. Wasn't there a DRAGON article that tried to maintain the spirit of the cavalier for a time into 2e? [I'll probably have to check the DragonDex for that one.]

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Ayrik
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I was going from FRA, since I consider it the "first" 2E sourcebook (after the "core" PHB, DMG, and MC books). A generic Cavalier kit was presented in PHBR1: The Complete Fighter's Handbook, published later the same year 2E/ToT was introduced. Numerous variations on Cavalier class/kit were published in subsequent years, it was often possible to play a Paladin class with a Cavalier kit.

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Posted - 15 Dec 2011 :  21:46:41  Show Profile  Visit boards's Homepage Send boards a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'm a fan of Peirgeron Paladinson as a good Paladin, but my all time favourite person as a Paladin comes from outside of the FR, with Michael the Fist of God from the Harry Dresden novels. He is a genuinely good person who tries to redeem badies but if they don't want it then it is smiting time.
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Alystra Illianniis
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There are some good questions being posed here. I have a half-dragon(Moon elf) paladin of my own whose ideas of justice and what is "good" or "right" can be very distinctly biased regarding race. Specifically, he has a severe dislike (and frequently voices his mistrust of) his twin sister's choice of mate- a drow bard. (Yes, it is THAT bard of mine...) Much of his clearly prejudiced feelings stem from not only the history of drow in general, but the circumstances under which the siblings met him, as well as that particular drow's family reputation. the paladin was willing to let him be thrown in prison on some very iffy charges, just because he was getting to close to sis, and because he believes drow are all evil. Never mind that the one in questiion had already saved both siblings' lives- and his sister's TWICE.

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