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Razz
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 25 Sep 2015 : 04:15:31
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Null was written out in 2E's "Cult of the Dragon" sourcebook. Since he is also Chronepsis and Falazure, wouldn't his entry be more suitable? |
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AuldDragon
Senior Scribe
USA
574 Posts |
Posted - 25 Sep 2015 : 05:06:00
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quote: Originally posted by Razz
Null was written out in 2E's "Cult of the Dragon" sourcebook. Since he is also Chronepsis and Falazure, wouldn't his entry be more suitable?
This project covers the whole 2e multiverse; as Null has an F&A entry but Chronepsis and Faluzure do not, they're in the project.
Jeff |
My 2nd Edition blog: http://blog.aulddragon.com/ My streamed AD&D Spelljamer sessions: https://www.youtube.com/user/aulddragon/playlists?flow=grid&shelf_id=18&view=50 "That sums it up in a nutshell, AuldDragon. You make a more convincing argument. But he's right and you're not." |
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AuldDragon
Senior Scribe
USA
574 Posts |
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AuldDragon
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574 Posts |
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AuldDragon
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574 Posts |
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AuldDragon
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LordofBones
Master of Realmslore
1538 Posts |
Posted - 02 Mar 2016 : 09:35:20
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Doesn't Garyx live in Pandemonium?
Also, for his breath weapon, I'd recommend giving him the benefits of 3.5e's Searing Spell metamagic feat, if only to show that Garyx's flame is so hot that it can burn even those immune to fire.
Also, why is he served by gehreleths? They're native to Carceri, and under the sway of Apomps and Nerull. You also seem to have missed out on including red dragons in his list of servitor creatures. |
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AuldDragon
Senior Scribe
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574 Posts |
Posted - 02 Mar 2016 : 20:16:04
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quote: Originally posted by LordofBones
Doesn't Garyx live in Pandemonium?
Also, for his breath weapon, I'd recommend giving him the benefits of 3.5e's Searing Spell metamagic feat, if only to show that Garyx's flame is so hot that it can burn even those immune to fire.
Also, why is he served by gehreleths? They're native to Carceri, and under the sway of Apomps and Nerull. You also seem to have missed out on including red dragons in his list of servitor creatures.
He was located in the Abyss throughout 2nd Edition (FOR1 Draconomicon and Cult of the Dragon). I don't know why it was changed in 3rd Edition. Overriding or reducing immunity might be a good thing for his breath weapon; I'll think about it a bit.
Most Gehreleths are subservient to Apomps, sure, but there are always some rogues. Races/creatures who worship a deity usually aren't included in the list of servitor creatures, which is why red dragons aren't listed.
Jeff |
My 2nd Edition blog: http://blog.aulddragon.com/ My streamed AD&D Spelljamer sessions: https://www.youtube.com/user/aulddragon/playlists?flow=grid&shelf_id=18&view=50 "That sums it up in a nutshell, AuldDragon. You make a more convincing argument. But he's right and you're not." |
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AuldDragon
Senior Scribe
USA
574 Posts |
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AuldDragon
Senior Scribe
USA
574 Posts |
Posted - 01 May 2016 : 05:48:24
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Rais, The Cogitative One: http://blog.aulddragon.com/2016/05/rais-the-cogitative-one/
Rais is another minor deity that was mentioned rather briefly in a single 2nd Edition product. In her case, she was created to be a deity for the dragons (particularly silver dragons) of the air world Edill in the Spelljammer supplement SJR6 Greyspace, which detailed the planets in the crystal sphere encompassing the Greyhawk setting. I developed her as a deity of philosophy and logic, with an emphasis on the truths and creative power of thought. While minor, she can prove to be a very interesting deity in a campaign.
Jeff |
My 2nd Edition blog: http://blog.aulddragon.com/ My streamed AD&D Spelljamer sessions: https://www.youtube.com/user/aulddragon/playlists?flow=grid&shelf_id=18&view=50 "That sums it up in a nutshell, AuldDragon. You make a more convincing argument. But he's right and you're not." |
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AuldDragon
Senior Scribe
USA
574 Posts |
Posted - 01 Jun 2016 : 08:45:02
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Faluzure the Night Dragon: http://bit.ly/1ZcdvtA
Faluzure is by far the most insidious evil of all the draconic gods. He longs for a multiverse that is beyond death; inhabited solely by the undead, and ruled by him and various forms of undead dragons. He stalks the planes, feeding off the life energy of the wisest and the best to power himself and his magic. If there is one force that could unite the good and evil members of dragon-kind, it is the Night Dragon.
Jeff |
My 2nd Edition blog: http://blog.aulddragon.com/ My streamed AD&D Spelljamer sessions: https://www.youtube.com/user/aulddragon/playlists?flow=grid&shelf_id=18&view=50 "That sums it up in a nutshell, AuldDragon. You make a more convincing argument. But he's right and you're not." |
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LordofBones
Master of Realmslore
1538 Posts |
Posted - 01 Jun 2016 : 11:37:36
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Awesome. It's nice to see you incorporated some of the undescribed powers attributed to Faluzure into his stat block; MM doesn't really elaborate on his growing powers over disease, for example.
Would you mind if I incorporated some of this into a Pathfinder statblock I'm working on for his avatar? |
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AuldDragon
Senior Scribe
USA
574 Posts |
Posted - 01 Jun 2016 : 21:22:11
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quote: Originally posted by LordofBones
Awesome. It's nice to see you incorporated some of the undescribed powers attributed to Faluzure into his stat block; MM doesn't really elaborate on his growing powers over disease, for example.
Would you mind if I incorporated some of this into a Pathfinder statblock I'm working on for his avatar?
Sure, go ahead! |
My 2nd Edition blog: http://blog.aulddragon.com/ My streamed AD&D Spelljamer sessions: https://www.youtube.com/user/aulddragon/playlists?flow=grid&shelf_id=18&view=50 "That sums it up in a nutshell, AuldDragon. You make a more convincing argument. But he's right and you're not." |
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VikingLegion
Senior Scribe
USA
483 Posts |
Posted - 01 Jun 2016 : 21:31:54
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quote: Originally posted by AuldDragon
Faluzure the Night Dragon: http://bit.ly/1ZcdvtA
Faluzure is by far the most insidious evil of all the draconic gods. He longs for a multiverse that is beyond death; inhabited solely by the undead, and ruled by him and various forms of undead dragons. He stalks the planes, feeding off the life energy of the wisest and the best to power himself and his magic. If there is one force that could unite the good and evil members of dragon-kind, it is the Night Dragon.
Jeff
Also he played a role in a really bad D&D movie. Perhaps saying "really bad" and "D&D movie" is redundant. |
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AuldDragon
Senior Scribe
USA
574 Posts |
Posted - 02 Jun 2016 : 10:41:44
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quote: Originally posted by VikingLegion
Also he played a role in a really bad D&D movie. Perhaps saying "really bad" and "D&D movie" is redundant.
I think I can safely say that's one source I have no problem ignoring. :D
I actually didn't realize he was in any of the movies, as I only ever saw the first one, and that one pretty much ensured I never saw any others. :)
Jeff |
My 2nd Edition blog: http://blog.aulddragon.com/ My streamed AD&D Spelljamer sessions: https://www.youtube.com/user/aulddragon/playlists?flow=grid&shelf_id=18&view=50 "That sums it up in a nutshell, AuldDragon. You make a more convincing argument. But he's right and you're not." |
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AuldDragon
Senior Scribe
USA
574 Posts |
Posted - 01 Jul 2016 : 08:08:34
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Task the Wrester: http://bit.ly/29aUTaK
Task is the deity of greed, the pure unadulterated avarice that particularly affects evil dragonkind. Whereas Astilabor represents the desire to acquire treasure for the status and utility a large hoard brings, Task represents the selfish desire to own wealth for the sake of wealth itself and the desire to take what others have simply to deprive them of it.
Jeff |
My 2nd Edition blog: http://blog.aulddragon.com/ My streamed AD&D Spelljamer sessions: https://www.youtube.com/user/aulddragon/playlists?flow=grid&shelf_id=18&view=50 "That sums it up in a nutshell, AuldDragon. You make a more convincing argument. But he's right and you're not." |
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AuldDragon
Senior Scribe
USA
574 Posts |
Posted - 01 Aug 2016 : 07:21:28
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Hlal the Jester: http://bit.ly/2aI5MoG
The draconic deity of humor and music, Hlal was detailed first in the Forgotten Realms accessory FOR1 Draconomicon; but with the release of The Cult of the Dragon accessory, she was described as an aspect of Aasterinian due to the similarity between the two deities. I decided to split the two up as was done in 3rd Edition, in part because Hlal fills the empty niche of a Chaotic Good power in the pantheon, which was lacking without her presence. I kept their similarity as an element of her mythos, however, so those who wish to merge them can do so.
Jeff |
My 2nd Edition blog: http://blog.aulddragon.com/ My streamed AD&D Spelljamer sessions: https://www.youtube.com/user/aulddragon/playlists?flow=grid&shelf_id=18&view=50 "That sums it up in a nutshell, AuldDragon. You make a more convincing argument. But he's right and you're not." |
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TBeholder
Great Reader
2430 Posts |
Posted - 04 Aug 2016 : 02:37:22
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quote: Originally posted by AuldDragon
Hlal the Jester: http://bit.ly/2aI5MoG
Nice. Maybe too long "Allies" row, but why not, better list too much than too little.
quote: in part because Hlal fills the empty niche of a Chaotic Good power in the pantheon, which was lacking without her presence.
Since there are CG dragons, that was lacking indeed. |
People never wonder How the world goes round -Helloween And even I make no pretense Of having more than common sense -R.W.Wood It's not good, Eric. It's a gazebo. -Ed Whitchurch |
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AuldDragon
Senior Scribe
USA
574 Posts |
Posted - 04 Aug 2016 : 08:25:38
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quote: Originally posted by TBeholder
quote: Originally posted by AuldDragon
Hlal the Jester: http://bit.ly/2aI5MoG
Nice. Maybe too long "Allies" row, but why not, better list too much than too little.
She's one of the few deities that has expanded her following outside of dragonkind, and is by far the most social. The only one I think would have a comparable social/alliance network is Bahamut, and the only other deity who has expanded outside of dragons (besides Bahamut) is Tiamat. Most other dragon deities just have alliances with other dragon deities, and one or two like-minded non-dragon deities.
quote: Originally posted by TBeholder
quote: Originally posted by AuldDragon
in part because Hlal fills the empty niche of a Chaotic Good power in the pantheon, which was lacking without her presence.
Since there are CG dragons, that was lacking indeed.
True, but there's also an established theme in FOR1 Draconomicon that dragons kind of merge different deity ethoses in their own worldview; for example, many LG dragons look to LN Lendys for justice, and add NG Tamara for her mercy and temperance. However, with all of the unique Draconomicon, Monster Mythology, and other published deities, it makes that one lack more obvious (using just one source or another, there are a number of other gaps). I see dragon clergy as a very small minority of dragons overall, with the majority of dragons following deities who cover their preferred interests; for example, gold or silver dragons with interests in history and learning may have an affinity for Arcanic, without conforming to his LN nature, or silver dragons who particularly love living among humans having an affinity for Hlal, while maintaining their LG alignment, and so forth.
But, as I said, the gap was pretty glaring, especially with the expanded pantheon I've assembled. The pantheon as it stands consists of 2 LGs, 1 NG, 1 CG, 2 LNs, 4 Ns, 4 CNs, 1 LE, 2 NEs, and 2 CEs. It's pretty heavily weighted towards Neutrality and Chaotic Neutrality, even though those are comparatively rare draconic alignments, which I think adds a fascinating aspect to the pantheon. It's also probably one reason dragons tend to be a force for chaos in the world. :)
Jeff |
My 2nd Edition blog: http://blog.aulddragon.com/ My streamed AD&D Spelljamer sessions: https://www.youtube.com/user/aulddragon/playlists?flow=grid&shelf_id=18&view=50 "That sums it up in a nutshell, AuldDragon. You make a more convincing argument. But he's right and you're not." |
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AuldDragon
Senior Scribe
USA
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AuldDragon
Senior Scribe
USA
574 Posts |
Posted - 01 Oct 2016 : 07:53:42
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Tamara the Merciful: http://bit.ly/2dMW2KH
Tamara was one of the members of the draconic pantheon presented in FOR1 Draconomicon. In her role as a goddess of life and forgiveness, she is favored by many good dragons, while most dragons call on her blessing at some point in their lives when looking for mates, and later for her protection of their eggs and hatchlings. She is the consort of Lendys, and tries to moderate his harsh form of justice.
Jeff |
My 2nd Edition blog: http://blog.aulddragon.com/ My streamed AD&D Spelljamer sessions: https://www.youtube.com/user/aulddragon/playlists?flow=grid&shelf_id=18&view=50 "That sums it up in a nutshell, AuldDragon. You make a more convincing argument. But he's right and you're not." |
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AuldDragon
Senior Scribe
USA
574 Posts |
Posted - 01 Nov 2016 : 22:32:48
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Kereska Wonderbringer: http://bit.ly/2fbhbMv
Kereska is the energetic deity of magic within the draconic pantheon, who is said to have taught dragons how to harness the innate magical powers Io infused in them at the time of creation. She delights in magical creativity and blesses those dragons undertaking magical research and creation.
Jeff |
My 2nd Edition blog: http://blog.aulddragon.com/ My streamed AD&D Spelljamer sessions: https://www.youtube.com/user/aulddragon/playlists?flow=grid&shelf_id=18&view=50 "That sums it up in a nutshell, AuldDragon. You make a more convincing argument. But he's right and you're not." |
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AuldDragon
Senior Scribe
USA
574 Posts |
Posted - 01 Dec 2016 : 19:03:49
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Bahamut the Platinum Dragon: http://bit.ly/2gcEmW6
Bahamut is the lord of metallic dragons, and one of the greatest forces for good in the multiverse. He is a wise being, and a paragon of enlightened justice, the melding of mercy and forgiveness with just punishment. He is the template many metallic dragons strive to emulate, especially silvers, golds, and bronzes.
Jeff |
My 2nd Edition blog: http://blog.aulddragon.com/ My streamed AD&D Spelljamer sessions: https://www.youtube.com/user/aulddragon/playlists?flow=grid&shelf_id=18&view=50 "That sums it up in a nutshell, AuldDragon. You make a more convincing argument. But he's right and you're not." |
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Elren_Wolfsbane
Learned Scribe
USA
111 Posts |
Posted - 02 Dec 2016 : 09:44:17
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Wow, this is amazing. Good job |
Aa' lasser en`coialle n`natula brown.
(May the leaves of your life tree never turn brown)
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AuldDragon
Senior Scribe
USA
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Darkmeer
Senior Scribe
USA
505 Posts |
Posted - 24 Dec 2016 : 05:03:45
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I've wandered the thread, and I very much appreciate all the work you've put into this. Excellent work, and, please, do continue! |
"These people are my family, not just friends, and if you want to get to them you gotta go through ME." |
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AuldDragon
Senior Scribe
USA
574 Posts |
Posted - 25 Dec 2016 : 07:37:09
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quote: Originally posted by Darkmeer
I've wandered the thread, and I very much appreciate all the work you've put into this. Excellent work, and, please, do continue!
Thanks! I have no plans of stopping, although I can usually only get one finished per month. Keep an eye on the thread in a week for a new entry!
Jeff |
My 2nd Edition blog: http://blog.aulddragon.com/ My streamed AD&D Spelljamer sessions: https://www.youtube.com/user/aulddragon/playlists?flow=grid&shelf_id=18&view=50 "That sums it up in a nutshell, AuldDragon. You make a more convincing argument. But he's right and you're not." |
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AuldDragon
Senior Scribe
USA
574 Posts |
Posted - 01 Jan 2017 : 07:15:15
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Io the Ninefold Dragon: http://bit.ly/2iuNgmv
Wrapping up the draconic deities is the creator of all dragonkind himself, Io. Much like Annam, he is said to be the creator of the universe, wherein other deities have built their own worlds and own races. He is an experimental deity, tweaking dracoform species and their environments in order to produce unique combinations. Despite his experimentality, he is not a particularly active deity, preferring watching to interfering.
Jeff |
My 2nd Edition blog: http://blog.aulddragon.com/ My streamed AD&D Spelljamer sessions: https://www.youtube.com/user/aulddragon/playlists?flow=grid&shelf_id=18&view=50 "That sums it up in a nutshell, AuldDragon. You make a more convincing argument. But he's right and you're not." |
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Darkmeer
Senior Scribe
USA
505 Posts |
Posted - 01 Jan 2017 : 19:39:26
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Excellent writeup on Io, AuldDragon! That's a lot of work to get that right, and I think you did a most excellent job! |
"These people are my family, not just friends, and if you want to get to them you gotta go through ME." |
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AuldDragon
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