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Dargoth
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 Posted - 19 Nov 2004 : 07:13:21
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A while ago I got an email from Alaundo about doing some articles for Candlekeep and after thinking about it I thought doing an unofficial FR NPC series of article a month (or updating some old ones from various sources) might no be a bad idea.
A below are a few ideas Ive been kicking around for characters for the articles
A Genocidial Orc hating Divine Champion of Hoar (Silver Marches)
A 1373/4 version of Dracondos the Red Wizard of Thay from the Curse of the Azure bonds PC game and RPG (Battledale)
A 1373/4 version of Neb the Child Killer from Baldurs gate games (Amn)
A Deathstalker and possiable Bhaalspawn leader of a Monk of the Long Death Monastary (Scardale)
A Half Orc Sparticus (Thay)
A Air Gensai Cleric of Auril (Neverwinter) December Winner
A Chosen of Leira
Which one do you guys like most?
Coments? Suggestions?
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Edited by - Dargoth on 01 Dec 2004 06:26:28
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Alaundo
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Kuje
Great Reader
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Posted - 19 Nov 2004 : 17:32:35
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| The air genesi would be my 1st choice. :) |
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Wood Elf Ranger
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 19 Nov 2004 : 17:47:27
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The Half-Orc Sparticus from Thay sounds very interesting to me. Really they are all great ideas and I would gladly include any of them in the Folk of Faer#361;n (NPC) article for the Candlekeep Compendium  |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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mauricio
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Posted - 19 Nov 2004 : 19:05:10
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I like the air genasi idea as well.  |
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Dracandos the Spellsage
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Posted - 19 Nov 2004 : 20:27:39
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interesting ideas. ive always been fond of the Red Wizards of Thay and expanding a bit on neb may be interresting as well. i like the genasi too though...too many to choose! just do them all! |
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Dargoth
Great Reader
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Posted - 20 Nov 2004 : 05:15:13
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The Half Genasi Cleric of Auril will be tied into to the Fire rescue plot and Rumour hook in the FRC
and Dracondos will be a ghost who appears in my Banites on the March campaign (now that my copies of Libris Mortis and Shing south have FINALLY arrived) |
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Brother Ezra
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 20 Nov 2004 : 12:23:30
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| All of the ideas sound interesting to me, but if I had to vote, I'd go with the half-orc Spartacus idea. Thayvian society has always been interesting to me. |
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Elrond Half Elven
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 20 Nov 2004 : 17:23:38
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I'd vote for the "A 1373/4 version of Neb the Child Killer from Baldurs gate games" Idea.
I feel this could be fleshed out quite nicely in addition you get to use the new copy of Libris Mortis.
Hanx
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hammer of Moradin
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 20 Nov 2004 : 17:28:38
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| Dargoth, with the abundance of authors here, have you thought about stating the characters from various novels, and/or products that, as you mentioned, could be updated? Once you do this, you could run it by the creators for an unofficial OK. |
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Dargoth
Great Reader
Australia
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Posted - 24 Nov 2004 : 05:47:38
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| Another idea Ive got is a Chosen of Leira |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 24 Nov 2004 : 06:06:58
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Originally posted by Dargoth
Another idea Ive got is a Chosen of Leira
Uh... She's been dead for years, killed by Cyric and Mask. How do you propose to pull this one off? |
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Dargoth
Great Reader
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Posted - 24 Nov 2004 : 06:21:27
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by Dargoth
Another idea Ive got is a Chosen of Leira
Uh... She's been dead for years, killed by Cyric and Mask. How do you propose to pull this one off?
Well it all ties in with my theory on how there are so many more gods with Chosen after the time of Troubles. In short almost all the gods left a chosen behind when the Time of Troubles ended ie the mortal body they invested with their power during ToT thi mortal body was in most cases returned to its on control after the god/goddess left but what effect did this godly possession have on a the mortal being for such a long period time (the ToT ran for 6-12 months) Id say that prolonged exposure would alter the body and make it semi divine even after the god ended the possession.
Leiras chosen is the goddess avatar from the Time of Troubles which could have survived her goddess death in much the same way that Gilgreams chosen managed to live on after that gods death |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 24 Nov 2004 : 08:40:16
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Originally posted by Dargoth
Well it all ties in with my theory on how there are so many more gods with Chosen after the time of Troubles. In short almost all the gods left a chosen behind when the Time of Troubles ended ie the mortal body they invested with their power during ToT thi mortal body was in most cases returned to its on control after the god/goddess left but what effect did this godly possession have on a the mortal being for such a long period time (the ToT ran for 6-12 months) Id say that prolonged exposure would alter the body and make it semi divine even after the god ended the possession.
Leiras chosen is the goddess avatar from the Time of Troubles which could have survived her goddess death in much the same way that Gilgreams chosen managed to live on after that gods death
Well, I can't seem to recall there being any lasting effect on Vartan hai Sylvar, who was Labelas Enoreth's avatar... Sure, Labelas paid a lot of attention to Vartan afterward, and hooked him up with some nifty stuff, but that was all after the fact and not a direct result of Vartan's body containing deific residue.
Still, I guess I could go with your idea.
As a notation to consider: in the Realmspace supplement, the people on Selūne were, oddly, devout Leira worshippers. I don't know if that's an angle you'd want to include for your character concept, but there it is. |
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tauster
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Posted - 24 Nov 2004 : 09:59:21
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
As a notation to consider: in the Realmspace supplement, the people on Selūne were, oddly, devout Leira worshippers. I don't know if that's an angle you'd want to include for your character concept, but there it is.
this one gives me a major headache. what would spelljamming folk encounter when landing on selune? in other words: what happened to all those devout leira-worshippers after the time of troubles???
- does any canon lore exist about that? (a minor question to me, but one worth asking)
- what ideas do other scribes have? (that“s what really interests me.)
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 24 Nov 2004 : 15:44:02
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Originally posted by tauster
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
As a notation to consider: in the Realmspace supplement, the people on Selūne were, oddly, devout Leira worshippers. I don't know if that's an angle you'd want to include for your character concept, but there it is.
this one gives me a major headache. what would spelljamming folk encounter when landing on selune? in other words: what happened to all those devout leira-worshippers after the time of troubles???
- does any canon lore exist about that? (a minor question to me, but one worth asking)
- what ideas do other scribes have? (that“s what really interests me.)
As I recall, the Leirans on Selūne were a pretty insular bunch, and not overly trusting of strangers. There were also paranoid about being discovered by Torilians...
Selūne is actually a nice place to live, with lots of forests and such, but a illusion placed by Leira herself makes it look like an uninhabited ball of rock -- much like our own moon.
What I do not recall ever reading is why Leira would have done that, or why the inhabitants of the moon would have worshipped someone other than the moon goddess...
As for what happened after the Time of Troubles, it's never been covered. For simplicity's sake, I'd leave the illusion in place.
As for the people... Well, you could have had a smooth time, with them continuing to worship Leira and Cyric answering their prayers. Or they could have found out about the death of their goddess, and a religious schism could have occurred. Some would have converted to Cyric, and others would have converted to other deities -- almost certainly Selūne would try to scarf up some worshippers.
Depending on the numbers, either a rough détente would have finally occurred, or one side would have been driven out. |
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Reefy
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Posted - 26 Nov 2004 : 02:57:23
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| I'll stick my oar in and say that the air genasi would be my first choice. |
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Maecenus of Westgate
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Posted - 26 Nov 2004 : 18:32:55
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I think you should do all of them as they are all great ideas but if I had to choose, i'd say the Chosen of Leira and the Half-Orc Spartacus are both equally interesting.
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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Posted - 29 Nov 2004 : 15:15:39
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
I vote for the genasi, as well. But that's because I like genasi. 
I'll put my vote in for this as well. The Realms can never have enough genasi characters...
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tauster
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Posted - 30 Nov 2004 : 16:58:02
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my vote goes to the chosen of leira.
really. ;) |
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Dargoth
Great Reader
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Posted - 01 Dec 2004 : 06:25:07
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Ok the Air Genasi wins
Hopefully Ill have it to Alaundo by mid December
you can now vote again for the one I submit for January |
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Alaundo
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Dargoth
Great Reader
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Posted - 19 Dec 2004 : 22:57:22
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Originally posted by Alaundo
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Originally posted by Dargoth
Ok the Air Genasi wins
Hopefully Ill have it to Alaundo by mid December
you can now vote again for the one I submit for January
Well met
Oh splendid, Dargoth. Yet more lore I'll certainly look forward to this piece.
For those wondering where this articles got to: Im currently waiting for James Lowder to return to the boards to see if he has any furthur info on the Cult of Frost.
Also after examining the Air Genasi race Ive found they make lousy clerics (-2 Wis -Cha) so the NPC will be an Air Genasi Wizard instead |
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Kentinal
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Posted - 19 Dec 2004 : 23:14:32
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Originally posted by Dargoth
Also after examining the Air Genasi race Ive found they make lousy clerics (-2 Wis -Cha) so the NPC will be an Air Genasi Wizard instead
Not as much a problem staying with a Cleric, as Wis can be increased by leveling. Even taking the average result of a 4d6 stat array Cleric would have Wis 11 (after adjustment) taking the highest would start with 13 and not counting magic certainly can get spell casting up to level 6 by 12 level.
The Cha penality hurts with undead but it also should follow that only those with the stats would select such a path. i.e. higher then average stats in Wis and Cha, taking a hit someplaceelse to compensate. |
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Dargoth
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Posted - 19 Dec 2004 : 23:52:14
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Originally posted by Kentinal
Not as much a problem staying with a Cleric, as Wis can be increased by leveling. Even taking the average result of a 4d6 stat array Cleric would have Wis 11 (after adjustment) taking the highest would start with 13 and not counting magic certainly can get spell casting up to level 6 by 12 level.
The Cha penality hurts with undead but it also should follow that only those with the stats would select such a path. i.e. higher then average stats in Wis and Cha, taking a hit someplaceelse to compensate.
Actually the Wizard works out alot better for what Ive gotr background and motivation. |
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Alparon
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Posted - 21 Dec 2004 : 16:53:52
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i would like to hear about the Solaufein guy(in BG2)
i think he was an interesting character
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a chosen of leira(like lord Chess)
not impressive
she is dead and will remain dead (hopefully, if it goes like this we may see Myrkul return also the guys at the Forgotten Realms Dept. are going nuts eheheheh) |
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