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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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 Posted - 05 Oct 2012 : 03:05:43
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Originally posted by Markustay
'The Art' section also looks to be useful - Sage should especially enjoy that.
I must've missed that. Which excerpt is it from? |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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farinal
Learned Scribe
Turkey
270 Posts |
Posted - 06 Oct 2012 : 01:01:10
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Originally posted by CorellonsDevout
I pre-ordered it on Amazon
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Dalor Darden
Great Reader
USA
4255 Posts |
Posted - 06 Oct 2012 : 03:48:17
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Well, I just finished reading Elminster's Forgotten Realms...
Vangie is a dragon?! 
Awesome book!  |
The Old Grey Box and AD&D for me! |
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Eilserus
Master of Realmslore
USA
1446 Posts |
Posted - 06 Oct 2012 : 04:29:30
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Dalor Darden
Great Reader
USA
4255 Posts |
Posted - 06 Oct 2012 : 04:40:46
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Originally posted by Eilserus
Whoa, how'd you get a copy so early? Lucky!
Totally by accident actually...it just came today! |
The Old Grey Box and AD&D for me! |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31799 Posts |
Posted - 06 Oct 2012 : 06:04:21
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Originally posted by Dalor Darden
Well, I just finished reading Elminster's Forgotten Realms...
Vangie is a dragon?!
You might want to read Elminster's Daughter, Dalor. *wink* |
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
USA
15724 Posts |
Posted - 06 Oct 2012 : 07:01:55
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Originally posted by Dalor Darden
quote:
Originally posted by Eilserus
Whoa, how'd you get a copy so early? Lucky!
Totally by accident actually...it just came today!
When you get a chance, give us a review.  |
"I have never in my life learned anything from any man who agreed with me" --- Dudley Field Malone
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Brimstone
Great Reader
USA
3290 Posts |
Posted - 06 Oct 2012 : 13:43:04
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Hesperdan is a black dragon Elminster Enraged. |
"These things also I have observed: that knowledge of our world is
to be nurtured like a precious flower, for it is the most precious
thing we have. Wherefore guard the word written and heed
words unwritten and set them down ere they fade . . . Learn
then, well, the arts of reading, writing, and listening true, and they
will lead you to the greatest art of all: understanding."
Alaundo of Candlekeep |
Edited by - Brimstone on 06 Oct 2012 13:43:31 |
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Dalor Darden
Great Reader
USA
4255 Posts |
Posted - 06 Oct 2012 : 19:15:07
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The only true review I can offer on this book is that it is indeed neutral regarding edition.
Splattered with notes originally sent to TSR by Ed, as well as later notes as well.
It gives a solid feel on many aspects of the FR that have changed my views on some things...and on Manshoon in particular...who is FAR from gone following the Manshoon wars...
Even the section on the gods was very informative, and gave lots of insight on many gods THOUGHT to be gone.
Ed spins a good yarn...but uses that yarn to create a tapestry of wonder. He gives a great many tips on solid gaming his style, but makes it so that you can take what you want and leave the rest of the cake behind if you like.
That's about the only review I can throw out...just read it and love it is all I can say!
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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore
Australia
6688 Posts |
Posted - 07 Oct 2012 : 07:38:17
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Originally posted by Dalor Darden
That's about the only review I can throw out...just read it and love it is all I can say!
And for Mystra's sake BUY IT. Word from Ed is that if it sells well, there will be more ...
-- George Krashos
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"Because only we, contrary to the barbarians, never count the enemy in battle." -- Aeschylus |
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Derulbaskul
Senior Scribe
Singapore
408 Posts |
Posted - 07 Oct 2012 : 07:43:24
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It's out already?
Fantastic.
For some reason I thought I was going to have to wait until November.
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Originally posted by Markustay (snip_ It may have also been bad editing. (snip)
Brought to you by the company responsible for See Page XX for more than ten years already.... |
Cheers
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NB: Please remember: A cannon is a big gun. Canon is what we discuss here. |
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Dalor Darden
Great Reader
USA
4255 Posts |
Posted - 07 Oct 2012 : 15:31:35
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Originally posted by Derulbaskul
It's out already?
Fantastic.
For some reason I thought I was going to have to wait until November.
It was supposed to be released on the 16th this month...mine happened to come early for some reason. |
The Old Grey Box and AD&D for me! |
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
USA
15724 Posts |
Posted - 07 Oct 2012 : 18:00:37
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Originally posted by George Krashos
quote:
Originally posted by Dalor Darden
That's about the only review I can throw out...just read it and love it is all I can say!
And for Mystra's sake BUY IT. Word from Ed is that if it sells well, there will be more ...
Actually, that was the word from the guy who makes such decisions, who was at the CK meet-up at Gencon. So that isn't so much a 'hope' as it is a promise. Their product line will now be based entirely on what sells (rather then what they want to sell, which seems to have been the 4e paradigm).
Maybe for the first time ever, the fans are literally 'steering the Realms'.
And we have a great captain this time out.  |
"I have never in my life learned anything from any man who agreed with me" --- Dudley Field Malone
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Bakra
Senior Scribe
628 Posts |
Posted - 08 Oct 2012 : 15:00:16
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Originally posted by Dalor Darden
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Originally posted by Derulbaskul
It's out already?
Fantastic.
For some reason I thought I was going to have to wait until November.
It was supposed to be released on the 16th this month...mine happened to come early for some reason.
Scribes tend to forget ‘Premiere stores’ get WotC items early. Of course I’m not saying a certain scribe is a store but it is cool that WotC thought you were one.
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I hope Candlekeep continues to be the friendly forum of fellow Realms-lovers that it has always been, as we all go through this together. If you don’t want to move to the “new” Realms, that doesn’t mean there’s anything wrong with either you or the “old” Realms. Goodness knows Candlekeep, and the hearts of its scribes, are both big enough to accommodate both. If we want them to be.
(Strikes dramatic pose, raises sword to gleam in the sunset, and hopes breeches won’t fall down.)
Enough for now. The Realms lives! I have spoken! Ale and light wines half price, served by a smiling Storm Silverhand fetchingly clad in thigh-high boots and naught else! Ahem . .
So saith Ed. <snip>
love to all,
THO
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Seravin
Master of Realmslore
Canada
1303 Posts |
Posted - 09 Oct 2012 : 03:51:13
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| Pre-ordered it today! Can't WAIT!! |
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Caolin
Senior Scribe
769 Posts |
Posted - 09 Oct 2012 : 04:59:17
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KnightErrantJR
Great Reader
USA
5402 Posts |
Posted - 10 Oct 2012 : 02:08:14
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| I will fully admit that I am chomping at the bit to get the chance to pick this book up. For a long time I just wanted an excuse to "reset" my interest in the Realms, and this seems to be the exact thing to do just that for me. |
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danbuter
Seeker
USA
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Posted - 10 Oct 2012 : 03:40:08
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| I'm interested in whether Ed uses Kelemvor/Midnight/Cyric, etc. or if he still uses the gray box gods. |
Nothing beats the gray box!
Dan |
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Dalor Darden
Great Reader
USA
4255 Posts |
Posted - 10 Oct 2012 : 06:17:13
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Originally posted by danbuter
I'm interested in whether Ed uses Kelemvor/Midnight/Cyric, etc. or if he still uses the gray box gods.
All of the above...
EDIT: ...plus... |
The Old Grey Box and AD&D for me! |
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
USA
15724 Posts |
Posted - 11 Oct 2012 : 22:23:41
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@Dalor - is there any other book you could compare this to? As in, type of content?
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"I have never in my life learned anything from any man who agreed with me" --- Dudley Field Malone
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Dalor Darden
Great Reader
USA
4255 Posts |
Posted - 11 Oct 2012 : 23:11:46
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Honestly, it is much the same as the Old Grey Box...but with a "stouter" stamp on the Realms if that makes any sense.
I think that Ed could have easily written a book with three times the page count...and still left me thirsting for more.
In it you will find BARELY any numbers so to speak...even the pay he cites for soldiers and such comes with a "This may be true today, but entirely wrong the next day" sort of feel in his writing.
In essence, it lights the fire in your head for many thousands of possible uses...while not nailing anything down as "IT MUST BE THIS WAY...SO SAYS THE GODS!" the way that Ed does best.
Some of the examples would be the early working diagram of the agents of the Zhentarim...that is only a snap-shot of any given day because it may very well change the next.
Elminster's Forgotten Realms is as good a template that allows a DM to move pieces around or simply disregard what he wishes...and yet also leaves more than ample room to add what you want in your own FR.
The best I can say is that it is more like Ed working with each individual DM to create any number of mirror worlds of Ed's own FR. |
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Brimstone
Great Reader
USA
3290 Posts |
Posted - 12 Oct 2012 : 00:35:27
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Originally posted by Dalor Darden
Honestly, it is much the same as the Old Grey Box...but with a "stouter" stamp on the Realms if that makes any sense.
I think that Ed could have easily written a book with three times the page count...and still left me thirsting for more.
In it you will find BARELY any numbers so to speak...even the pay he cites for soldiers and such comes with a "This may be true today, but entirely wrong the next day" sort of feel in his writing.
In essence, it lights the fire in your head for many thousands of possible uses...while not nailing anything down as "IT MUST BE THIS WAY...SO SAYS THE GODS!" the way that Ed does best.
Some of the examples would be the early working diagram of the agents of the Zhentarim...that is only a snap-shot of any given day because it may very well change the next.
Elminster's Forgotten Realms is as good a template that allows a DM to move pieces around or simply disregard what he wishes...and yet also leaves more than ample room to add what you want in your own FR.
The best I can say is that it is more like Ed working with each individual DM to create any number of mirror worlds of Ed's own FR.
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"These things also I have observed: that knowledge of our world is
to be nurtured like a precious flower, for it is the most precious
thing we have. Wherefore guard the word written and heed
words unwritten and set them down ere they fade . . . Learn
then, well, the arts of reading, writing, and listening true, and they
will lead you to the greatest art of all: understanding."
Alaundo of Candlekeep |
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Eilserus
Master of Realmslore
USA
1446 Posts |
Posted - 12 Oct 2012 : 01:15:04
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| I can't wait until the 16th so I can get a copy! :) |
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Therise
Master of Realmslore
1272 Posts |
Posted - 16 Oct 2012 : 16:01:24
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I admit, I'm curious enough about this book that I plan to go check it out later today.
If it really is amazing and awesome and all that, I might even buy it. But we'll see. No more sight-unseen purchases for this girl.
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Female, 40-year DM of a homebrew-evolved 1E Realms, including a few added tidbits of 2E and 3E lore; played originally in AD&D, then in Rolemaster. Be a DM for your kids and grandkids, gaming is excellent for families! |
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BlackAce
Senior Scribe
United Kingdom
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Posted - 28 Dec 2012 : 11:18:56
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Originally posted by Markustay
EDIT: Interestingly (to me, at any rate), I was just researching something else and discovered that the region around Yarthrain (just NW of the Hill of Lost Souls) is consider the 'Backlands Barony' and is part of Amn (an unprotected, hollow claim, but a claim none the less). This Barony is not too far west of Cormyr's most eastern border - the Sunrise Mountains (bcause Cormyr claims the Tunlands - another fairly hollow claim).
Not that that proves anything either way, but I find it interesting that their 'claimed' borders are actually fairly close.
Wow, I don't imagine the city states of the Chionthar are too happy about that. |
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D&D Excerpts:- 'Elminster's Forgotten Realms'
