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Erik Scott de Bie
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Posted - 17 Aug 2005 :  16:52:43  Show Profile  Visit Erik Scott de Bie's Homepage Send Erik Scott de Bie a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
Honored Sages,

Herein, I wish to compile a scroll of the known children of the deities. Celestials and archfiends/demon princes work, too.

By its nature, there may be spoilers herein, so ye be warned!

Fire away, and wow us with your realmslore!

Also, in your expert opinion:

What race would the child of a deity be? The same as the mother? A half-celestial or half-fiend? What about if the deity is neutral in alignment?

Cheers

Erik Scott de Bie

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Author of a number of Realms novels (GHOSTWALKER, DEPTHS OF MADNESS, and the SHADOWBANE series), contributor to the NEVERWINTER CAMPAIGN GUIDE and SHADOWFELL: GLOOMWROUGHT AND BEYOND, Twitch DM of the Dungeon Scrawlers, currently playing "The Westgate Irregulars"

Kuje
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Posted - 17 Aug 2005 :  17:33:21  Show Profile Send Kuje a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well there's the Seven Sisters and they are human with elven blood and divine blood.

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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 17 Aug 2005 :  17:36:47  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Are you speaking of mortal and near-divine children, like the Seven Sisters, or deific children, like Eilistraee and Vhaeraun?

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DDH_101
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Posted - 17 Aug 2005 :  18:26:32  Show Profile  Visit DDH_101's Homepage Send DDH_101 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Since you mentioned archfiends could work, there's Magadon from the Erevis Cale trilogy who's the son of Mephistopheles and a human woman.

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khorne
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Posted - 17 Aug 2005 :  19:32:25  Show Profile  Visit khorne's Homepage Send khorne a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by DDH_101

Since you mentioned archfiends could work, there's Magadon from the Erevis Cale trilogy who's the son of Mephistopheles and a human woman.

Yes, I´ve wondered about that one. Magadon is not weak, but he is far weaker than I imagined the son of and archdevil to be, even if he is half human.

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Chosen of Moradin
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Posted - 17 Aug 2005 :  19:33:28  Show Profile  Visit Chosen of Moradin's Homepage Send Chosen of Moradin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
In Eric Boyd´s Powers and Pantheons are given the names of the mortal descendants of the manifestations of the Mulhorandi Pantheon.

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Erik Scott de Bie
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Posted - 17 Aug 2005 :  20:13:42  Show Profile  Visit Erik Scott de Bie's Homepage Send Erik Scott de Bie a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

Are you speaking of mortal and near-divine children, like the Seven Sisters, or deific children, like Eilistraee and Vhaeraun?



I meant mortal and near-divine children, indeed. Thanks for clarifying, good hamster.

khorne: Well, Magadon seems to be a tiefling, rather than a half-fiend, so that's why he seems about like a human or only slightly more powerful. I know -- it struck me as odd that a direct pairing between a devil (an archdevil no less) and a human produced a tiefling (you'd think it'd produce a half-fiend), but the vagaries of blood and heredity being what they are. . .

Think it indicates that his human blood is stronger than his devil blood? Or will he one day descend further into darkness and manifest true devilish powers? Only time (and Master Kemp) will tell.

Also Abdel Adrian, from the BG series -- son of Bhaal and a human woman. He doesn't seem to be a half-fiend at all -- something else entirely. Anyone know of a half-god template?

Not to mention other Bhaalspawn like Imoen and Sarevok. . . which I just did.

Others?

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Erik Scott de Bie

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Wooly Rupert
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I've always assumed that Iyachtu Xvim wasn't always a deity. He ruled Westgate for a time, and fought mortal adventurers... So it seems to me that for much of his life, he was, at best, near-divine. In fact, I don't think there's any mention of him being a deity until he woke up under Zhentil Keep.

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Erik Scott de Bie
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Posted - 18 Aug 2005 :  00:02:55  Show Profile  Visit Erik Scott de Bie's Homepage Send Erik Scott de Bie a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

I've always assumed that Iyachtu Xvim wasn't always a deity. He ruled Westgate for a time, and fought mortal adventurers... So it seems to me that for much of his life, he was, at best, near-divine. In fact, I don't think there's any mention of him being a deity until he woke up under Zhentil Keep.



Hmm. That's a good question. I assumed that as well, that he wasn't always a deity.

As a "mortal," he led an army (consisting at least partly of fiends or people with fiend powers) against Westgate, I believe, took over the city and ruled for a long time, before being deposed and -- then, I think -- imprisoned beneath Z.K.

So he was powerful, that we know. Epic, likely.

Was he a son of Bane, if he had a bit of Bane's divine essence?

Anyone got an official realmslore answer?

Cheers

Erik Scott de Bie

'Tis easier to destroy than to create.

Author of a number of Realms novels (GHOSTWALKER, DEPTHS OF MADNESS, and the SHADOWBANE series), contributor to the NEVERWINTER CAMPAIGN GUIDE and SHADOWFELL: GLOOMWROUGHT AND BEYOND, Twitch DM of the Dungeon Scrawlers, currently playing "The Westgate Irregulars"
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 18 Aug 2005 :  00:26:03  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie

quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

I've always assumed that Iyachtu Xvim wasn't always a deity. He ruled Westgate for a time, and fought mortal adventurers... So it seems to me that for much of his life, he was, at best, near-divine. In fact, I don't think there's any mention of him being a deity until he woke up under Zhentil Keep.



Hmm. That's a good question. I assumed that as well, that he wasn't always a deity.

As a "mortal," he led an army (consisting at least partly of fiends or people with fiend powers) against Westgate, I believe, took over the city and ruled for a long time, before being deposed and -- then, I think -- imprisoned beneath Z.K.

So he was powerful, that we know. Epic, likely.

Was he a son of Bane, if he had a bit of Bane's divine essence?

Anyone got an official realmslore answer?

Cheers



Well, he has been called the Baneson. And Faiths & Avatars does specifically call Bane his father.

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