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Brian R. James
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Posted - 07 Feb 2012 :  05:46:39  Show Profile  Visit Brian R. James's Homepage Send Brian R. James a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
Fellow scribes and lorelords. I'm looking to compile a list of all known Thieves' Guilds in Forgotten Realms lore. This research is for a DDI article I'm penning with my brother and the deadline is short.

If you come across an obscure bit of realmslore about a Thieves' Guild please post the name here and provide a reference to where you found it (be it scourcebook, novel, comic, computer game, etc...)

I'll start the list with what I have so far:


  • Coinspinners (Luskan)

  • Dead Rats (Luskan)

  • Fire Knives (Cormyr/Westgate)

  • House Basadoni (Calimport)

  • Kraken Society (Sword Coast)

  • Night Knives (Selgaunt)

  • Night Masks (Dragon Coast)

  • Nine Golden Swords (Telflamm/Westgate)

  • Rundeen (Shining Sea)

  • Salt Creepers (Buldamar)

  • Shadow Thieves (Amn)

  • Shadowmasters (Telflamm)

  • Stone Bears (Velprintalar)

  • The Grey (Phlan)

  • Xanathar's Thieves' Guild (Skullport)


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Straight off the top of my own brief listing [and that haven't otherwise been mentioned], I've got:-

- Skeletal Fingers [Tethyr and Amn -- Lands of Intrigue]
- Tightpurse [Heliogabalus -- Promise of the Witch-King]
- Red Hand [Neverwinter -- Pages from the Mages]
- Shadowcloaks [Calaunt -- Pirates of the Fallen Stars]
- Astorians [Teziir -- Pirates of the Fallen Stars]

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Arivia
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Don't forget the unnamed Thieves' Guild in Baldur's Gate, detailed in both the game Baldur's Gate and several other sources as noted in this scroll: http://forum.candlekeep.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=10602
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Posted - 07 Feb 2012 :  09:07:51  Show Profile  Visit Joran Nobleheart's Homepage Send Joran Nobleheart a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Are there any, by chance, known of in Suzail?

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The Four Ravens (Ravens Bluff), though they were dispersed for a time.

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Posted - 07 Feb 2012 :  16:11:12  Show Profile  Visit Faraer's Homepage Send Faraer a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Rogues of Tilverton (Tilverton) [FRC2 Curse of the Azure Bonds; Forgotten Realms Adventures; Volo's Guide to Cormyr)
Golden Hands of Vergadain [Demihuman Deities]
Thieves' Guild (Bezantur) [Spellbound]
Broken Ring (Sword Coast) [FA1 Halls of the High King p. 11]
Purple Masks (Elversult) [Forgotten Realms Adventures; Cult of the Dragon p. 34]
Rogue's Guild of Hillsfar [Forgotten Realms Adventures]
Night Skulls (Iriaebor) [Forgotten Realms Adventures]
Rot Grubs (Ordulin) [Forgotten Realms Adventures]
"Grayclaws" (Tantras) [Forgotten Realms Adventures; City of Ravens Bluff p. 156]

None known in Suzail.

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There is an obvious whole ton in Calimport but, I'm not sure there are any specifically named other than the one formerlly run by Pasha Basadoni/Pasha Pook/Regis. Though I can't for the life of me recall what, if any, name was exactly given to this guild.


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EDIT: Sorry Brian, my eyes skipped over that line when reading your OP. Sorry for the double-tap.

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Brian R. James
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Posted - 07 Feb 2012 :  17:05:17  Show Profile  Visit Brian R. James's Homepage Send Brian R. James a Private Message  Reply with Quote
This is fantastic, and please keep them coming! Thanks folks.

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Brian R. James
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Posted - 07 Feb 2012 :  17:07:05  Show Profile  Visit Brian R. James's Homepage Send Brian R. James a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wolfhound75

There is an obvious whole ton in Calimport but, I'm not sure there are any specifically named other than the one formerlly run by Pasha Basadoni/Pasha Pook/Regis. Though I can't for the life of me recall what, if any, name was exactly given to this guild.
From what I've been able to discern, Pasha Pook's guild is simply known as House Basadoni.

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Brian R. James
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Posted - 07 Feb 2012 :  17:21:09  Show Profile  Visit Brian R. James's Homepage Send Brian R. James a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Arivia

Don't forget the unnamed Thieves' Guild in Baldur's Gate, detailed in both the game Baldur's Gate and several other sources as noted in this scroll: http://forum.candlekeep.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=10602

Hmmm. I'm inclined to give them a name if an official one cannot be found. Ravenscar, being the name of the guild leader, may be appropriate. It's certainly evocative.

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Brian R. James
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Posted - 07 Feb 2012 :  17:22:12  Show Profile  Visit Brian R. James's Homepage Send Brian R. James a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Brian R. James
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Posted - 07 Feb 2012 :  17:26:41  Show Profile  Visit Brian R. James's Homepage Send Brian R. James a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Joran Nobleheart

Are there any, by chance, known of in Suzail?

The Fire Knives were prevalent in Cormyr years ago, but were driven out. As far as I'm aware Suzail remains free of an organized thieves' guild to this day.

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Posted - 07 Feb 2012 :  17:29:51  Show Profile  Visit Faraer's Homepage Send Faraer a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The original FRA reference capitalizes the Guild of Baldur's Gate: 'The Guild of thieves, assassins, smugglers, and fences . . . The Guild ruthlessly crushes rivals'. That indicates to me that that's its name (though not necessarily its only name), and it's probably been there a long time rather than a recent organization named for its current leader.

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Posted - 07 Feb 2012 :  18:04:39  Show Profile  Visit Hawkins's Homepage Send Hawkins a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Maybe someone other than myself can more quickly remember the name of the thieves' guild that Cale and Riven were a originally a part of in Selgaunt in Shadow's Witness. I think that Erik had some that he created in Waterdeep circa 1479 for Downshadow as well.

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The other day I was reading the City of Splendors sourcebook and came across the Plague Rats, "an elite organization of thieves, assassins and wererats...(pp. 57)"

Also mentioned there are the Unseen, Agents of the Eye, the Black Boar and Bull Elk tribes and the Shadow Thieves. I would even consider adding the Red Sashes to the list.

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Posted - 07 Feb 2012 :  21:29:50  Show Profile  Visit Lirdolin's Homepage Send Lirdolin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I don't know if they qualify as a thiefs guild but to mention them as they are connected to the Xanathars Thieves Guild:
The Sightless (4e Waterdeep)
criminals, who operate from Downshadow, many are spellscarred, lead by Avaereene a powerful lich and crime lord (originally appeared in the 3.5 Waterdeep sourcebook as a member of the Xanathar's guild) Hides below the illusion of a youthful, well rounded women, with a heart-shaped face surrounded by vibrant gold curls. (DS 183+)
Before Avarenee became a lich, she was in command of the Xanathar’s kidnapping agents known as ‘the Hand’. She was already a skilled mage and slaver of the Xanathar’s Thieves Guild. CoSp/WiW 89

Blackstaff Tower (pg.256) also mentions the 'Shadow Thieves' as a problem for Waterdeeps order.
But it's a dream sequenze and also metions organisations like 'Dark Brotherhood' and 'Cabale Arcane' (which i believe to be magical splinter organisations of the Arcane Brotherhood from Luskan).

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Posted - 08 Feb 2012 :  01:58:38  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
A few others that I haven't already seen referenced:-

- Thieves' Guild [Heldapan -- The Shining South]
- Gray Ghosts [Gracklstugh -- Drizzt Do'Urden's Guide to the Underdark]
- Severed Claw [Sloopdilmonpolop -- Drizzt Do'Urden's Guide to the Underdark]
- Thieves' Guild [Ormpetarr -- The Vilhon Reach]
- The Hand of Yartar [Yartar -- Cult of the Dragon]

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What about the Citadel of Assassins? Blood Stone Lands.

Also The Purple Halls

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The Dark Dagger [main extent: Skullport, Turmish, Vilhon Reach, lesser extent: Amn, Calimsham, expanding into: coastal cities all around Sea of Fallen Stars -- Demihuman Deities 2E, Skullport 2E]

Drow organization of Vhaeraun worshippers that like to take control of local thieving guilds and fellowships behind the scenes and establish hidden temples to Vhaeraun.
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Good one, Eilserus. How could I have forgotten?!

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quote:
Originally posted by The Sage
- The Hand of Yartar [Yartar -- Cult of the Dragon]

It's also mentioned in other sources, like The North and Cloak & Dagger. In this last reference, it is revealed that the guildmistress of the Hand is actually a doppleganger, and a member of the Kraken Society.

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And now that I remember, the Tightpurse reference I made above also, originally, comes from The Bloodstone Lands.

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quote:
Originally posted by Brian R. James

Fellow scribes and lorelords. I'm looking to compile a list of all known Thieves' Guilds in Forgotten Realms lore. This research is for a DDI article I'm penning with my brother and the deadline is short.

If you come across an obscure bit of realmslore about a Thieves' Guild please post the name here and provide a reference to where you found it (be it scourcebook, novel, comic, computer game, etc...)

I'll start the list with what I have so far:
  • The Grey (Phlan)




  • Did they use to have a bandit leader by the name of Norris? Also, Phlan had another thieves guild who showed loyalty by cutting off their own ear. Anyone recall the name of that group?

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    would the Iron Throne be considered a thieves guild??

    and what of the various pirate fleets throughout faerun??


    the citadel of assassins was listed in one of the Jarlaxle and entreri novels too....

    why is being a wizard like being a drow? both are likely to find a dagger in the back from a rival or one looking to further his own goals, fame and power


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    There's one in Thay. I forgot the name, though. And I'm away from my library. Anyone who read The Haunted Lands can probably cite it. It's the guild which that thief that reported to Dmitra was a member of. Wasn't the guild's name mentioned?

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