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ElaineCunningham
Forgotten Realms Author
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 Posted - 15 Jun 2010 : 15:47:35
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Mrs. Cunningham, I've seen in another post that maybe you'd attend to GenCon 2010. Can you say me if you're still planning to be there? I have no means of going, but a friend of mine will go, and I thought that maybe, if it's not too much to ask, I could send my hardcover Evermeet for you to write a dedicatory... 
I'd be happy to, but it doesn't look as if I'll be attending Gen Con this year. |
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Barastir
Master of Realmslore
Brazil
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Posted - 15 Jun 2010 : 16:48:31
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Originally posted by ElaineCunningham
I'd be happy to, but it doesn't look as if I'll be attending Gen Con this year.
It's a shame... But thank you anyway, you're always very kind to your fans. 
Good news for me, it seems my younger brother has a paperback "Realms of Infamy" at home, borrowed from a friend that never showed up again. I'm asking him to confirm it, so probably I'll have "The more things change" in my hands until next Sunday...  |
"Goodness is not a natural state, but must be
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Lead by example.
Let your deeds speak your intentions.
Goodness radiated from the heart."
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 16 Jun 2010 : 00:58:04
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Originally posted by ElaineCunningham
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Originally posted by Penknight
Hello! I was just wondering if at the end of Evermeet, you intended for Laeroth Runemaster to have met his end, or if he was spared from the destruction of the Towers of the Sun and the Moon, meaning he's still around. I always liked reading about him, and thought he was a very interesting character in that novel, which remains one of my favorite Realms books of all time. My other favorites were written by you as well. Thank you for your time, and I wish you all the best on future projects.
Thanks, Penknight!
Unless something has been added to the lore since Evermeet,Laeroth Runemaster's official status is "unknown." His fate was not detailed, as the storyteller (Danilo Thann) didn't have a particular reason for doing so.
Now that you mention it, the impact of the towers' destruction on one of the tower's mages--assuming he survived--could be an interesting story.
I'm pretty sure, in the Last Mythal trilogy, that Laeroth has gone on to Arvandor. I recall someone saying that Rich Baker had confirmed this (I was disputing the then-vague wording), but I've not got that quote handy. |
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Penknight
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Posted - 16 Jun 2010 : 01:42:18
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Originally posted by Barastir
Penknight, it was really a good question: when I read about the destruction of the towers, I automatically assumed the High Mages were all destroyed (with Amlaruil as the sole exception). But I think there were High Mages in the game after that, so maybe some of them survived the explosion.
Thank you Ashe. I always enjoyed reading how he is in that book as well as looking him over in the Evermeet sourcebook. He was in a lot of my campaigns, and my players all seemed to like him a great deal. |
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Penknight
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Posted - 16 Jun 2010 : 02:00:56
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by ElaineCunningham
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Originally posted by Penknight
Hello! I was just wondering if at the end of Evermeet, you intended for Laeroth Runemaster to have met his end, or if he was spared from the destruction of the Towers of the Sun and the Moon, meaning he's still around. I always liked reading about him, and thought he was a very interesting character in that novel, which remains one of my favorite Realms books of all time. My other favorites were written by you as well. Thank you for your time, and I wish you all the best on future projects.
Thanks, Penknight!
Unless something has been added to the lore since Evermeet,Laeroth Runemaster's official status is "unknown." His fate was not detailed, as the storyteller (Danilo Thann) didn't have a particular reason for doing so.
Now that you mention it, the impact of the towers' destruction on one of the tower's mages--assuming he survived--could be an interesting story.
I'm pretty sure, in the Last Mythal trilogy, that Laeroth has gone on to Arvandor. I recall someone saying that Rich Baker had confirmed this (I was disputing the then-vague wording), but I've not got that quote handy.
There were a lot of things either off or just wrong in that trilogy. Wouldn't surprise me if that was just another one of them, really. I appreciate your helping me to recall some things from that series, Wooly. I actually think now I that I remember what you're talking about. I think it was pretty vague.
Unless he didn't actually pass on to Arvandor and it's all a part of something so much deeper, where he and a select few are working behind the scenes to do something great for the elven People. Anything's possible though, right?  |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 16 Jun 2010 : 03:09:31
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Originally posted by Penknight
There were a lot of things either off or just wrong in that trilogy. Wouldn't surprise me if that was just another one of them, really. I appreciate your helping me to recall some things from that series, Wooly. I actually think now I that I remember what you're talking about. I think it was pretty vague.
Unless he didn't actually pass on to Arvandor and it's all a part of something so much deeper, where he and a select few are working behind the scenes to do something great for the elven People. Anything's possible though, right?
As I recall, someone asked Rich why Laeroth wasn't in the trilogy, and Rich replied that he felt Laeroth had had enough time to move on. When I pointed out that this was a vague wording and didn't necessarily mean Laeroth had actually gone to Arvandor, Rich came back and said Laeroth had definitely moved on.
Of course, this is all from memory, and it was secondhand, anyway: the querying of Rich was, as I recall, happening on the WotC forums, where I do not venture.
I can say that I've read the Last Mythal pretty recently, and I'm not recalling anything more than a passing reference to Laeroth -- if even that. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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Penknight
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Posted - 16 Jun 2010 : 03:56:25
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| Ok, thank you both, gentlemen. And personally, I doubt that he'd just move on like that. Especially now (well, 1370's now) when things are so uncertain for the elves. To figure otherwise is just... I can't find a word that's not insulting to say about that. I could possibly say 'ignorant' though and be safe. |
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Penknight
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Posted - 16 Jun 2010 : 04:04:34
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| I just realized I was kind of side tracking this thread, and I'd like to apologize, Mrs. Cunningham, as well as to the other scribes here and the moderators. I hope you can all forgive me for that. |
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Zireael
Master of Realmslore
Poland
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Posted - 16 Jun 2010 : 09:58:52
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Mrs. Cunningham, could you tell me if Kymil survived his failed attempt to conquer Evermeet? I do not recall anything specific being said in the novel, apart from Lamruil unmasking him. |
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ElaineCunningham
Forgotten Realms Author
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Posted - 16 Jun 2010 : 12:25:19
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Mrs. Cunningham, could you tell me if Kymil survived his failed attempt to conquer Evermeet? I do not recall anything specific being said in the novel, apart from Lamruil unmasking him.
He did. Settling up with Kymil Nimesin is something that should happen onstage, in grim and glorious detail. IMO, Elaith Craulnober should be the creative director of that event. |
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Barastir
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 16 Jun 2010 : 12:49:38
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Considering Zireael question, I'll take the chance to make another one. After unmasking Lord Nimesin, Prince Lamruil drew his father's moonblade, and tried to strike the traitor. The gold elf activated a gate, and vanished before the strike landed.
This raised a question that haven't occurred to me, for I read Evermeet years ago and Silver Shadows just a couple of months ago: since Prince Lamruil drew the king sword and was judged worthy, it means he was accepted as an heir? So, he must gently refuse Arilyn's moonblade? If I recall properly, he was named her blade's successor, and Mrs. Cunningham stated that no elf could (or would) claim two moonblades at once.
I know questions about the king sword are NDA, just wanted to confirm that Zaor's moonblade necessarily accepted Prince Lamruil as its next owner, or if it was just an temporary acceptance for one single act of justice for the People. (After all, Queen Amlaruil touched and was accepted by the king sword - sometimes even while Zaor still lived -, and it doesn't mean she was considered its owner after his death, right? Well, there's always the possibility of her leaving the blade to future generations...)
So, the actual question is not about the king sword, but if a moonblade can accept a "one time wielder" without a bonding for life, or if the blade, once wielded, is comitted to that person.
Note: I checked out and found that this same question was raised in a "two moonblades, one heir" thread, but then there was no definitive answer. It was not clear if Prince Lamruil kept the king sword after Evermeet, althought the probable outcome of gently refusing Arilyn's blade if he actually keeps his father's blade, was considered.
Since Mrs. Cunningham didn't answer to that particular post, can I expect some light over it here, in her thread? (And here I go again raising more questions about the moonblades). |
"Goodness is not a natural state, but must be
fought for to be attained and maintained.
Lead by example.
Let your deeds speak your intentions.
Goodness radiated from the heart."
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Penknight
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Posted - 16 Jun 2010 : 13:08:56
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Originally posted by Zireael
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Mrs. Cunningham, could you tell me if Kymil survived his failed attempt to conquer Evermeet? I do not recall anything specific being said in the novel, apart from Lamruil unmasking him.
Actually I was in the middle of something far more important time-wise and decided to post and run. |
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ElaineCunningham
Forgotten Realms Author
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Posted - 16 Jun 2010 : 17:02:51
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Originally posted by Barastir
Considering Zireael question, I'll take the chance to make another one. After unmasking Lord Nimesin, Prince Lamruil drew his father's moonblade, and tried to strike the traitor. The gold elf activated a gate, and vanished before the strike landed.
This raised a question that haven't occurred to me, for I read Evermeet years ago and Silver Shadows just a couple of months ago: since Prince Lamruil drew the king sword and was judged worthy, it means he was accepted as an heir? So, he must gently refuse Arilyn's moonblade? If I recall properly, he was named her blade's successor, and Mrs. Cunningham stated that no elf could (or would) claim two moonblades at once.
I know questions about the king sword are NDA, just wanted to confirm that Zaor's moonblade necessarily accepted Prince Lamruil as its next owner, or if it was just an temporary acceptance for one single act of justice for the People. (After all, Queen Amlaruil touched and was accepted by the king sword - sometimes even while Zaor still lived -, and it doesn't mean she was considered its owner after his death, right? Well, there's always the possibility of her leaving the blade to future generations...)
So, the actual question is not about the king sword, but if a moonblade can accept a "one time wielder" without a bonding for life, or if the blade, once wielded, is comitted to that person.
Note: I checked out and found that this same question was raised in a "two moonblades, one heir" thread, but then there was no definitive answer. It was not clear if Prince Lamruil kept the king sword after Evermeet, althought the probable outcome of gently refusing Arilyn's blade if he actually keeps his father's blade, was considered.
Since Mrs. Cunningham didn't answer to that particular post, can I expect some light over it here, in her thread? (And here I go again raising more questions about the moonblades).
Lamruil will not inherit Arilyn's moonblade, nor will he wield the kingsword or rule Evermeet. At the end of the novel Evermeet, his mother, Queen Amlaruil, released him from the burden of kingship so that he could wed Maura and live a life more suited to his restless, adventurous nature.
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Barastir
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 16 Jun 2010 : 18:46:18
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Originally posted by ElaineCunningham
Lamruil will not inherit Arilyn's moonblade, nor will he wield the kingsword or rule Evermeet. At the end of the novel Evermeet, his mother, Queen Amlaruil, released him from the burden of kingship so that he could wed Maura and live a life more suited to his restless, adventurous nature.
I should have deduced he'd not inherit the kingsword after his release of the Evermeet throne responsibility. And given that situation, there is no reason why he would inherit Arilyn's blade, since this is the initial purpose of the moonblades, right? Or maybe there is another reason in Dream Spheres... I really must read Evermeet again, and read the 4th and 5th books of Songs & Swords...
About Arilyn's moonblade, just one more question. In an earlier post, you said the moonblades judged more direct lineages. But Amnestria earned her blade from a "distant relative", according to Evermeet. How close were their blood ties? I think I read it somewhere, but I just can't remember the font and quality of this information. |
"Goodness is not a natural state, but must be
fought for to be attained and maintained.
Lead by example.
Let your deeds speak your intentions.
Goodness radiated from the heart."
The Paladin's Virtues, excerpt from the "Quentin's Monograph"
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ElaineCunningham
Forgotten Realms Author
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Posted - 18 Jun 2010 : 03:25:37
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Got a little announcement to make: my first FR novel in years, THE SERPENT'S DAUGHTER, is well underway.
Few elf maidens looked toward a future as bright as Azariah Craulnober's. Raised in the court of Evermeet as a royal ward, heir to the Craulnober moonblade, a skilled dancer and a promising scholar and bard, she was considered an ornament to the court and a likely choice of a second bride for the recently widowed Prince Lamruil.
All that ended the day she sailed for Evermeet in the company of her father, her half-elven swordmistress, and a human bard. When her world quite literally vanished in the cataclysm she later learned to call the Spellplague, her only chance of survival lay in convincing her "rescuers" that she could cut them in on her father's latest venture. They readily agreed, believing that the serpent's daughter would be much easier to outwit than her infamous father.
Their mistake.
There are very few "caper" novels in the Realms. I've long wanted to try my hand at one, and I loved the notion of Azariah Craulnober being forced into the family business and finding that, in many ways, she truly is her father's daughter.
This novel has been in development for quite a while. and after this week I'll be going full steam ahead. Here are all the specifics I can give you at this time: The length is 90,000 words, which is about average for a Realms novel; the first draft will be delivered on September 1 and a final version on November 15; publication will be sometime in 2012. I'll share more information as matters progress.
I'm delighted to be returning to the Realms with a new generation and new characters. Azariah is turning out to be, hands down, my favorite protagonist yet. If you're a fan or a foe of Elaith Craulnober, keep an eye out for The Serpent's Daughter
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Penknight
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Posted - 18 Jun 2010 : 03:52:39
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| Congratulations, and know that I'll be picking this up as soon as it comes out! Yours will be the first new Realms novel I've read in a long time, and it's an honor to get to come back to reading them with one of your wonderful stories! I wish you all of my best on the book, Mrs. Cunningham! |
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Menelvagor
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Posted - 18 Jun 2010 : 06:51:01
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Congratulations, Elaine! This is great news, I'm so excited. How can we wait until 2012 now?
So apparently Maura is dead, hmmm? That's not that fun, but still... for another novel by you, featuring Azariah, with Elaith and Arilyn as possible supporting characters (or even just appearing in cameos), I would have been willing to sacrifice a lot, so I guess I'm good with it. |
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Kajehase
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Posted - 18 Jun 2010 : 09:19:02
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Wheee! *plays celebratory vuvuzela-fanfare*
Um... can you play a fanfare on a one-tone instrument? Other than a very boring one, that is. |
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Kyrene
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Posted - 18 Jun 2010 : 10:03:03
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Wheee! *plays celebratory vuvuzela-fanfare*
Um... can you play a fanfare on a one-tone instrument? Other than a very boring one, that is.
[derail thread]
Are you here for the WC, Kajehase?
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Zireael
Master of Realmslore
Poland
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Posted - 18 Jun 2010 : 10:10:55
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| I won't repeat myself, but that's wonderful news. Apart from the fact it does take away all the questions I wanted to ask. |
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Barastir
Master of Realmslore
Brazil
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Posted - 18 Jun 2010 : 12:22:43
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Great news indeed, Mrs. Cunningham! The moonblades, The Hobbit on theaters, and now Serpent's Daughter... One more reason for me to expect 2012!!!
Have I ever told you my favorite D&D characters are the ones you created or developed in your novels? And I consider the Serpent one of the best fiction villains ever... Second only to Darth Vader, IF you ignore the "Anakin trilogy "(otherwise, Elaith is the best, IMO).
In the D&D universe I also liked very much Lord Soth in Knight of the Black Rose, but he sounded very like a "medieval Darth Vader" to me. Anyone else here had this same impression?
Well, right now I just can't wait for 2012... Great expectations to the development of Azariah Craulnober. I'm sure she'll be a great character, just like the other heroes and villains you brought to life, Mrs. Cunningham. |
"Goodness is not a natural state, but must be
fought for to be attained and maintained.
Lead by example.
Let your deeds speak your intentions.
Goodness radiated from the heart."
The Paladin's Virtues, excerpt from the "Quentin's Monograph"
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Ashe Ravenheart
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Posted - 18 Jun 2010 : 17:17:20
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... The Hobbit on theaters ... <snip>
That's not set in stone, especially as Guillermo del Toro has dropped from directing the film and they're looking for a new director.
But the novel is terrific news!! |
I actually DO know everything. I just have a very poor index of my knowledge.
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Elfinblade
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Posted - 18 Jun 2010 : 18:50:29
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| Congratulations Elaine! Wonderful news indeed! I believe a lot of people have been waiting for something like this for a while now, myself included. And we get to hear more from Elaith and his daughter no less! Glorious! |
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Barastir
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 18 Jun 2010 : 18:50:52
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Originally posted by Barastir
... The Hobbit on theaters ...
That's not set in stone, especially as Guillermo del Toro has dropped from directing the film and they're looking for a new director.
GOSH! Haven't seen THOSE news! (sigh) 
Mrs. Cunningham, will Serpent's Daughter be set in present 4e Realms? Or is it somewhere between the Spellplague and the present? |
"Goodness is not a natural state, but must be
fought for to be attained and maintained.
Lead by example.
Let your deeds speak your intentions.
Goodness radiated from the heart."
The Paladin's Virtues, excerpt from the "Quentin's Monograph"
(by Ed Greenwood) |
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Posted - 18 Jun 2010 : 21:26:45
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will look out for it, unless the Mayans interfere
which I hope they dont...... |
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Ashe Ravenheart
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Posted - 18 Jun 2010 : 21:40:39
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will look out for it, unless the Mayans interfere
which I hope they dont......
No worries. Her release is earlier in the year. Mayans* predict the world will end in December.
(*and by Mayans, I mean people that don't really understand the definition of the Mayan cycles and assume that since the calendar ends, the world ends. When actually, it's just a flip to a restart the calendar-although it will be the 'Sixth Age', which, as a Shadowrun fan, means I hope to see some Dragons & Elves ) |
I actually DO know everything. I just have a very poor index of my knowledge.
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Barastir
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 21 Jun 2010 : 12:05:47
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(*and by Mayans, I mean people that don't really understand the definition of the Mayan cycles and assume that since the calendar ends, the world ends. When actually, it's just a flip to a restart the calendar-although it will be the 'Sixth Age', which, as a Shadowrun fan, means I hope to see some Dragons & Elves )
Shadowrun's mix of fantasy and cyberpunk was a very original and well developed idea, it's a shame I didn't have a good GM to play with. Well, and it's a setting where it's even more of a challenge to play heroes without being affected by the world's harshness.
Changing subjects, my brother didn't found "Realms of Infamy" at home, but he found "Realms of Magic", and there's a short story with Liriel there. First one I'll read of her... And my brother will keep looking for the anthology of the infamous. |
"Goodness is not a natural state, but must be
fought for to be attained and maintained.
Lead by example.
Let your deeds speak your intentions.
Goodness radiated from the heart."
The Paladin's Virtues, excerpt from the "Quentin's Monograph"
(by Ed Greenwood) |
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Kajehase
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Posted - 21 Jun 2010 : 13:02:22
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Originally posted by Kyrene
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Originally posted by Kajehase
Wheee! *plays celebratory vuvuzela-fanfare*
Um... can you play a fanfare on a one-tone instrument? Other than a very boring one, that is.
[derail thread]
Are you here for the WC, Kajehase?
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[off the rail]
Afraid not. I have to make do with watching the games on the telly (with the sound off, those plastic horns are not that bad up close, but through a TV-speaker it's like having a blooming bee-swarm buzzing around the room).[back on the rail] |
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ElaineCunningham
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Posted - 21 Jun 2010 : 13:15:52
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Originally posted by Kajehase
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Originally posted by Kyrene
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Originally posted by Kajehase
Wheee! *plays celebratory vuvuzela-fanfare*
Um... can you play a fanfare on a one-tone instrument? Other than a very boring one, that is.
[derail thread]
Are you here for the WC, Kajehase?
[/derail thread]
[off the rail]
Afraid not. I have to make do with watching the games on the telly (with the sound off, those plastic horns are not that bad up close, but through a TV-speaker it's like having a blooming bee-swarm buzzing around the room).[back on the rail]
Rob King posted a limerick on Twitter that rhymed "vuvuzela" with "Methuselah." So I tossed one back at him:
Ella, the wife of Methuselah
Asked him to play her vuvuzela.
He gave it a shot
But he wasn't that hot,
And nothing he did could enthuse Ella.
Since then, I've learned that "vuvuzela" rhymes with "Venezuela," which throws a wrench into the limerick machinery. ::shrugs:: I'll get over it. In time. |
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