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eomer
Acolyte
Russia
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 Posted - 26 Sep 2005 : 05:44:31
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Some more questions:
1. I've read in "Volo's Guide to Dalelands" that Deepingdale is named after Deeping princess. What does "Deeping" mean in this context?
2. Who was Vilhon? Or why Vilhon Reach is called like that?
3. Is Archenbridge called like that because bridge has arches or because it is across Archen river?
4. Why Farsea Marches are called like that?
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 26 Sep 2005 : 07:14:32
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1 -- The actual context for Imryll Eluarshee being the "Deeping Princess" refers to the geographical region... the Deeping Stream which is the area around which the Dale lies.
2 -- The 2e tome The Vilhon Reach states that the region received its name for the sea that surrounds it. As I recall, there isn't any particular details about who or what Vilhon was, if indeed the region was named after a person.
3 -- The river is called Arkhen. Perhaps over time, references to the town of "Arkhenbridge" were slowly changed to Archenbridge.
4 -- I recall a reference to a "Farsea Lake", so named before the dropping water levels left the region full of boggy marshes. Perhaps the "Farsea" name was derived from the lake's relative distance from the nearest body of water, in this case the Dragonmere -- it being "far from the sea".
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eomer
Acolyte
Russia
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Posted - 27 Sep 2005 : 12:35:27
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Thank you very much.
1. Is she realy named for the stream? That's strange. Is that stream going underground or deepening into earth?
2. that's a pity.
3. Understood
4. I thought like that, but wanted to verify :lol: |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 27 Sep 2005 : 14:44:44
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quote:
Originally posted by eomer
1. Is she realy named for the stream? That's strange. Is that stream going underground or deepening into earth?
Well, Deepingdale was founded and named for Imryll Eluarshee, and we know she was of the royal blood of Cormanthyr. The Deeping Princess was a title she adopted, taking it from the Glaemril (Deeping Stream).
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eomer
Acolyte
Russia
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Posted - 05 Oct 2005 : 13:41:04
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Some more questions:
1. Is Archenwood named after the river?
2. Ascalhorn is named after rock it is build on. Is the name of the rock the same? And are there any clues as to who that Ascal could be?
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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore
Australia
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Posted - 06 Oct 2005 : 03:18:15
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quote:
Originally posted by eomer
Some more questions:
1. Is Archenwood named after the river?
2. Ascalhorn is named after rock it is build on. Is the name of the rock the same? And are there any clues as to who that Ascal could be?
I actually think (and this is my opinion) that the place is named after the dragon Arkhenthus "the Mage Devourer" who was slain by a group of flying, sword-wielding elves and humans (the first time N'Tel'Quess had been included in such an event - see the "Cormanthyr" accessory and "Volo's Guide to the Dalelands"). I'm postulating that the site of Arkhenthus' demise was present-day Archendale and that his name eventually evolved into Arkhen and then Archendale. But hey, they're just my lunatic ravings.
As for Ascalhorn, this was named after the original elven settlement which was Ascal's Horn, named for the elf who built the first tower here on a big rock outcropping.
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eomer
Acolyte
Russia
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Posted - 06 Oct 2005 : 13:13:05
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| Thanks a lot. Actualy I think like you - that the river is named after that dragon. And thank you for info on Ascal horn. |
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eomer
Acolyte
Russia
28 Posts |
Posted - 06 Oct 2005 : 13:20:11
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Some more questions (if you wonder why I'am asking them - then I will answer. I'am translating FR into Russian)
1. Does "bark" in Trolbark forest mean skin of trolls or sounds they make(barking like a dog)? |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 06 Oct 2005 : 19:47:04
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| I don't know for sure, but I've always assumed "Trollbark" is a reference to tree bark. But what do I know? |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 06 Oct 2005 : 23:09:23
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| For some reason, I've always assumed it meant that the area was crawling with trolls -- so many that they're as thick as the bark on the trees. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 07 Oct 2005 : 02:39:41
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
For some reason, I've always assumed it meant that the area was crawling with trolls -- so many that they're as thick as the bark on the trees.
Aye. I'd also thought it was due to the increased troll activity, mostly in the vicinity of the Troll Hills.
And the name "Trollbark" might actually just reflect the fact that trolls are also apparent in depths of the forest.
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eomer
Acolyte
Russia
28 Posts |
Posted - 07 Oct 2005 : 10:09:38
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| I'am so confused. This makes matters even more complicated. I don't know how to translate it :( |
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