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swifty
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Posted - 08 Apr 2011 :  17:04:00  Show Profile  Visit swifty's Homepage Send swifty a Private Message
i enjoyed the first half of the book more than the second.

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Alisttair
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Posted - 08 Apr 2011 :  18:40:17  Show Profile  Visit Alisttair's Homepage Send Alisttair a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by swifty

i enjoyed the first half of the book more than the second.



So did you regard it as Glass Half Empty or Glass Half Full??

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swifty
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Posted - 09 Apr 2011 :  08:27:25  Show Profile  Visit swifty's Homepage Send swifty a Private Message
more a case of the first half was like a vintage wine from one of waterdeeps finer drinking establishments but the second half was more like something youd be served up in skullport.

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The Red Walker
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Posted - 10 Apr 2011 :  13:36:05  Show Profile Send The Red Walker a Private Message
Finishing up Danilo tales with Dreamspheres.

A little nonsense now and then, relished by the wisest men - Willy Wonka

"We need men who can dream of things that never were." -

John F. Kennedy, speech in Dublin, Ireland, June 28, 1963
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BARDOBARBAROS
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Posted - 10 Apr 2011 :  13:50:24  Show Profile  Visit BARDOBARBAROS's Homepage Send BARDOBARBAROS a Private Message
I finished the Elminster:The making of a mage..A good book but not excellent...I start the Elminster in Myth Drannor...

BARDOBARBAROS DOES NOT KILL.
HE DECAPITATES!!!


"The city changes, but the fools within it remain always the same" (Edwin Odesseiron- Baldur's gate 2)
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Dennis
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Posted - 15 Apr 2011 :  12:36:02  Show Profile Send Dennis a Private Message

I finished The Shadow Stone a few hours ago. Good story, but hardly brilliant---there are too many scenes that are so predictable.

Aeron is well-fleshed out. But there's something missing in him that disables him to shine like other known wizards such as Elminster, Khelben, and Bastun, who like him, only has a one-novel exposure. I think it's that sense of mystery that permeates the core of a charter and reflects in his decisions. Like the story, Aeron is predictable.

Oriseus is a "good" villain. He should have been given more "screen time." One wonders, if the Imaskarans still live in the current century and wield the power of the Shadow Stone, what will happen to Shade?

Telemachon restores my respect for diviners. I like that deftly modified phantasm spell he arranged to be activated at the precisely foreseen time.

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Alisttair
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Posted - 15 Apr 2011 :  13:23:08  Show Profile  Visit Alisttair's Homepage Send Alisttair a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by swifty

more a case of the first half was like a vintage wine from one of waterdeeps finer drinking establishments but the second half was more like something youd be served up in skullport.



Hey, some stuff tastes good in Skullport (if you're a bottom-feeding denizen that is).

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Alisttair
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Posted - 15 Apr 2011 :  13:24:12  Show Profile  Visit Alisttair's Homepage Send Alisttair a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Dennis


I finished The Shadow Stone a few hours ago. Good story, but hardly brilliant---there are too many scenes that are so predictable.

Aeron is well-fleshed out. But there's something missing in him that disables him to shine like other known wizards such as Elminster, Khelben, and Bastun, who like him, only has a one-novel exposure. I think it's that sense of mystery that permeates the core of a charter and reflects in his decisions. Like the story, Aeron is predictable.

Oriseus is a "good" villain. He should have been given more "screen time." One wonders, if the Imaskarans still live in the current century and wield the power of the Shadow Stone, what will happen to Shade?

Telemachon restores my respect for diviners. I like that deftly modified phantasm spell he arranged to be activated at the precisely foreseen time.



Predictable can be good.

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Dennis
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Posted - 16 Apr 2011 :  01:34:42  Show Profile Send Dennis a Private Message

In this novel's case, I say half of the time.

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Dennis
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Posted - 16 Apr 2011 :  05:22:27  Show Profile Send Dennis a Private Message

Now trying to be tolerant to Whisper of Venom.

I stopped last month [and nearly tore the book] after seeing dragonborn here, dragonborn there.

May the God of Patience be with me all the way through...

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Dennis
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Posted - 18 Apr 2011 :  09:35:31  Show Profile Send Dennis a Private Message
Sorry, Richard, I really can't stand Whisper of Venom. I can't finish it, really can't. There are so many things going on [topped with dragonborn highlights] that I care less about.

On the lighter side, I'm now rereading The Siege by Try Denning for some very important research. I fervently wish Troy would write more Realms novels. I know he's happy with Star Wars, and most likely earn a lot more there than he did in FR; but I think the Realms needs a talent just like his.

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Alisttair
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Posted - 18 Apr 2011 :  12:01:38  Show Profile  Visit Alisttair's Homepage Send Alisttair a Private Message
Dennis, what is the % of realms novels you have enjoyed thus far??????

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Dennis
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Posted - 18 Apr 2011 :  12:46:18  Show Profile Send Dennis a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Alisttair

Dennis, what is the % of realms novels you have enjoyed thus far??????



I read more than half of the total number of Realms novels. Of them all, about 5% I didn't finish. Of the 95% I finished, there's about 5% I didn't enjoy. Add them; you'll have 10%.


***Unlike you, Alisttair, I can't read all the novels. As I expressed in the not so distant past, there are those I doggedly avoid.

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Alisttair
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Posted - 18 Apr 2011 :  15:51:20  Show Profile  Visit Alisttair's Homepage Send Alisttair a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Dennis

quote:
Originally posted by Alisttair

Dennis, what is the % of realms novels you have enjoyed thus far??????



I read more than half of the total number of Realms novels. Of them all, about 5% I didn't finish. Of the 95% I finished, there's about 5% I didn't enjoy. Add them; you'll have 10%.


***Unlike you, Alisttair, I can't read all the novels. As I expressed in the not so distant past, there are those I doggedly avoid.



I just noticed the hate (or general dislike) comments more so thought you only liked very few realms novels (negative always stands out more than positive it seems in all aspects of life).
Alas, I now no longer have read all of the novels, nor do I no longer even own them all, as I have yet to purchase and read the Abyssal Plague one now (we'll give that a few weeks as I balance my mentality).

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Dennis
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Posted - 19 Apr 2011 :  05:40:16  Show Profile Send Dennis a Private Message

It's been a year [or more] since I read Daughter of the Drow. And it's about time to read Tangled Webs. I'm now in Chapter 2 and I'm enjoying it so far.

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Alisttair
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Posted - 19 Apr 2011 :  12:06:38  Show Profile  Visit Alisttair's Homepage Send Alisttair a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Dennis


It's been a year [or more] since I read Daughter of the Drow. And it's about time to read Tangled Webs. I'm now in Chapter 2 and I'm enjoying it so far.



TYou're going through them as fast, if not faster, than I did before christmas

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Dennis
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Posted - 20 Apr 2011 :  05:48:23  Show Profile Send Dennis a Private Message

While juggling four GLBT novels, I find time rereading Red Magic. I miss Thay. The Old, arguably more fun and wicked Thay.

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Thieran
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Germany
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Posted - 20 Apr 2011 :  18:46:30  Show Profile Send Thieran a Private Message
I have just started The City of Splendors: A Waterdeep Novel, which so far has been ok overall and quite nice at conveying life in the city.
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Dennis
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Posted - 24 Apr 2011 :  11:35:32  Show Profile Send Dennis a Private Message

I'm now on Midnight's Mask by Paul S. Kemp. I've learned about Vhostym in several references, and in different threads here. But I want to know how exactly did he accomplish "those" things. So, even though I dislike Dawn of Night, I'm reading its sequel. I heard he had a fair amount of screen time in this book compared to its predecessor.

The prologue is interesting. It's nice to see Ssessimyth again.

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Thelonius
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Posted - 25 Apr 2011 :  14:45:05  Show Profile Send Thelonius a Private Message
Well finished reading Condemnation and after a short break reading Terry Pratchett's Faust Eric I'm gonna retake the reading of the WotSQ saga with Extinction

"If you are to truly understand, then you will need the contrast, not adherence to a single ideal." - Kreia
"I THINK I JUST HAD ANOTHER NEAR-RINCEWIND EXPERIENCE"- Discworld's Death frustrated after Rincewind scapes his grasp... again.
"I am death, come for thee" - Nimbul, from Baldur's Gate I just before being badly spanked
Sapientia sola libertas est
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swifty
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Posted - 08 May 2011 :  16:51:09  Show Profile  Visit swifty's Homepage Send swifty a Private Message
finally finished stardeep.not that i didnt enjoy it but ive been reading some true crime books recently.i definitely got a 2001 vibe from the book and am lookin forward to the abolethic sovereignty trilogy.

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Lewton
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Posted - 10 May 2011 :  22:23:27  Show Profile  Visit Lewton's Homepage Send Lewton a Private Message
Just finished Sword of the Gods. Probably the best Cordell novel I've read thus far. Sorry but I've tried reading The Abolethic Sovereignty. I've tried twice, made it through book one, 1/3 way through book 2 then totally lose steam. I just can't do it. I've read all of his other works, but just can't get into the Abolethic series. Please forgive me, I have tried.
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Tyrant
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Posted - 13 May 2011 :  20:09:51  Show Profile  Visit Tyrant's Homepage Send Tyrant a Private Message
I just finished Dawnbringer. I enjoyed it and I would read a follow up. The blurb on Amazon really doesn't do the book justice.

Now it's time to start digging into the mountain of older Realms books I have purchased on Ebay. I think I will start with Azure Bonds.

Edit: Finished Azure Bonds and I am now reading The Wyvern's Spur. I will round out the trilogy after that and then either start on The Harpers series or start going through Bruce Cordell's books (if the copy of Stardeep I bought ever gets here).

Peace is a lie, there is only passion. Through passion, I gain strength. Through strength, I gain power. Through power, I gain victory. Through victory, my chains are broken. The Force shall free me.
-The Sith Code

Teenage Sith zombies, Tulkh thought-how in the moons of Bogden had it all started? Every so often, the universe must just get bored and decide to really cut loose. -Star Wars: Red Harvest

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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 21 May 2011 :  16:33:48  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Tyrant

Edit: Finished Azure Bonds and I am now reading The Wyvern's Spur. I will round out the trilogy after that and then either start on The Harpers series or start going through Bruce Cordell's books (if the copy of Stardeep I bought ever gets here).



There is a Harpers book, Masquerade, which is a sequel to the Finder's Stone books. And Finder's Bane and Tymora's Luck tell new tales, but with one familiar character, and build on the Finder's Stone books.

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Tyrant
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Posted - 21 May 2011 :  19:20:52  Show Profile  Visit Tyrant's Homepage Send Tyrant a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by Tyrant

Edit: Finished Azure Bonds and I am now reading The Wyvern's Spur. I will round out the trilogy after that and then either start on The Harpers series or start going through Bruce Cordell's books (if the copy of Stardeep I bought ever gets here).



There is a Harpers book, Masquerade, which is a sequel to the Finder's Stone books. And Finder's Bane and Tymora's Luck tell new tales, but with one familiar character, and build on the Finder's Stone books.


Yeah I had been debating on if I should read through the Harper books in sequence (except Crown of Fire which I already read) or if I should sort them out into their respective sequences (like Elaine's books, for instance). I get the impression that they are stand alones (aside from when one logically follows another, as with Elaine's books) so is there much cross over anywhere where it isn't obvious? In other words, will I miss anything by reading them out of the 1-16 sequence, so long as I stick to any internal sequences? Hope that makes sense.

Peace is a lie, there is only passion. Through passion, I gain strength. Through strength, I gain power. Through power, I gain victory. Through victory, my chains are broken. The Force shall free me.
-The Sith Code

Teenage Sith zombies, Tulkh thought-how in the moons of Bogden had it all started? Every so often, the universe must just get bored and decide to really cut loose. -Star Wars: Red Harvest

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Wooly Rupert
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quote:
Originally posted by Tyrant

quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by Tyrant

Edit: Finished Azure Bonds and I am now reading The Wyvern's Spur. I will round out the trilogy after that and then either start on The Harpers series or start going through Bruce Cordell's books (if the copy of Stardeep I bought ever gets here).



There is a Harpers book, Masquerade, which is a sequel to the Finder's Stone books. And Finder's Bane and Tymora's Luck tell new tales, but with one familiar character, and build on the Finder's Stone books.


Yeah I had been debating on if I should read through the Harper books in sequence (except Crown of Fire which I already read) or if I should sort them out into their respective sequences (like Elaine's books, for instance). I get the impression that they are stand alones (aside from when one logically follows another, as with Elaine's books) so is there much cross over anywhere where it isn't obvious? In other words, will I miss anything by reading them out of the 1-16 sequence, so long as I stick to any internal sequences? Hope that makes sense.




It makes sense, and no, not really.

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Dennis
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Posted - 22 May 2011 :  03:39:25  Show Profile Send Dennis a Private Message
Tyrant,

They are stand alone, but some evolved into their own series, like Shandril's saga. I'm not a fan of reading in sequence. I read whatever is available at the moment. Heh, I've read quite a number of FR series without following their order. WotSQ: Book 5, then 1. Haunted Lands: Book 3, then 1&2. Shandril Saga: Book 2. Empyrean Odyssey: Book 2. Avatar series: Books 2, 3, 5...

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Tyrant
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Thanks Wooly and Dennis. I was inclined to read them in sequence, but I thought I should double check because my alternate plan was to read Elaine's books first (along with Dream Spheres and Evermeet). The impression that I get is that I missing out by having not read those yet. And I would like to be sure that I have them read by the time her next book is released. I know that's a little ways off but my stack of unread FR books is about 80 books deep right now and I don't read super ultra fast.

Dennis, I've only read two books out of order that I know of (in general) and I prefer to read them in order if I can. It's tricky with FR books (or other shared worlds that have books in multiple time periods, like Star Wars) because some books can referrence other books without appearing to be connected. In cases like that, I don't mind if I don't know about it beforehand. If I do know, I try to read them in order so I "get" whatever is being referrenced. Right now, for instance, I am waiting for my copy of Stardeep to arrive (if it ever does) so I can read through Darkvision, Stardeep, Abolethic Sovereignty, then Sword of the Gods because as I understand it there are some threads connecting various points of those books.

Peace is a lie, there is only passion. Through passion, I gain strength. Through strength, I gain power. Through power, I gain victory. Through victory, my chains are broken. The Force shall free me.
-The Sith Code

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Wooly Rupert
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quote:
Originally posted by Tyrant

Thanks Wooly and Dennis. I was inclined to read them in sequence, but I thought I should double check because my alternate plan was to read Elaine's books first (along with Dream Spheres and Evermeet). The impression that I get is that I missing out by having not read those yet. And I would like to be sure that I have them read by the time her next book is released. I know that's a little ways off but my stack of unread FR books is about 80 books deep right now and I don't read super ultra fast.


It is my oft-stated opinion that when it comes to Realms novels, you can't go wrong with Elaine or with the writing duo of Kate Novak and Jeff Grubb.

quote:
Originally posted by Tyrant

Dennis, I've only read two books out of order that I know of (in general) and I prefer to read them in order if I can. It's tricky with FR books (or other shared worlds that have books in multiple time periods, like Star Wars) because some books can referrence other books without appearing to be connected. In cases like that, I don't mind if I don't know about it beforehand. If I do know, I try to read them in order so I "get" whatever is being referrenced. Right now, for instance, I am waiting for my copy of Stardeep to arrive (if it ever does) so I can read through Darkvision, Stardeep, Abolethic Sovereignty, then Sword of the Gods because as I understand it there are some threads connecting various points of those books.



I won't read a trilogy out of sequence, but I'm less concerned about reading other books out of sequence... For example, there are Realms novels I've not read in 10 or more years -- and others I read every year or two.

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Tyrant
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Posted - 25 May 2011 :  00:20:05  Show Profile  Visit Tyrant's Homepage Send Tyrant a Private Message
I finished The Wyvern's Spur and now I am on to Song of the Saurials. I'm still not positive which direction I am going to go in after these but the advice/insight has been helpful.

Peace is a lie, there is only passion. Through passion, I gain strength. Through strength, I gain power. Through power, I gain victory. Through victory, my chains are broken. The Force shall free me.
-The Sith Code

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