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Just
Acolyte
Portugal
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 Posted - 18 Feb 2006 : 15:49:35
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Hi again fellow fans, I have yet another question about Cormyr.
In the book by TSR "Cormyr", it is made mention of "The Lords Who Sleep", who are part of a prophecy by Alaundo of Candlekeep for Cormyr and thouroughly sought after by the Warrior Emperel.
I don't know who this lords who sleep are, but I would guess this something that either relates to the Ghazneths or the Shade's. Is this true or are this lords who sleep, something entirely different?
I thank any possible questions you migh have on this subject.
Sincerely Just the Qindahearted
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore
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Posted - 18 Feb 2006 : 16:09:45
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The Lords Who Sleep are entirely different.
I don't want to spoil Troy Denning's novel BEYOND THE HIGH ROAD for you, but it contains an event involving the Lords, who as a result are not a factor in DEATH OF THE DRAGON (the third Cormyr novel). In Ed's later ELMINSTER'S DAUGHTER, Vangerdhast does something in response to the event in BEYOND THE HIGH ROAD.
Sorry to be so cryptic, but I'm trying not to dump a spoiler on you. If you don't mind a spoiler, post that and I'll charge ahead. :}
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Faraer
Great Reader
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Posted - 18 Feb 2006 : 16:44:46
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The Lords Who Sleep were first mentioned in print years before anyone thought of the Shadovar or (perhaps) Ghazneths.
Their treatment in Beyond the High Road is not one I would have advised. |
Edited by - Faraer on 18 Feb 2006 16:45:39 |
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Just
Acolyte
Portugal
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Posted - 18 Feb 2006 : 20:38:29
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Thanks for the Input!
I have read the trilogy that lead to the death of the "Dragons", and I do remember that there was a hidden cache somewhere that Rowan Cormaeril actually found despoiled, and that Emperel was supposedly guarding. I didn't understand that part very well because I sought that the Lords who sleep were supposedly something bad to Cormyr. Well I haven't read Elminster Daughter yet, but I do plan to do so. And I don't mind the spoiler, it will not prevent me from devouring yet another book about Elminster!!!
So go ahaed and Spoil me, kind lady Herald?? Sincerely Just the Qindahearted |
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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore
Australia
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Posted - 18 Feb 2006 : 23:57:55
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The 2E "Cormyr" product totally botched the Lords Who Sleep, intimating as you say that they were an evil aimed toward Cormyr - which is totally incorrect. The original and best reference remains the NPC write-up of Emperel in the Ol' Grey Box. I did have a DRAGON submission on the Sleeping Sword half-written with further notes from Ed a couple of months before Troy dropped the bomb. Gotta love that collective writing environment.
-- George Krashos
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore
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Posted - 20 Feb 2006 : 04:00:24
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"The bomb" George refers to was the killing of all The Lords Who Sleep, revealed in a "shocker" scene in BEYOND THE HIGH ROAD that Ed was just as "less than pleased about" as George was.
The Lords Who Sleep were magically-put-in-stasis (in an underhill crypt) defenders of Cormyr, prophecied to awaken and ride forth to defend the real in its hour of need.
[SPOILER WARNING]
In ELMINSTER'S DAUGHTER, Vangerdahast contemplates (and then does something about) replacing the destroyed Lords Who Sleep with new "waiting" defenders of Cormyr. . . who just might include himself.
There. That should be coy enough.  For my reputation, I mean. 
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Dargoth
Great Reader
Australia
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Posted - 20 Feb 2006 : 04:38:21
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Originally posted by The Hooded One
"The bomb" George refers to was the killing of all The Lords Who Sleep, revealed in a "shocker" scene in BEYOND THE HIGH ROAD that Ed was just as "less than pleased about" as George was.
The Lords Who Sleep were magically-put-in-stasis (in an underhill crypt) defenders of Cormyr, prophecied to awaken and ride forth to defend the real in its hour of need.
[SPOILER WARNING]
In ELMINSTER'S DAUGHTER, Vangerdahast contemplates (and then does something about) replacing the destroyed Lords Who Sleep with new "waiting" defenders of Cormyr. . . who just might include himself.
There. That should be coy enough. For my reputation, I mean.
love,
THO
Speaking of Vangerdahast might we see an update on his "waiting defenders" in a certain source book due out later this year? |
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khorne
Master of Realmslore
Finland
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Posted - 20 Feb 2006 : 12:32:36
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quote:
Originally posted by George Krashos
I did have a DRAGON submission on the Sleeping Sword half-written with further notes from Ed a couple of months before Troy dropped the bomb. Gotta love that collective writing environment.
-- George Krashos
I do have to admit Troy is very good at dropping bombs. |
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Asgetrion
Master of Realmslore
Finland
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Posted - 24 Feb 2006 : 23:18:55
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Originally posted by khorne
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Originally posted by George Krashos
I did have a DRAGON submission on the Sleeping Sword half-written with further notes from Ed a couple of months before Troy dropped the bomb. Gotta love that collective writing environment.
-- George Krashos
I do have to admit Troy is very good at dropping bombs.
Was it Troy who came up with the Ghazneths? |
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KnightErrantJR
Great Reader
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Posted - 24 Feb 2006 : 23:54:14
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| Lets see, they were uber powerful and twisted around all sorts of game rules, nearly impossible to defeat without causing massive death and destruction, and had an extreemly twisted physical description . . . yup, that a Denning creature all right . . . |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 25 Feb 2006 : 01:33:17
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Originally posted by Asgetrion
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Originally posted by khorne
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Originally posted by George Krashos
I did have a DRAGON submission on the Sleeping Sword half-written with further notes from Ed a couple of months before Troy dropped the bomb. Gotta love that collective writing environment.
-- George Krashos
I do have to admit Troy is very good at dropping bombs.
Was it Troy who came up with the Ghazneths?
Yes. Ghazneths were written up in Dragon Annual #4 for 2e.
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KnightErrantJR
Great Reader
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Posted - 25 Feb 2006 : 01:59:03
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| Um, Sage . . . Troy wrote that article . . . and the NPCs from Beyond the High Road appeared in that same annual, also written by Troy . . . |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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Posted - 25 Feb 2006 : 05:12:27
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Thanks KEJR . I'd actually thought another game designer, other than Troy, had written the article for some strange reason, but yes... the NPCs were also included.
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Just
Acolyte
Portugal
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Posted - 26 Feb 2006 : 23:49:30
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*Spoiler ahead*
Hmm i'm guessing that the only surviving Ghazneth of Death of the Dragon is one of those Lords Who Sleep!? I'm guessing Rowan would want to protect is Son most of all, even above is hunger for magic!! Together with the surprise Vangerdahast is preparing, they are very powerfull indeed! By the way would it be wise to use a Ghazneth in a campaign, I was thinking of using Rowan on a encounter. I have no Idea how a ghazneth would be like, beside's the clues given in the books??
Another question, not very related, but I'm guessing you are a very good bet!
The mountains around Cormyr, the Storm Horns and Thunder peaks, when it come's to minerals what those one can find there. I know that in the stonelands the orcs mine for Iron, but the mountains , I found no mention in all the books I've read!? What do you think?
Also whats the story behind the village of Redspring in northern Cormyr, why does in the Cormyr book come's the indication that this place holds a good future, it's also said that more info about this town would come out in future reference books about Cormyr?
I thank any answers you might have for me. Sincerely Just the Qindahearted |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 27 Feb 2006 : 02:20:37
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Originally posted by Just
*Spoiler ahead*
Hmm i'm guessing that the only surviving Ghazneth of Death of the Dragon is one of those Lords Who Sleep!? I'm guessing Rowan would want to protect is Son most of all, even above is hunger for magic!!
Rowen is not one of the Lords Who Sleep. They're all gone, so he can't be one of their number. And while he would want to protect his son, remember that he's a cursed being now -- so it's not like he'll be able to make his own decisions. |
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Asgetrion
Master of Realmslore
Finland
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Posted - 03 Mar 2006 : 23:14:30
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Originally posted by Just
*Spoiler ahead*
Hmm i'm guessing that the only surviving Ghazneth of Death of the Dragon is one of those Lords Who Sleep!? I'm guessing Rowan would want to protect is Son most of all, even above is hunger for magic!! Together with the surprise Vangerdahast is preparing, they are very powerfull indeed! By the way would it be wise to use a Ghazneth in a campaign, I was thinking of using Rowan on a encounter. I have no Idea how a ghazneth would be like, beside's the clues given in the books??
Another question, not very related, but I'm guessing you are a very good bet!
The mountains around Cormyr, the Storm Horns and Thunder peaks, when it come's to minerals what those one can find there. I know that in the stonelands the orcs mine for Iron, but the mountains , I found no mention in all the books I've read!? What do you think?
Also whats the story behind the village of Redspring in northern Cormyr, why does in the Cormyr book come's the indication that this place holds a good future, it's also said that more info about this town would come out in future reference books about Cormyr?
I thank any answers you might have for me. Sincerely Just the Qindahearted
Wooly is correct - Rowen is not one of the Lords Who Sleep, whom Troy wrote as being destroyed by Ghazneths in Beyond the High Road  
Like Sage pointed out, the AD&D stats for the Ghazneths may be found in the Dragon Annual 4, but my personal opinion is that it wouldn't be wise to use a ghazneth in any campaign. I wish they had never been invented or unleashed on Cormyr. The whole "Seven Scourges" idea sucked big time, and my gaming group chose to ignore those events in our campaigns. |
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