| Author |
 Topic  |
|
|
Borch
Acolyte
Germany
21 Posts |
 Posted - 13 Feb 2005 : 10:56:51
|
Richard Baker has mentioned, on his Ask Richard Baker thread over at WotC, that they got something in store for the good guys of the Realms!
So now I sit here guessing just what kind of book that could be. As it will be out 4th quarter of 2005 at the earliest, I'm really curious.
I have always wanted a book on the goodly groups and organizations of the Realms as they were mostly neglected.
So, lets guess together.
What might be inside this book? Will it be the long discussed "Lords of Light"?
Who might be featured, apart from the obvious (Harpers, Moonstars, Lords Alliance)?
|
Sprich aus der Ferne,
heimliche Welt,
die sich so selten
zu mir gesellt |
|
|
Dargoth
Great Reader
Australia
4607 Posts |
Posted - 13 Feb 2005 : 15:08:19
|
I wonder if it will be a mirror of Lords of Darkness or Champions of Ruin...
As for groups
Harpers
Moonstars
Emerald Enclave
Various Paladin and Monk orders of Good Gods |
“I am the King of Rome, and above grammar”
Emperor Sigismund
"Its good to be the King!"
Mel Brooks |
 |
|
|
Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36875 Posts |
Posted - 13 Feb 2005 : 15:20:50
|
| It would be nice to see the white hats get a Lords of Darkness-type supplement... I'm particularly interested in the current status of the Tel'Teukiira. |
Candlekeep Forums Moderator
Candlekeep - The Library of Forgotten Realms Lore
http://www.candlekeep.com -- Candlekeep Forum Code of Conduct
I am the Giant Space Hamster of Ill Omen!  |
|
|
|
Gerath Hoan
Learned Scribe
United Kingdom
152 Posts |
Posted - 13 Feb 2005 : 16:14:49
|
I think that given Ed's slight hints (on his questions thread and the best of the realms thread) and with certain NDA warnings given on his thread we may get the long awaited updated Cormyr regional accessory.
I think its a much requested piece, both by fans and FR designers and it is definitely due a release in the next year or two. |
Knight of the Order of the Keen Eye - Granted by Ed Greenwood, 30th January 2005 |
|
|
|
SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
5517 Posts |
Posted - 13 Feb 2005 : 16:40:51
|
quote:
Originally posted by Borch
Richard Baker has mentioned, on his Ask Richard Baker thread over at WotC, that they got something in store for the good guys of the Realms!
Can you post a link to the post where he makes this reference?
Thanks. |
|
|
|
Gray Richardson
Master of Realmslore
USA
1291 Posts |
Posted - 13 Feb 2005 : 17:54:39
|
My best guess is that just as Champions of Ruin is supposed to be an exploration of playing evil in the Realms, sort of a Realms version of Book of Vile Darkness, I speculate that the "good guy" book he's talking about just might be a sort of Book of Exalted Deeds style companion piece to Champions of Ruin that explores playing good in the Realms.
As to the contents, well it might have information about the chosen of Mystra, the Magister, the Harpers, Moonstars and other good organizations. Information on paladin and divine champion orders would be in order. It might feature select celestial lords, proxies, or paragons.
I think such a book would be a great idea, and I would surely buy it!  |
|
|
|
Borch
Acolyte
Germany
21 Posts |
Posted - 13 Feb 2005 : 18:18:54
|
Well Sirious.
I would have done so when I opened the topic but for some reason the wizards boards are off limits for me, meaning they won't load anymore.
Just before typing this I had a waiting time of about 15 minutes until my machine told me "the document contains no data" while trying to connect to the boards.
He mentioned it in response to someone asking about a book on good organizationson on the thread where he answers questions if I remember correctly.
As soon as I can connect to the thread I shall post a link, but it is really just a small sentence saying something like "we got something in store for the good guys".
Hope that helps.
|
Sprich aus der Ferne,
heimliche Welt,
die sich so selten
zu mir gesellt |
Edited by - Borch on 13 Feb 2005 18:20:37 |
|
|
|
SirUrza
Master of Realmslore
USA
1283 Posts |
Posted - 14 Feb 2005 : 02:12:29
|
I wish they'd do a Hero's Lorebook. :(
|
"Evil prevails when good men fail to act."
The original and unapologetic Arilyn, Aribeth, Seoni Fanboy. |
|
|
|
Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
7106 Posts |
Posted - 14 Feb 2005 : 03:29:51
|
I'd like a Hero's Lorebook myself, but at the same time I'm still going to try to get the old one...
Anyway, a part of me prefers to read more stuff about "bad guys". |
"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
--Richard Greene (letter to Time) |
|
|
|
The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore
5056 Posts |
Posted - 14 Feb 2005 : 05:50:29
|
From certain hints Ed's dropped at our Realmsplay sessions, I don't think any Cormyr sourcebook can be that close to being published.
My bet would be a Champions of Ruin good-guys-equivalent.
love to all,
THO |
|
|
|
Thomas M. Reid
Forgotten Realms Designer & Author
334 Posts |
Posted - 14 Feb 2005 : 13:26:18
|
quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One
My bet would be a Champions of Ruin good-guys-equivalent.
**nonchalantly whistles a tune as he continues to work on his current freelance contract.** |
"A knight is not truly virtuous, only truly resolved to be so."
www.thomasmreid.com |
|
|
|
Ty
Learned Scribe
USA
168 Posts |
Posted - 14 Feb 2005 : 15:30:31
|
Although a Cormyr sourcebook would be very nice (well, almost any regional sourcebook would be good simply because the last four have been fantastic), I think that a goody-goody two-boots book would be a must have for my campaign as well.
*Rules Rant On*
As an aside, although we know about the Harpers and their fluffy stuff, I'm not at all pleased with the current state of the 'rules' supporting Harpers; what with Harper Agents, Harper Paragons, Harper Mages, Harper Priests, etc. etc.  Please, for the love of the miniature giant hamsters that Wooly keeps in his pockets, can someone definitively clear up my player's confusions. 
*Rules Rant Off* 
Back on topic, I hope that if they do touch on good organizations, we can finally get some fluffy info on the Knights of Barakmordin, the caravan group that might be a front for the Harpers (forget the name) and see some real development of a lot of groups that fall by the wayside. Thumpers of the Thumpers, 12 Lords of Imphras a'leaping, etc. 
That was a nice bit of poking Mr. Reid with a stick but I'll leave it at that. *poke poke*
|
|
|
|
Gray Richardson
Master of Realmslore
USA
1291 Posts |
Posted - 14 Feb 2005 : 17:44:48
|
quote:
Originally posted by Thomas M. Reid
**nonchalantly whistles a tune as he continues to work on his current freelance contract.**
What's that faint whistling I hear in the air? Ah, sounds like a joyous tune indeed! It bodes of wonderous things on the horizon! |
|
|
|
Reefy
Senior Scribe
United Kingdom
892 Posts |
Posted - 14 Feb 2005 : 20:54:19
|
I would like to see a book on the good guys but preferably in a Lords of Darkness style. I'm not sold on Champions of Ruin by any stretch of the imagination to be honest.
And of course any regional book would be great. |
Life is either daring adventure or nothing. |
|
|
|
George Krashos
Master of Realmslore
Australia
6680 Posts |
Posted - 14 Feb 2005 : 23:10:06
|
I'm guessing that a "good guys" book would be more in the style of Lords of Darkness than Champions of Ruin - the latter focuses on evil campaigns and how to play/portray evil in the Realms from what I've seen and read.
And I'm thrilled that Thomas Reid is on board - it all augurs well. Of course, he may have a partner in crime - SKR asked on his website message boards a while back about good organisations of the Realms. Interesting ...
-- George Krashos
|
"Because only we, contrary to the barbarians, never count the enemy in battle." -- Aeschylus |
|
|
|
Reefy
Senior Scribe
United Kingdom
892 Posts |
Posted - 15 Feb 2005 : 02:06:02
|
quote:
Originally posted by George Krashos
I'm guessing that a "good guys" book would be more in the style of Lords of Darkness than Champions of Ruin - the latter focuses on evil campaigns and how to play/portray evil in the Realms from what I've seen and read.
And I'm thrilled that Thomas Reid is on board - it all augurs well. Of course, he may have a partner in crime - SKR asked on his website message boards a while back about good organisations of the Realms. Interesting ...
-- George Krashos
That sounds promising to me. |
Life is either daring adventure or nothing. |
|
|
|
The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31799 Posts |
Posted - 15 Feb 2005 : 04:18:16
|
quote:
Originally posted by George Krashos
I'm guessing that a "good guys" book would be more in the style of Lords of Darkness than Champions of Ruin - the latter focuses on evil campaigns and how to play/portray evil in the Realms from what I've seen and read.
As did I.
I'm glad such a concept is finally being worked up though, and Thomas M. Reid's involvement only makes it that much more superb, for me at least.
Speculation on the "good" organisations to be included are bound to follow.
|
Candlekeep Forums Moderator
Candlekeep - The Library of Forgotten Realms Lore
http://www.candlekeep.com -- Candlekeep Forum Code of Conduct
Scribe for the Candlekeep Compendium -- Volume IX now available (Oct 2007)
"So Saith Ed" -- the collected Candlekeep replies of Ed Greenwood
Zhoth'ilam Folio -- The Electronic Misadventures of a Rambling Sage |
|
|
|
KnightErrantJR
Great Reader
USA
5402 Posts |
Posted - 05 Mar 2005 : 05:11:56
|
| I think they went a bit overboard when they finally lifted the "villains can't win" restriction and in the original 3rd edition books only a handful of the "big guns" showed up. If nothing else, it would be nice to have some Harper/Moonstar agents that PCs could cozy up to in order to be sponsored, etc. |
|
|
|
Antareana
Seeker
Germany
59 Posts |
Posted - 16 Mar 2005 : 00:40:35
|
Well, I'd like to see infos about the Emerald enclave or special Paladin Organizations (Tantras would be an easy thought)
maybe ,maybe some things about the Seven Sisters because only three of them were really mentioned in the Campaign set
oh, and the name of the book is "champions of valor" if I remember correctly  |
It is all just a past and future secret
|
|
|
|
Melfius
Senior Scribe
USA
516 Posts |
Posted - 16 Mar 2005 : 01:51:10
|
Yes, it is Champions of Valor, due out 11/04/2005.
Talk about a nice surprise coming out of left field! |
Melfius, Pixie-Priest of Puck - Head Chef, The Faerie Kitchen, Candlekeep Inn
"What's in his pockets, besides me?"
Read a tale of my earlier days! - Happiness Comes in Small Packages |
|
|
|
SirUrza
Master of Realmslore
USA
1283 Posts |
Posted - 16 Mar 2005 : 06:04:12
|
Should I just be disappointed NOW instead of waiting till I get it about Arilyn and Danilo stats being excluded?
|
"Evil prevails when good men fail to act."
The original and unapologetic Arilyn, Aribeth, Seoni Fanboy. |
Edited by - SirUrza on 16 Mar 2005 06:04:32 |
|
|
|
Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36875 Posts |
Posted - 16 Mar 2005 : 11:29:32
|
quote:
Originally posted by SirUrza
Should I just be disappointed NOW instead of waiting till I get it about Arilyn and Danilo stats being excluded?
Well... If it covers the Harpers, it'll mention prominent ones. And Arilyn and Danilo are pretty prominent, to the fans... So I think it's safe to say we'll see at least a little stat blurb for them. |
Candlekeep Forums Moderator
Candlekeep - The Library of Forgotten Realms Lore
http://www.candlekeep.com -- Candlekeep Forum Code of Conduct
I am the Giant Space Hamster of Ill Omen! |
|
|
|
SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
5517 Posts |
Posted - 16 Mar 2005 : 17:10:00
|
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Well... If it covers the Harpers, it'll mention prominent ones. And Arilyn and Danilo are pretty prominent, to the fans... So I think it's safe to say we'll see at least a little stat blurb for them.
I'd be surprised if we get that and shocked at much more than a little blurb. After all, we're talking about characters that haven't been featured in any recent Realms novel for several years. |
|
|
|
elven_songstress
Learned Scribe
126 Posts |
Posted - 05 Apr 2005 : 21:48:09
|
| Hmm, but aren't they currently Moonstar's not Harpers I am wondering if there is going to be more information on the MoonStar's avaliable in the Upcoming Book on Waterdeep. |
We need to be reminded sometimes that a sunrise lasts but a few minutes,but its beauty can burnin our hearts eternally." |
|
|
|
Mareka
Learned Scribe
Canada
125 Posts |
Posted - 05 Apr 2005 : 22:09:07
|
quote:
Originally posted by elven_songstress
Hmm, but aren't they currently Moonstar's not Harpers I am wondering if there is going to be more information on the MoonStar's avaliable in the Upcoming Book on Waterdeep.
It would be truly awesome if that was the case. I much prefer the Moonstars to the traditional Harpers. |
|
|
|
Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36875 Posts |
Posted - 05 Apr 2005 : 23:12:33
|
quote:
Originally posted by elven_songstress
Hmm, but aren't they currently Moonstar's not Harpers I am wondering if there is going to be more information on the MoonStar's avaliable in the Upcoming Book on Waterdeep.
I don't recall reading that Arilyn and Danilo were Moonstars... Where is this information found? |
Candlekeep Forums Moderator
Candlekeep - The Library of Forgotten Realms Lore
http://www.candlekeep.com -- Candlekeep Forum Code of Conduct
I am the Giant Space Hamster of Ill Omen! |
|
|
|
SirUrza
Master of Realmslore
USA
1283 Posts |
Posted - 06 Apr 2005 : 04:45:38
|
quote:
Originally posted by SiriusBlack
I'd be surprised if we get that and shocked at much more than a little blurb. After all, we're talking about characters that haven't been featured in any recent Realms novel for several years.
And the one time of recent, the FRCS, Arilyn gets completely miscast as a Harper Scout.. which woulda been fine if it weren't for the fact that the class was a spellcaster class and completely opposite to her character. |
"Evil prevails when good men fail to act."
The original and unapologetic Arilyn, Aribeth, Seoni Fanboy. |
|
|
|
SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
5517 Posts |
Posted - 06 Apr 2005 : 04:51:05
|
quote:
Originally posted by SirUrza
which woulda been fine if it weren't for the fact that the class was a spellcaster class and completely opposite to her character.
other than that....what was wrong with it?  And yeah, that was a delight wasn't it? Made me instantly fall in love with PrC. |
|
|
| |
Topic |
|
Richard Baker's hint at a new book...
