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KnightErrantJR
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Posted - 23 Oct 2005 :  01:52:41  Show Profile  Visit KnightErrantJR's Homepage Send KnightErrantJR a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
Okay, we know of Alias, and we know of Cat and the Alias construct that became a cleric and married Akabar Bel Akash, but has anyone ever detailed any of the other Alias constructs or where they may have ended up?

Arivia
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Posted - 23 Oct 2005 :  02:07:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Alias was but the first Alias vessel, for Phalse create at least a dozen near duplicates, all of which are believed to now
wander Faerūn. It is possible that Phalse shared the secret of their construction with other demons or the like, although
the death of Cassana, the “mother” of Alias, most likely precludes any more identical duplicates of Alias. However, no
proof of such knowledge sharing has been uncovered. Five of these have been identified, including: Cat Wyvernspur of
Ordulin, wife of the noble hero Giogi Wyvernspur (see below); the deceased thief Jade; Zhara, a cleric of Tymora and
widow of the Turmish hero Akabar Bel Akash; a sage in Candlekeep; a warrior in eastern lands; and a lady of power in
Waterdeep. Each of the Alias vessel replicas contains a sliver of Dragonbait’s soul, and thus each is always of good
alignment.


Eric Boyd & Tom Costa's Bestiary of the Realms, Volume I(available here) contains a 3.0 Alias Construct template and the quoted information.

EDIT: I hate how this place only accepts lower-case tags.

Edited by - Arivia on 23 Oct 2005 02:17:05
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KnightErrantJR
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Posted - 23 Oct 2005 :  02:11:56  Show Profile  Visit KnightErrantJR's Homepage Send KnightErrantJR a Private Message  Reply with Quote
You know, the irony is that I have downloaded that, and I know somehow I must have looked at that becuase I have used other monsters from that work before. Thanks for redirecting me Arivia.

I know where Cat and Zhara are featured, but where were the others detailed? Although I do remember the Alias Construct that Alias saw that was outfitted as a ninja in Azure Bonds . . .
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Arivia
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Posted - 23 Oct 2005 :  02:16:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by KnightErrantJR

You know, the irony is that I have downloaded that, and I know somehow I must have looked at that becuase I have used other monsters from that work before. Thanks for redirecting me Arivia.

I know where Cat and Zhara are featured, but where were the others detailed? Although I do remember the Alias Construct that Alias saw that was outfitted as a ninja in Azure Bonds . . .



You're welcome. As to where the others were mentioned, I've no clue-Eric Boyd and Tom Costa only noted Cat and Alias' appearances...
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Crennen FaerieBane
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Posted - 23 Oct 2005 :  03:22:45  Show Profile Send Crennen FaerieBane a Private Message  Reply with Quote
So which one is in power in the great City of Splendors? Or is that not detailed?

Weird that this thread should come up since I just recently started reading that trilogy again.

C-Fb

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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 23 Oct 2005 :  03:29:54  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The Waterdhavian one is a courtesan. I think most of the identified ones are mentioned by Zhara, in the early part of Song of the Saurials. If you look back at the end of Azure Bonds, you get some simple descriptions of some of the others. Jade More, the deceased thief, is in the novel The Wyvern's Spur, same as Cat of Ordulin.

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KnightErrantJR
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Posted - 23 Oct 2005 :  03:57:42  Show Profile  Visit KnightErrantJR's Homepage Send KnightErrantJR a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I need to go back and reread those. I am currently reading Masquerades, which is what spurred the question in the first place. Its been a long time since I read the original trilogy.
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warlockco
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Posted - 23 Oct 2005 :  13:19:13  Show Profile  Visit warlockco's Homepage Send warlockco a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by KnightErrantJR

I need to go back and reread those. I am currently reading Masquerades, which is what spurred the question in the first place. Its been a long time since I read the original trilogy.



Its sad with the exception of Homeland, there are very few FR books that I have reread. Or when looking for NPC information for the NPCs that I have statted (eye color, hair color, etc).
Yet, novels by David Weber (military sci-fi), I have read over 6 times or more.

Will need to dig through them and see which ones interest me again.

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Crennen FaerieBane
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Posted - 23 Oct 2005 :  15:12:04  Show Profile Send Crennen FaerieBane a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'm in the same boat, Warlockco. It seems there is never enough time in a day to fit in reading a book, anymore. Gosh, I wish my college days were back!

C-Fb

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Foxhelm
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Posted - 23 Oct 2005 :  15:39:09  Show Profile Send Foxhelm a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I read an interview with Jeff Grub that might be on Wizard's where he says that if he was to write another book, it would be one to wrap up the Alias vessels that are out there.

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KnightErrantJR
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Posted - 23 Oct 2005 :  15:46:02  Show Profile  Visit KnightErrantJR's Homepage Send KnightErrantJR a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hm . . . I might go there and try a search for it if all of their topics didn't have a permanent non-detection cast on them . . .
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Foxhelm
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Posted - 23 Oct 2005 :  16:10:39  Show Profile Send Foxhelm a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Here is the interview at GameReport:
http://www.gamingreport.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=Sections&file=index&req=viewarticle&artid=50

The Quote:
"As tempting as it is, I would be hesitant to return to Alias and Dragonbait unless I had a really cool story for them. Probably something that wrapped up all the loose ends with the Legion of Aliai. But no plans at the present."


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Edited by - Foxhelm on 23 Oct 2005 16:16:37
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George Krashos
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Posted - 24 Oct 2005 :  00:46:34  Show Profile Send George Krashos a Private Message  Reply with Quote
FR7 Hall of Heroes has a bit in the Alias write-up where Lhaeo (now King Haedrak of Tethyr) gives a dissertation of sorts on constructs in the Realms and talks about the Alias-vessels.

-- George Krashos

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TomCosta
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Posted - 25 Oct 2005 :  23:22:08  Show Profile Send TomCosta a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Sorry I've been away. I've got nothing to add. Hope the template was useful. I believe the list of the other "Aliases" came out of FR7 or Heroes Lorebook.
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