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Shadowlord
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Posted - 09 Jan 2004 :  01:59:12  Show Profile  Visit Shadowlord's Homepage Send Shadowlord a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
Not much is known of Chaulssin, the City of Wyrmshadows, not even by me. Did the inhabitants of the city follow Lolth, Vhaeraun, Ghaunadaur, Kairansalee, or some other deity? What caused it's fall from power? When did the Jaezred Chaulssin begin? If anyone has answers to these questions, please post.

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"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri.

The Sage
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Posted - 09 Jan 2004 :  06:13:46  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Actually, I think that Chaulssin's brief write-up in the Underdark tome is the only full reference to this Drow city. Looking through most of my 2e FR materials, I found little. And there is nothing else written about it in any 3e tome.

Perhaps Faraer will have more...

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Shadowlord
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Posted - 09 Jan 2004 :  06:15:57  Show Profile  Visit Shadowlord's Homepage Send Shadowlord a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hmmm, it seems as though what little materials that have been printed on Chaulssin were lost, or there were not that many to begin with.... Sage, if it isn't too inconvienient, can you post the brief mention in the Underdark tome? It may help my story.

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"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri.
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Yes I can, but first, where did you learn of this city to begin with?.

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Posted - 09 Jan 2004 :  06:29:10  Show Profile  Visit Shadowlord's Homepage Send Shadowlord a Private Message  Reply with Quote
WotSQ Book 3 Condemnation..... I would expect you to know that, Sage....

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The Sage
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Okay, here's what we know about the City of Wyrmshadows, called Chaulssin by some -



This semi-deserted crumbling ruin is said to lay below the northern most tip of the Rauvin Mountains, in the Middle Underdark. The city rests on an unusually large and awkward spur of hard stone overhanging a very large, and very deep abyss. The city sits at the top of this spur resting in the emptiness of the underground cavern.

It is said that Chaulssin was once a Drow city, but at some point in it's history (about 1,500 years ago) a small clan of Shadow Dragons conquered much of the city, and made slaves of it's population. These 'Wyrmshadows' dragons are said to have ruled the city of Chaulssin for many centuries, but in the end, their rule was brought down by their assorted collection of Half-Drow/Half-Dragon progeny. These progeny are believed to have considerable planar magics at their command.

Few of these descendents actually exist today, but a semi-secret organisation (House) of Drow Master assassins (called the Jaezred Chaulssin), regularly use the ruins as a base of operations, and their main stronghold.

It is also known that Chaulssin exists partially in the Plane of Shadow, much like the city of Sphur Urpa in Middle Earthroot. Much shadow-stuff finds it's way around the ruins, and deadly Shadow planes monsters hunt for prey here. It is not uncommon for entire quarters, or some sections of the ruined city to disappear for a period of time within the Plane of Shadow.



Well, that's it...

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quote:
Originally posted by Shadowlord

WotSQ Book 3 Condemnation..... I would expect you to know that, Sage....

Well in my own defense, it's been quite a while since I read that book, so...

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Shadowlord
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Posted - 09 Jan 2004 :  06:42:43  Show Profile  Visit Shadowlord's Homepage Send Shadowlord a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thanks for your help Sage, you have my everlasting gratitude. Its not much, but its far more than i expected.... Now my only question is what deity the populace venerated. I would think it would be lolth, but there are colonies of Vhaeraun, temples of Eilistraee, and Ghaunadaur the slime lord, well, he has his mold
So once again thanks, and it seems as though I'll be making up a bit of information to complete my story....

The Chosen of Vhaeraun
"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri.
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The Sage
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Posted - 09 Jan 2004 :  06:50:03  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The entry in the Underdark tome makes no mention of any kind of deity worship, so you should be pretty safe to assume which ever faith you wish. Although during, or even post-Shadow Dragon occupation, I would say that both Vhaeraun and Kiaransalee could be a possibility...maybe even Zinzerena...

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Shadowlord
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Posted - 09 Jan 2004 :  06:54:41  Show Profile  Visit Shadowlord's Homepage Send Shadowlord a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I would not think Zinzerena too great a possibility, but as for Vhaeraun and Kairansalee, I suppose I can see them having places of worship in Chaulssin. Thank you for all your help Sage. Say, you wouldn't be interested in converting to the Faithful of Vhaeraun, now would you?

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"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri.
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The Sage
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Well, I wouldn't say that the worship of Zinzerena would be too far of a stretch for the populace, at least not the Jaezred Chaulssin anyway. She is afterall the very image of a master assassin, and is said to embody the very powerful principle of absolute chaos...



Sorry Shadowlord, but my faith belongs only to the Sage at Sunset...Labelas Enoreth...

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Shadowlord
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Posted - 09 Jan 2004 :  07:02:49  Show Profile  Visit Shadowlord's Homepage Send Shadowlord a Private Message  Reply with Quote
hmmmm, tis a shame, a mind like yours would do the Masked Lord proud

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"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri.
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Posted - 09 Jan 2004 :  07:05:23  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hmm...I thought your first response would be..."Huh, a gnome worshipping a member of the Seldarine...???"

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Shadowlord
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Posted - 09 Jan 2004 :  07:06:55  Show Profile  Visit Shadowlord's Homepage Send Shadowlord a Private Message  Reply with Quote
you forget, Vaheraun is an outcast, hes no more a member of the Seldarine than Baervan Wildwanderer.

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"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri.
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The Sage
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Yes, but you are Drow are you not, and you worship a Drow god?...My character is a gnome, who worships an Elven deity.

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Edited by - The Sage on 09 Jan 2004 07:12:25
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Shadowlord
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Posted - 13 Jan 2004 :  03:35:52  Show Profile  Visit Shadowlord's Homepage Send Shadowlord a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hmmm, it does not matter, as long as you convert, my friend.........

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"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri.
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Posted - 13 Jan 2004 :  13:24:37  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
That is unlikely...

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Shadowlord
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Posted - 13 Jan 2004 :  21:05:37  Show Profile  Visit Shadowlord's Homepage Send Shadowlord a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Not if Vhaeraun conquers the Seldarine!!!!!!

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"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri.
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Posted - 13 Jan 2004 :  23:55:50  Show Profile  Visit Faraer's Homepage Send Faraer a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Chaulssin is listed in FOR2, discussed on p. 66 of DDGttU -- which suggests it's Nurvureem's origin, though her "Wyrms of the North" writeup doesn't say so -- and then what's been mentioned.
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Shadowlord
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Posted - 14 Jan 2004 :  00:20:26  Show Profile  Visit Shadowlord's Homepage Send Shadowlord a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Yes, I've already read it.....not too much info, I'm afraid

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"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri.
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lowtech
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Posted - 21 Jan 2004 :  18:19:06  Show Profile  Visit lowtech's Homepage Send lowtech a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Shadowlord

Hmmm, it does not matter, as long as you convert, my friend.........



But Vhaerun woudn't accept a gnomish convert...
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Shadowlord
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Posted - 21 Jan 2004 :  20:27:37  Show Profile  Visit Shadowlord's Homepage Send Shadowlord a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ah, what you say is true of course, but there was a little chance......

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"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri.
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