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Tarvin
Acolyte
Germany
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 Posted - 23 Apr 2004 : 05:23:15
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Hi I am searching infos of Phalorm, the Fall of Ammarindar, the Kindome of man and the rise of Secomber.
It would be great if somebody could help me
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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore
Australia
6689 Posts |
Posted - 23 Apr 2004 : 15:51:56
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Go here:
http://www.ericlboyd.com/dnd/history.html
and download the timeline. I'm sure it will be useful.
-- George Krashos
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"Because only we, contrary to the barbarians, never count the enemy in battle." -- Aeschylus |
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Shadowlord
Master of Realmslore
USA
1298 Posts |
Posted - 23 Apr 2004 : 16:01:56
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George is too modest. The timeline is his own creation.  |
The Chosen of Vhaeraun
"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri. |
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martynq
Seeker
United Kingdom
90 Posts |
Posted - 23 Apr 2004 : 16:39:35
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...and any reference the rest of us have found will certainly be mentioned by him in that document.
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Tarvin
Acolyte
Germany
3 Posts |
Posted - 23 Apr 2004 : 16:55:26
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it s a great document and I found a lot of usefull infos!!! but there is only a few of the fall of Ammarindar!! I only know that the deamons of HGK together with orcs shattered the poor dwarvs, which were lead by a goldhammer clan member but I think there must be more usefull infos about it????
p.s. George where did you find the infos about phalorm???? |
Edited by - Tarvin on 23 Apr 2004 19:50:09 |
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Arivia
Great Reader
Canada
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Posted - 23 Apr 2004 : 23:34:01
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*wonders if Tarvin's IP address ends with ipt.aol.com...*
The footnotes say that quite a bit of that information comes from notes George, Ed Greenwood, and Eric Boyd wrote...
You could try asking them... |
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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore
Australia
6689 Posts |
Posted - 24 Apr 2004 : 09:10:28
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The best info on Ammarindar is found in the old FR11 Dwarves Deep accessory. When I say 'best' I mean geographical borders, a few rulers (Azkuldar, Olaurin and Queen Helmma) and the fact that it made great adamantine armor. Unforunately the material there is too voluminous to type out here. Oh, and the other best source on Ammarindar is Eric Boyd's noggin and PC hard drive.
As for the info on Phalorm, well, Eric Boyd and I ... ahem ... made it up. It started out as a look at fixing the conundrums surrounding the Fallen Kingdom. Most of the creative input for Phalorm came from Eric and I was his trusty scribe, reference chaser and timeline writer. We used the material from FR11 as a base, a few tidbits from Ed and then searched every extant FR text to that point and basically fleshed out the bones. Along the way you often heard the waling and lamentation surrounding the discovery of yet another inconsistency.
I've always thought that Phalorm: The Realm of Three Crowns would have made a great sequel to the Cormanthyr ARCANE AGE accessory. I'd love to do it one day, but it's about 3rd on my "to do" list at the moment.
Of course when and if that day comes, I already have the first flavour piece:
"In unity, we proclaim the founding of glorious Phalorm, Realm of Three Crowns. This dawn has seen the sword, axe and arrow brought together for the salvation of our peoples. May this kingdom’s future be as long and bright as the hopes and dreams of all those gathered here today."
King Ruardh Lightshiver of Phalorm
Council of Axe and Arrow at the Laughing Hollow
Year of Trials Arcane (523 DR)
To me, Phalorm respresents a brief, shining echo of what was happening far to the east in Myth Drannor. However, because of its brief time on the face of Faerun (under a century) and the forces that caused it to come to be, it was a nation that was truer to its founding ideals and less affected by racial prejudice and internal dissension. IMHO it was a better example of a multi-race alliance than Myth Drannor ever was. But hey, I'm biased.
After we'd come up with Phalorm, Eric then began to sneak into the official FR continuity, firstly in Demihuman Deities, and then through Dragon and Dungeon. When FRCS was "in the works" we made sure that Phalorm/Fallen Kingdom and the Kingdom of Man were in it and "correct". Since then, it's been set in stone in Races of Faerun and no doubt future FR products will continue to include it.
-- George Krashos
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martynq
Seeker
United Kingdom
90 Posts |
Posted - 25 Apr 2004 : 21:43:45
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If you want anymore info about Ammarindar, I've also noted the following (mostly very brief) references... though you may well have found them.
There are references to Ammarindar throughout Hellgate Keep, in particular, its timeline notes the following:
-4100DR: Rise of the dwarven realm of Ammarindar.
882DR: Ascalhorn becomes Hellgate Keep. Ammarindar (and Eaerlann) fall.
1221DR: Tunnels are dug beneath Hellgate Keep to connect with the deep tunnels of Ammarindar.
The other references I can find are less substantial... about the most significant of them is the very brief note in Book 1 of Lands of Intrigue (p22) that the birth of Ammarindar (and other dwarven nations) came about due to dwarven migration northwards following the beginning of the fall of Shanatar.
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VEDSICA
Senior Scribe
USA
466 Posts |
Posted - 25 Apr 2004 : 23:47:58
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| I wish that there were novels out concerning the dwarves.Kind of like Elaine's Evermeet:Empire of Elves. |
LIFE,BIRTH,BLOOD,DOOM---THE HOLE IN THE GROUND IS COMING ROUND SOON----BLS |
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DDH_101
Master of Realmslore
Canada
1272 Posts |
Posted - 26 Apr 2004 : 02:47:13
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| The second book of the WotSQ series, Insurrection, mentions Ammarindar briefly. The army of the Sceptered One's Scourged Legions control the place now. |
"Trust in the shadows, for the bright way makes you an easy target." -Mask |
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khorne
Master of Realmslore
Finland
1073 Posts |
Posted - 11 Sep 2005 : 20:22:02
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Originally posted by DDH_101
The second book of the WotSQ series, Insurrection, mentions Ammarindar briefly. The army of the Sceptered One's Scourged Legions control the place now.
I hope that eventually the dwarves will reclaim great Ammarindar and kick Kaanyr Vhok out. |
If I were a ranger, I would pick NDA for my favorite enemy |
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hammer of Moradin
Senior Scribe
USA
758 Posts |
Posted - 12 Sep 2005 : 03:45:48
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| With the Thunder Blessing, the dwarves now have the numbers to not only reconquer the kingdom, but also the numbers to repopulate it after another generation or two. |
"Hurling himself upon his enemies, he terrified them with slaughter!"
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Candlekeep proverb: If a thing is said often enough, fools aplenty will believe it to be true. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 12 Sep 2005 : 04:05:14
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Originally posted by hammer of Moradin
With the Thunder Blessing, the dwarves now have the numbers to not only reconquer the kingdom, but also the numbers to repopulate it after another generation or two.
Ooh! And where can we read about the Thunder Blessing and its effects on the dwarven people? |
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Kajehase
Great Reader
Sweden
2104 Posts |
Posted - 12 Sep 2005 : 05:54:33
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| Hmm... The Wall Street Journal? |
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Alaundo
Head Moderator
United Kingdom
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Posted - 12 Sep 2005 : 07:58:04
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by hammer of Moradin
With the Thunder Blessing, the dwarves now have the numbers to not only reconquer the kingdom, but also the numbers to repopulate it after another generation or two.
Ooh! And where can we read about the Thunder Blessing and its effects on the dwarven people?
Well met
Hmmmm, indeed, I wonder. Mayhaps there is something written in the latest volume of The Candlekeep Compendium? |
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warlockco
Master of Realmslore
USA
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hammer of Moradin
Senior Scribe
USA
758 Posts |
Posted - 13 Sep 2005 : 03:51:36
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by hammer of Moradin
With the Thunder Blessing, the dwarves now have the numbers to not only reconquer the kingdom, but also the numbers to repopulate it after another generation or two.
Ooh! And where can we read about the Thunder Blessing and its effects on the dwarven people?
Slaps self on head.
I can't believe I missed that opportunity to promote this websites fine answer to this, what did Kajehase call it, Wall Street Compendium. |
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