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                      |  Posted - 03 Apr 2005 :  01:10:54           
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           	| My Players keep out as i may use this in a campaign 
 First a question
 
 
 Did Josidiah Starym loose Guenhwyvar's Onyx Panther figurine while in the Underdark searching for Artblade/Warblade or did he still have it when he died?
 
 If he still had it when he dies then between RA Salvatore and LEOF when may be able to determine who took the Artblade after Josidiah Starym died
 
 Guenhwyvar's owners
 
 Anders Beltgarden: Who created the figurine for his friend Josidiah Starym (See RAS short story in Realms of Magic)
 
 Josidiah Starym looses the figurine at some point
 
 Some how it gets from  Josidiah to this fiend (we dont have an official link)
 
 A "denizen of the lower planes" who gave it to the Faceless One a Drow wizard in Menzoberranzan
 
 The Faceless One was killed by Masoj Hun'ett
 
 Masoj Hun'ett was killed by everyones favourite Drow Ranger who has had the figurine pretty much ever since
 
 Now if Josidiah Starym did have the figurine when he died.......
 
 Josidiah Starym died defending a school of magic in Myth Drannor from an army of Yuggoloths when he died he was casting a spell which killed off most of the Yuggoloths, destroyed most of the school.
 
 Conjecture: The "denzien from the Lorwer planes" that gave the onyx panther figurine to the Faceless one was one of the Yuggoloths fighting Josidiah on the day he died. When Josidiah sacrificed himself the Yuggoloth grabbed Josidiahs corpse (including the Artblade and the Onxy Panther Figurine) and took it back to the Blood Rift.
 
 Which means the only "person" who may know where the Artblade is, is Guenhwyvar
 
 Coments?
 
 
 
 
 
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                | SiriusBlackGreat Reader
 
      
 
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                      |  Posted - 03 Apr 2005 :  01:38:39         
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                      | quote:Originally posted by Dargoth
 Which means the only "person" who may know where the Artblade is, is Guenhwyvar
 
 Coments?
 
 
 
 Does this mean I might have to read a Drizzt novel to see The Artblade retrieved by the Tel'Quessir?
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                      | Edited by - SiriusBlack on 03 Apr 2005  01:38:51
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                | George KrashosMaster of Realmslore
 
      
 
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                      |  Posted - 03 Apr 2005 :  02:04:10       
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                      | "Fall of Myth Drannor" (Timeline entry for 674 DR - pages.17-18) specifically notes that upon his return to the City of Songs he no longer walks with his magnificent cat Guenhwyvar, and it is rumored that he traded it for the Artblade. 
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                | DDH_101Master of Realmslore
 
     
 
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                      |  Posted - 03 Apr 2005 :  02:08:41         
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                      | 674/Year of the Nomad 
 Josidiah does not take up his rightful place as Lord-Speaker of House Starym, but he does (by right of the elf-blade he restores to Myth Drannor) take over the leadership of the Akh'Faer and thus rise to a seat on the Council of Twelve. Josidiah refuses to discuss it, but many notice that he no longer walks with his magnificent cat Guenhwyvar, and some whisper he had to trade the cat's figurine of power for the blade. Of his 12 original comrades, only one survived: Onas Ulondarr, an elf bladesinger of House Ulondarr. Returning to the city married to Maira Shieldark, a human wizardess of Arabel, they bring with them four adult half-elf children (three women, one man; all rangers): Alupiira, Vaeala, Shaeia, and Rahsil.
 
 This was from the timeline over at Forgotten Realms: The Library.
 
 I think that during his adventures in the Underdark, Josidiah had to make a deal with a fiend and I guess Guen was his bargaining chip.
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                      |  Posted - 03 Apr 2005 :  05:32:22       
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                      | As I've said before, I prefer to think that Josidiah losing the figurine and finding the Artblade were separate events. |  
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                | DargothGreat Reader
 
      
 
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                      |  Posted - 03 Apr 2005 :  07:37:04         
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                      | quote:Originally posted by George Krashos
 
 "Fall of Myth Drannor" (Timeline entry for 674 DR - pages.17-18) specifically notes that upon his return to the City of Songs he no longer walks with his magnificent cat Guenhwyvar, and it is rumored that he traded it for the Artblade.
 
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 Doh!
 
 Well thats disappointing, it would have fitted together so well..... hmmm I think I might have to use DMs Rule 101 when I run my elven campaign and say he didnt loose Guenhwyvar until his death
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                | Wooly RupertMaster of Mischief
 
  
      
 
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                      |  Posted - 03 Apr 2005 :  16:25:32       
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                      | quote:Originally posted by Dargoth
 
 
 quote:Originally posted by George Krashos
 
 "Fall of Myth Drannor" (Timeline entry for 674 DR - pages.17-18) specifically notes that upon his return to the City of Songs he no longer walks with his magnificent cat Guenhwyvar, and it is rumored that he traded it for the Artblade.
 
 -- George Krashos
 
 
 
 
 Doh!
 
 Well thats disappointing, it would have fitted together so well..... hmmm I think I might have to use DMs Rule 101 when I run my elven campaign and say he didnt loose Guenhwyvar until his death
 
 
 
 Well, the fact that he no longer walks with her doesn't mean he no longer has the figurine... There could be some reason he chose not to summon her. Perhaps he'd agreed to some pact preventing her summoning, or maybe she saw him do something he's ashamed of while in the Underdark, so he doesn't summon her because he doesn't want to see his shame reflected in her eyes.
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                      |  Posted - 03 Apr 2005 :  17:23:38         
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                      | I wonder if the aforementioned blade might be mentioned in The Last Mythal trilogy before the series is completed. |  
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