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Fellfire
Master of Realmslore
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 Posted - 07 Feb 2012 : 21:09:55
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Originally posted by Varyar at rpg.net
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Future Fate: Velesia's fate was the most tragic of all the lost Seldarine. During the Crown Wars, Velesia was greatly swayed by the prayers of his faithful in Aryvandaar, and began his long fall from grace. He at first attempted to use his church to moderate the excesses of the Aryvandaarans, then took to pleading their case to his brethren - would not the elves of Faerûn be better served under one crown and one law? Over the centuries and millennia, Velesia more and more openly sided with Aryvandaar, justifying all their acts and proclaiming the righteousness of their cause. By the time the Fifth Crown War began, Velesia was an exile from the Seldarine in all but name. He had also dwindled to the status of a demipower, rejected by most sun elves and competing with devil lords and other fell entities for the worship of the lords of the Vyshaantar Empire. Velesia, now dwelling on Faerûn, sided with Vyshaantar and, in a grotesque betrayal, raised his mighty blade against the other Seldarine. In the end, despite his reckless bravery, Velesia was swiftly defeated in single battle by an avatar of Corellon Larethian. His sword was shattered and his body is said to lie where it fell, somewhere beneath the Serpent Hills. Some glimmer of divine energy perhaps clings to it, although nearly all knowledge of Velesia was destroyed in the wake of the Crown Wars. Not even the Eldreth Veluuthra have more than an inkling of Velesia's existence, although they would search ceaselessly for his remains if they did discover the truth.
Velesia Reborn: If by some chance the Eldreth Veluuthra learned of Velesia's final resting place, it is quite likely they would find a way to revive him. This would strengthen their group immeasurably, and also invigorate Velesia himself. Were he to be reborn as a power, it would most likely be as follows, although nothing is certain.
If I wanted to use the Velesia Reborn hook, how would I go about it? What would Velesia's body beneath the Serpent Hills look like? Would it still be there after all these centuries? Or would it dissolve back into the Astral? Would it be better to have them find the shards of the fallen god's sword? I found this post which has some good ideas. Any and all input would be appreciated as I have no idea where to begin. I intend to have the Eldreth Veluuthra attempt to resurrect this fallen power and my PC's thwart them, but I may play a bit of a role reversal here and instead have the players actually play the Eldreth Veluuthra agents.
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Misanthorpe
Love is a lie. Only hate endures. Light is blinding. Only in darkness do we see clearly.
"Oh, you think darkness is your ally? You merely adopted the dark. I was born in it, molded by it. I didn't see the light until I was already a man, by then it was nothing to me but.. blinding. The shadows betray you because they belong to me." - Bane The Dark Knight Rises
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Edited by - Fellfire on 07 Feb 2012 23:39:51
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varyar
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 07 Feb 2012 : 23:47:58
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Hey, cool, someone dug up my old Lost Seldarine ::preens::
Back on topic - if memory serves, Karsus' body was described as enlarged and petrified after his little scheme failed. A demipower like Velesia was would probably be twice the size of a normal Elf, anyway, or even larger if he drew on his followers like Torm did when he fought Bane. So you want something large and impressive - maybe a thirty foot tall corpse of pure marble? (Or something similar, something more beautiful than simple rock)
As for how to do it, if you're running a 3E game, this seems like the sort of thing epic magic is made for. I'm picturing a sudden infusion of massive amounts of magical energy into the body, enough to give it just enough of a spark of life for Velesia's consciousness to stir and awaken. Alternatively, do what Jeff Grubb and Kate Novak did with Moander, and have the PCs fulfill the apparently impossible or contradictory terms of an obscure prophecy.
This seems like only half the battle, btw. Velesia is going to need worshippers if he's not going to dwindle away again, especially since the rest of the Seldarine probably won't be thrilled at his return. The Eldreth Veluuthra will love him, though, so there's your church right there, really. |
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Leira the Mistshadow:
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Fellfire
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 08 Feb 2012 : 00:05:28
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Well met, varyar. I had no idea you were among us here. A pleasure. I discovered your Lost Seldarine some time ago, and have been toying with this idea for a while. I sort of pictured Velesia's remains as a gigantic elven statue. I am currently reading through Dead Gods for some ideas. I thought I might somehow use the shards of Silithian as a focus for his revival. Though I am not opposed to a journey to the Astral to find his corpse (is that where dead demi-gods go?) and perform some ritual there. I will know more when I finish the module. I am playing a 3e game, early 1300's, pre-ToT. I think having a base of worshippers like the EV will provide enough faith to revivify him and I think that there are many among the elven elite who would be open (at least secretly) to his worship as well. I thank Tymora that you happened upon this scroll. Anything further you or anyone else can provide would be most welcome.
Assuming that he can be brought back to life, would he become a member of the Dark Seldarine? Would his realm be shifted to the Abyss or elsewhere?
Would a massive infusion of Positive Energy such as a portal to the PE Plane be enough to stir the corpse of a dead deity? |
Misanthorpe
Love is a lie. Only hate endures. Light is blinding. Only in darkness do we see clearly.
"Oh, you think darkness is your ally? You merely adopted the dark. I was born in it, molded by it. I didn't see the light until I was already a man, by then it was nothing to me but.. blinding. The shadows betray you because they belong to me." - Bane The Dark Knight Rises
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varyar
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 08 Feb 2012 : 00:42:08
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Fellfire,
As I recall (it's been a while!) I put Velesia's body on Faerun because that's where he lived (at the end) and died. It seemed fitting and in keeping with what happened to Karsus' body. (He might end up on the Astral, though - now that I think about it, doesn't the old Faiths and Avatars book say that's where all dead deities go?)
Re: the Dark Seldarine, I don't think he'd have anything to do with them. Velesia considers himself a true sun elf, and has nothing but contempt for Lolth and her cohorts. He'd ally with someone likewise mired in self-righteousness, but not an overtly evil god. I'm drawing a blank on who might fit the bill in terms of Faerun's gods here. A younger god, someone who emerged after the Fifth Crown war, maybe - someone Velesia never encountered before, and who has a church that at least seems honorable in character? |
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Leira the Mistshadow:
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Fellfire
Master of Realmslore
1965 Posts |
Posted - 08 Feb 2012 : 01:00:06
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Would a massive infusion of Positive Energy such as a portal to the PE Plane be enough to stir the corpse of a dead deity?
I think I may be on to something here, if it such a thing could be controlled. I need to finish my reading. I'm not sure if Positive Energy plays into the Dead Gods module, but it seems to make sense to me. |
Misanthorpe
Love is a lie. Only hate endures. Light is blinding. Only in darkness do we see clearly.
"Oh, you think darkness is your ally? You merely adopted the dark. I was born in it, molded by it. I didn't see the light until I was already a man, by then it was nothing to me but.. blinding. The shadows betray you because they belong to me." - Bane The Dark Knight Rises
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varyar
Learned Scribe
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Fellfire
Master of Realmslore
1965 Posts |
Posted - 08 Feb 2012 : 01:43:18
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| Faiths and Avatars does indeed say that a dead deity's body is mystically transported to the Astral. It goes on to describe that how, in some cases, the deity's power is sometimes absorbed by an artifact. In this case, perhaps Velesia's sword. So the Eldreth Veluuthra would need to gather the shards of his divinity (the sword), somehow jumpstart his corpse on the Astral (this is where the Positive Energy comes in) and find a way to reunite them. |
Misanthorpe
Love is a lie. Only hate endures. Light is blinding. Only in darkness do we see clearly.
"Oh, you think darkness is your ally? You merely adopted the dark. I was born in it, molded by it. I didn't see the light until I was already a man, by then it was nothing to me but.. blinding. The shadows betray you because they belong to me." - Bane The Dark Knight Rises
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Aryalómë
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 08 Feb 2012 : 02:18:08
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| Who is Velesia? I've never heard of such a deity. |
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varyar
Learned Scribe
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Fellfire
Master of Realmslore
1965 Posts |
Posted - 08 Feb 2012 : 03:00:41
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Definitely check the link. Top-shelf homebrew.
So, varyar, I'm thinking of doing a Rod of Seven Parts thing with Silithian (very Tolkien-esque), any ideas for possible powers of the shards? |
Misanthorpe
Love is a lie. Only hate endures. Light is blinding. Only in darkness do we see clearly.
"Oh, you think darkness is your ally? You merely adopted the dark. I was born in it, molded by it. I didn't see the light until I was already a man, by then it was nothing to me but.. blinding. The shadows betray you because they belong to me." - Bane The Dark Knight Rises
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varyar
Learned Scribe
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Eldacar
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 08 Feb 2012 : 03:59:42
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An adventure module published in Dungeon magazine (involving an assault on a Githyanki fortress on the Astral Plane) notes that repeated use of Wish spells (albeit several hundred if not thousand of them) can, over time and with careful wording, either return a dead god to life or allow an individual to steal his/her divine energy for themselves.
Naturally, it would take a long time. |
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Fellfire
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 08 Feb 2012 : 04:13:06
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| Do you recall which issue of Dungeon or the name of the mod, Eldacar? |
Misanthorpe
Love is a lie. Only hate endures. Light is blinding. Only in darkness do we see clearly.
"Oh, you think darkness is your ally? You merely adopted the dark. I was born in it, molded by it. I didn't see the light until I was already a man, by then it was nothing to me but.. blinding. The shadows betray you because they belong to me." - Bane The Dark Knight Rises
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 08 Feb 2012 : 04:43:29
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quote:
Originally posted by Fellfire
Do you recall which issue of Dungeon or the name of the mod, Eldacar?
Eldacar is referring to the "The Lich-Queen's Beloved" in DUNGEON #100. |
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Fellfire
Master of Realmslore
1965 Posts |
Posted - 08 Feb 2012 : 04:46:08
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| Thankee, Sage. |
Misanthorpe
Love is a lie. Only hate endures. Light is blinding. Only in darkness do we see clearly.
"Oh, you think darkness is your ally? You merely adopted the dark. I was born in it, molded by it. I didn't see the light until I was already a man, by then it was nothing to me but.. blinding. The shadows betray you because they belong to me." - Bane The Dark Knight Rises
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Fellfire
Master of Realmslore
1965 Posts |
Posted - 22 Feb 2012 : 02:59:32
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| Any other thoughts on this? |
Misanthorpe
Love is a lie. Only hate endures. Light is blinding. Only in darkness do we see clearly.
"Oh, you think darkness is your ally? You merely adopted the dark. I was born in it, molded by it. I didn't see the light until I was already a man, by then it was nothing to me but.. blinding. The shadows betray you because they belong to me." - Bane The Dark Knight Rises
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Jakk
Great Reader
Canada
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Posted - 22 Feb 2012 : 06:45:50
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IIRC, there was a Dragon article about lost Seldarine... "The Seldarine Revisited" by Chris Perry in Dragon 236 (I love DragonDex). The gods weren't dead, just forgotten by most elves and thus reduced in power and status.
Edit: I've shared my thoughts elsewhere on the possibility and process of resurrecting Bhaal and Myrkul, and possibly also Karsus, but those were a while ago and I don't have links handy. Use Google Advanced Search, limit your search to the domain forum.candlekeep.com, and search for all the words "Jakk" "Bhaal" and "Myrkul"... that should find what you're looking for if you're interested in those pre-ToT Realms deities. |
Playing in the Realms since the Old Grey Box (1987)... and *still* having fun with material published before 2008, despite the NDA'd lore.
If it's comparable in power with non-magical abilities, it's not magic. |
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Lord Karsus
Great Reader
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Posted - 23 Feb 2012 : 00:41:49
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quote:
Originally posted by Jakk
IIRC, there was a Dragon article about lost Seldarine... "The Seldarine Revisited" by Chris Perry in Dragon 236 (I love DragonDex). The gods weren't dead, just forgotten by most elves and thus reduced in power and status.
-Do note that those weren't Forgotten Realms specific, for those who are about those things. |
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Fellfire
Master of Realmslore
1965 Posts |
Posted - 24 Feb 2012 : 20:53:58
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| Jakk, I did as you suggested, but that still yielded a lot of scrolls to look through. I am more interested in the method you used, specifically, to bring back these deities than in the deities themselves. Would you care to elaborate? I'd love to hear it. |
Misanthorpe
Love is a lie. Only hate endures. Light is blinding. Only in darkness do we see clearly.
"Oh, you think darkness is your ally? You merely adopted the dark. I was born in it, molded by it. I didn't see the light until I was already a man, by then it was nothing to me but.. blinding. The shadows betray you because they belong to me." - Bane The Dark Knight Rises
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Jakk
Great Reader
Canada
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Posted - 24 Feb 2012 : 23:33:39
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quote:
Originally posted by Fellfire
Jakk, I did as you suggested, but that still yielded a lot of scrolls to look through. I am more interested in the method you used, specifically, to bring back these deities than in the deities themselves. Would you care to elaborate? I'd love to hear it.
I'm away from my notes right now, but the basic premise I used was (initially) a complete reworking of the Spellplague. My original concept is changing somewhat, because I like what Ed is doing with the new Elminster novels, so I need to stick with canon for the fates of Mystra and Azuth for the time being. With magic running wild, causing all kinds of chaos across Faerun and with the gods apparently unresponsive (because they are embroiled in their own struggles at the time), many mortals turn to the worship of ancient or forgotten deities, and with the rules of divine power being what they are since the ToT, many of these ancient deities are returned to individual existence (most of the Yuir pantheon were absorbed by other deities, but this can be easily undone by presuming that some fragment of the absorbed deity's individual will and essence survives to break free when called upon and empowered by sufficient numbers of worshippers). In general, that's how I made things work; each deity had its own special considerations, but that's the fundamental idea I used. Hope this helps.  |
Playing in the Realms since the Old Grey Box (1987)... and *still* having fun with material published before 2008, despite the NDA'd lore.
If it's comparable in power with non-magical abilities, it's not magic. |
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Fellfire
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 25 Feb 2012 : 06:08:53
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| Yes, I did read through those musings. Good stuff! I also read somewhere in there that you used the Crown of Horns as a focus, may I ask how? |
Misanthorpe
Love is a lie. Only hate endures. Light is blinding. Only in darkness do we see clearly.
"Oh, you think darkness is your ally? You merely adopted the dark. I was born in it, molded by it. I didn't see the light until I was already a man, by then it was nothing to me but.. blinding. The shadows betray you because they belong to me." - Bane The Dark Knight Rises
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Jakk
Great Reader
Canada
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Posted - 25 Feb 2012 : 21:10:49
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I didn't really get into the "how" in detail, largely because my time in the Realms was being heavily reduced by my time in Golarion, but it's funny that you should mention the Crown of Horns here. I was just now revisiting the idea of restoring Bhaal and Myrkul to the Realms when I found this scroll in a CK search. My present idea rests on the canon that (a) Myrkul's remaining essence is in the Crown, and (b) Bhaal's remaining essence is in the waters around Boareskyr Bridge (and possibly in the bridge itself). Okay, here goes... and the following is all homebrew, of course, and largely being created as it is typed into this post, so bear with me...
As Cyric struggles with Mystra for control of the Weave (this is not the clean "one shot" kill that is implied in the GHotR entry), the last of the Bhaalspawn (it doesn't matter who this is; see the Baldur's Gate CRPGs) arrives at Boareskyr Bridge with... of all things... the Crown of Horns. How this is achieved is up to the individual DM, and is all storylined anyway. When the Bhaalspawn dons the crown at the bridge (having been previously unable to do so, and led to the bridge by dreams*), the weakened controls over magic and the distracted attention of the deities caused by their struggles with each other allow the remnants of his predecessors to seize divine power back from the beings who slew them. The physical form of the Bhaalspawn splits as it undergoes apotheosis, restoring Bhaal and Myrkul to divine status (about which Myrkul is initially less than pleased; see the Crown of Horns description in 3E for details... title and page # when I find it), and Leira, ever the deceiver, returns from hiding to seize her powers (and the portfolios of Lies, Deception, and Illusion) from a reeling Cyric (see GHotR 144), while Bhaal reclaims the portfolio of Murder and Myrkul claims the portfolios of Intrigue and Strife... leaving Cyric with nothing. Mystra is saved from an attack by the two newly returned deities (one of whom was killed by the present Mystra during the ToT) by the presence of Leira, who is just as newly risen but far stronger than the other two combined at this point due to the large number of followers she has retained since the ToT. (Note that I have used the portfolios listed in the 3E FR Campaign Setting; I was under the impression that Cyric's portfolios had changed somewhat after the publication of this title, but I was unable to find anything; this may need to be tweaked for the actual state of canon... and, of course, I am assuming pre-Spellplague canon.) At any rate, I would have Mask succeed in reclaiming some of his former portfolios from Leira (perhaps the two are working together, or even lovers), and Cyric could be utterly destroyed or not, as you see fit.
* - The dreams could be coming from anywhere, but my personal choice would be from Bane, who misses his old partners-in-crime and is sick of the bumbling oaf Cyric. Just a thought. 
Edit: To account for the canonical disappearance of Mystra in 4E, and to leave an "out" for her return, Mystra is reduced greatly in status by the vengeful Myrkul in restoring his own power, but her portfolio is protected... either by the returned Leira or by Ao... and she is saved from utter destruction by this protection. My reasoning for this is simply that Bhaal and Myrkul resemble Karsus a bit too closely for Ao's comfort, even though Karsus (thought he) was acting in the best interests of the Realms (and Netheril in particular). Either way, it's easy to see Ao doing something subtle here to prevent another Karsus scenario, if such a thing hasn't already been pre-empted in some way by Mystra's own contingencies. [/edit] |
Playing in the Realms since the Old Grey Box (1987)... and *still* having fun with material published before 2008, despite the NDA'd lore.
If it's comparable in power with non-magical abilities, it's not magic. |
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Fellfire
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 26 Feb 2012 : 06:08:53
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| I am planning on having some PC's have a bit more direct hand in affairs and had wondered if you had figured out how this would be done. Dead Gods was somewhat helpful, but there are a lot of pesky details to overcome. |
Misanthorpe
Love is a lie. Only hate endures. Light is blinding. Only in darkness do we see clearly.
"Oh, you think darkness is your ally? You merely adopted the dark. I was born in it, molded by it. I didn't see the light until I was already a man, by then it was nothing to me but.. blinding. The shadows betray you because they belong to me." - Bane The Dark Knight Rises
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TBeholder
Great Reader
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Posted - 27 Feb 2012 : 07:52:29
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According to Finder in ''Finder's Bane'', you need the corpse (i.e. everything happens on Astral), a living priest (undead don't fit, so planar divine minions probably wouldn't either), a relic and some of divine essence (they used an essence heir).
Maybe a strong power key could substitute one of the latter two with extra jumping through loops, but nothing specific here.
All four components should belong to the deity in question, of course. Then the priest should perform the correct ritual.
And, of course, not have too much interference from any parties who are principially against the idea, already disliked the old chap when alive, or just want to be jerks. Which, hilariously enough, may be the hard part.
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Would a massive infusion of Positive Energy such as a portal to the PE Plane be enough to stir the corpse of a dead deity?
Where, to Astral? Besides, normal corpses merely explode from this treatment. |
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Fellfire
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 27 Feb 2012 : 08:09:10
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Originally posted by TBeholder
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Originally posted by Fellfire
Would a massive infusion of Positive Energy such as a portal to the PE Plane be enough to stir the corpse of a dead deity?
Where, to Astral? Besides, normal corpses merely explode from this treatment.
Would planar mechanics prevent this? And yes, under normal circumstances such a thing would be very bad, but in conjunction with some sort of awakening ritual, I thought it may work. |
Misanthorpe
Love is a lie. Only hate endures. Light is blinding. Only in darkness do we see clearly.
"Oh, you think darkness is your ally? You merely adopted the dark. I was born in it, molded by it. I didn't see the light until I was already a man, by then it was nothing to me but.. blinding. The shadows betray you because they belong to me." - Bane The Dark Knight Rises
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Fellfire
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 09 Jun 2012 : 23:42:28
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| Varyar, are you still around, old boy? Anybody else have any thoughts? |
Misanthorpe
Love is a lie. Only hate endures. Light is blinding. Only in darkness do we see clearly.
"Oh, you think darkness is your ally? You merely adopted the dark. I was born in it, molded by it. I didn't see the light until I was already a man, by then it was nothing to me but.. blinding. The shadows betray you because they belong to me." - Bane The Dark Knight Rises
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Ayrik
Great Reader
Canada
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Posted - 10 Jun 2012 : 01:13:47
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Another scribe disappeared?
Perhaps I shouldn't be surprised ... the keep is oft inhabited by dragons, vampires, mindflayers, and worse ... |
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Fellfire
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 10 Jun 2012 : 04:58:33
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| Well, I didn't eat his brain if that's what your implying. |
Misanthorpe
Love is a lie. Only hate endures. Light is blinding. Only in darkness do we see clearly.
"Oh, you think darkness is your ally? You merely adopted the dark. I was born in it, molded by it. I didn't see the light until I was already a man, by then it was nothing to me but.. blinding. The shadows betray you because they belong to me." - Bane The Dark Knight Rises
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Erik Scott de Bie
Forgotten Realms Author
USA
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Posted - 12 Jun 2012 : 15:48:28
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Depending on how you look at it, I am currently doing things with my novel character Shadowbane that could conceivably bring about the resurrection of Helm. This involves a shard of divinity being carried around in the form of an artifact, much as what was mentioned earlier.
2 cents!
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'Tis easier to destroy than to create.
Author of a number of Realms novels (GHOSTWALKER, DEPTHS OF MADNESS, and the SHADOWBANE series), contributor to the NEVERWINTER CAMPAIGN GUIDE and SHADOWFELL: GLOOMWROUGHT AND BEYOND, Twitch DM of the Dungeon Scrawlers, currently playing "The Westgate Irregulars" |
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Fellfire
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 20 Jun 2012 : 02:44:03
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| So, Erik, theoretically, since I know you cannot reveal details of your upcoming novel, what would be the next step? |
Misanthorpe
Love is a lie. Only hate endures. Light is blinding. Only in darkness do we see clearly.
"Oh, you think darkness is your ally? You merely adopted the dark. I was born in it, molded by it. I didn't see the light until I was already a man, by then it was nothing to me but.. blinding. The shadows betray you because they belong to me." - Bane The Dark Knight Rises
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Erik Scott de Bie
Forgotten Realms Author
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Posted - 20 Jun 2012 : 03:32:48
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Originally posted by Fellfire
So, Erik, theoretically, since I know you cannot reveal details of your upcoming novel, what would be the next step?
Well, theoretically, it could be anything. Maybe the artifact needs to drain soul energy from victims, maybe it grows in power as the wielder does (so the wielder needs to hit epic levels), or maybe it's a straight-up apotheosis of the wielder into a demigod/exarch to serve as a reborn version of that deity. For instance, say the Simbul carries around the Crown of Thorns--she could ascend to godhood as the newly reborn Myrkul.
Generally, the power probably has to come from somewhere, whether it's taken from other gods, a particularly powerful area/object, or comes from within. Or maybe the artifact needs to seek out a mightier, worthier wielder to take it that next step.
You never know!
Cheers |
Erik Scott de Bie
'Tis easier to destroy than to create.
Author of a number of Realms novels (GHOSTWALKER, DEPTHS OF MADNESS, and the SHADOWBANE series), contributor to the NEVERWINTER CAMPAIGN GUIDE and SHADOWFELL: GLOOMWROUGHT AND BEYOND, Twitch DM of the Dungeon Scrawlers, currently playing "The Westgate Irregulars" |
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Resurrecting a Dead God
