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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
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 Posted - 28 Feb 2006 : 17:04:39
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I would be nice if we haven't heard the last of Greyt...
Sometimes characters are so interesting you don't want them to be dispatched for good. |
"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
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Erik Scott de Bie
Forgotten Realms Author
USA
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Posted - 28 Feb 2006 : 17:31:20
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Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
I would be nice if we haven't heard the last of Greyt...
Sometimes characters are so interesting you don't want them to be dispatched for good.
Not entirely up to me, I'm afraid.  Who knows?
Anyway, Greyt is definitely at the "rogue-end" of the bardic spectrum, countered on the opposite side by a rather irascible fellow named Derst in a novel called Ghostwalker by this one de Brie guy which is graced by a rather brilliant cover by a certain Raymond Swanland.
Ok, enough pimping. 
Cheers
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Erik Scott de Bie
'Tis easier to destroy than to create.
Author of a number of Realms novels (GHOSTWALKER, DEPTHS OF MADNESS, and the SHADOWBANE series), contributor to the NEVERWINTER CAMPAIGN GUIDE and SHADOWFELL: GLOOMWROUGHT AND BEYOND, Twitch DM of the Dungeon Scrawlers, currently playing "The Westgate Irregulars" |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 28 Feb 2006 : 18:05:18
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Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie
this one de Brie guy
Man, I hope that was a deliberate misspelling...  |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
7106 Posts |
Posted - 28 Feb 2006 : 18:07:40
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Isn't Brie a type of cheese?
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Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie
Not entirely up to me, I'm afraid. Who knows?
It's sad. |
"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
--Richard Greene (letter to Time) |
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Erik Scott de Bie
Forgotten Realms Author
USA
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Posted - 28 Feb 2006 : 18:16:21
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie
this one de Brie guy
Man, I hope that was a deliberate misspelling...
Oh it was. People misspell my name -- I'm sympathizing.
I've gotten De buy, De bry, De bou, Debris, Debb, Bie, Bee, Debbie (once I got a solicitor asking "Debbie Erik? Does she live there?"), Debrin, and Desbrin (don't ask).
(I figure if you can't laugh at yourself, then you've got no business laughing at anything, really. )
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Isn't Brie a type of cheese?
This reminds me of a joke (NOT made by me, tragically) that involves a certain RAS character, French cheese, and kittens, but to share it would be entirely off topic.
Though perhaps I've given it away. 
But enough about me -- more about rogues (who aren't me)!
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Erik Scott de Bie
'Tis easier to destroy than to create.
Author of a number of Realms novels (GHOSTWALKER, DEPTHS OF MADNESS, and the SHADOWBANE series), contributor to the NEVERWINTER CAMPAIGN GUIDE and SHADOWFELL: GLOOMWROUGHT AND BEYOND, Twitch DM of the Dungeon Scrawlers, currently playing "The Westgate Irregulars" |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
7106 Posts |
Posted - 28 Feb 2006 : 18:56:29
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Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie
I've gotten De buy, De bry, De bou, Debris, Debb, Bie, Bee, Debbie (once I got a solicitor asking "Debbie Erik? Does she live there?"), Debrin, and Desbrin (don't ask).
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This reminds me of a joke (NOT made by me, tragically) that involves a certain RAS character, French cheese, and kittens, but to share it would be entirely off topic.
Though perhaps I've given it away.
Sorta kinda.
Rogues--did anyone mention Chost from the Cleric Quintet? |
"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
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ElaineCunningham
Forgotten Realms Author
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Posted - 28 Feb 2006 : 19:51:27
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Ah, thanks for putting that out. I'm a bard lover, but I'm not a musician, hence my use of "strumming".
Sorry about the . I didn't mean to put you on the spot--you're definitely not alone in this; in fact, the comment reminded me of musical misuses I've seen in fantasy novels over the years. One writer used the phrase "reached a crescendo." I tried to explain to him that crescendo is the process of getting louder, not the high decible point at the end of that process. When this notion didn't seem to find much resonance, I offered an analogy: a crescendo is the foreplay, not the climax. To which he responded, much to my surprise, "I don't know about that: MY women tend to get pretty loud right about then."  Yikes. Talk about a conversation stopper.
And no, that writer was not Ed. He is, elven orgies notwithstanding, ever a gentleman. |
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KnightErrantJR
Great Reader
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Posted - 28 Feb 2006 : 19:59:18
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Originally posted by ElaineCunningham
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Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Ah, thanks for putting that out. I'm a bard lover, but I'm not a musician, hence my use of "strumming".
Sorry about the . I didn't mean to put you on the spot--you're definitely not alone in this; in fact, the comment reminded me of musical misuses I've seen in fantasy novels over the years. One writer used the phrase "reached a crescendo." I tried to explain to him that crescendo is the process of getting louder, not the high decible point at the end of that process. When this notion didn't seem to find much resonance, I offered an analogy: a crescendo is the foreplay, not the climax. To which he responded, much to my surprise, "I don't know about that: MY women tend to get pretty loud right about then." Yikes. Talk about a conversation stopper.
And no, that writer was not Ed. He is, elven orgies notwithstanding, ever a gentleman.
Wait, you tried to explain to man about something by using foreplay and the female climax as an analogy . . . Indeed, you are an optimist Elaine |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
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Posted - 28 Feb 2006 : 20:08:34
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Sorry about the . I didn't mean to put you on the spot--you're definitely not alone in this; in fact, the comment reminded me of musical misuses I've seen in fantasy novels over the years.
It's all right--I'm not a bard, I just play one in certain games.
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One writer used the phrase "reached a crescendo." I tried to explain to him that crescendo is the process of getting louder, not the high decible point at the end of that process. When this notion didn't seem to find much resonance, I offered an analogy: a crescendo is the foreplay, not the climax. To which he responded, much to my surprise, "I don't know about that: MY women tend to get pretty loud right about then." Yikes. Talk about a conversation stopper.
That's pretty funny, though I must say that writer had cheek! |
"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
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ElaineCunningham
Forgotten Realms Author
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Posted - 28 Feb 2006 : 20:30:32
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Wait, you tried to explain to man about something by using foreplay and the female climax as an analogy . . . Indeed, you are an optimist Elaine
You make an excellent point. Needless to say, I dropped this analogy from my repetoire at once. |
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ElaineCunningham
Forgotten Realms Author
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Posted - 28 Feb 2006 : 20:53:03
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It's all right--I'm not a bard, I just play one in certain games.
Understood, and only too well. On the whole, there's better information available for fighters than for bards. I still haven't assimilated the notion that bards who have a particular affinity for dragons should play (or for that matter, CAN play) something called a "water pipe." It wouldn't have occurred to me to include a bong in a bard's handbook.
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That's pretty funny, though I must say that writer had cheek!
It was unexpected, certainly. But it serves me right for getting school-marmish with musical terms. |
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KnightErrantJR
Great Reader
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Posted - 28 Feb 2006 : 21:22:51
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I would be leary of any bardic knowlage gained from a bard whose instrument is the water pipe.  |
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Erik Scott de Bie
Forgotten Realms Author
USA
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Posted - 28 Feb 2006 : 21:41:26
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Originally posted by ElaineCunningham
I still haven't assimilated the notion that bards who have a particular affinity for dragons should play (or for that matter, CAN play) something called a "water pipe." It wouldn't have occurred to me to include a bong in a bard's handbook.
Wow! Inspiration strikes! 
Ahem. Carry on -- carry on. Nothing to see here. 
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Erik Scott de Bie
'Tis easier to destroy than to create.
Author of a number of Realms novels (GHOSTWALKER, DEPTHS OF MADNESS, and the SHADOWBANE series), contributor to the NEVERWINTER CAMPAIGN GUIDE and SHADOWFELL: GLOOMWROUGHT AND BEYOND, Twitch DM of the Dungeon Scrawlers, currently playing "The Westgate Irregulars" |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
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Posted - 02 Mar 2006 : 20:02:51
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Originally posted by ElaineCunningham
Understood, and only too well. On the whole, there's better information available for fighters than for bards. I still haven't assimilated the notion that bards who have a particular affinity for dragons should play (or for that matter, CAN play) something called a "water pipe." It wouldn't have occurred to me to include a bong in a bard's handbook.
That's actually in one of the official sourcebooks? That's funny, though I'm sure it's unintentionally funny.
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"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
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Richard Lee Byers
Forgotten Realms Author
USA
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Posted - 02 Mar 2006 : 23:17:13
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EytanBernstein
Forgotten Realms Designer
USA
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Posted - 02 Mar 2006 : 23:27:19
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Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie
this one de Brie guy
Man, I hope that was a deliberate misspelling...
Oh it was. People misspell my name -- I'm sympathizing.
I've gotten De buy, De bry, De bou, Debris, Debb, Bie, Bee, Debbie (once I got a solicitor asking "Debbie Erik? Does she live there?"), Debrin, and Desbrin (don't ask).
(I figure if you can't laugh at yourself, then you've got no business laughing at anything, really. )
I struggled for several weeks with some of the editors to get my name spelled properly on a project. The logical part of my name to misspell would be my first name. That happened once on an early project where I got Eyton, changed to Aytawn, and finally to the correct Eytan. But recently, in a major product catalog (and on the company's website), I went through a wrangle to get Bernstein spelled properly. It was going around as Burnstein (and I've never seen the name spelled that way). I was actually worried that it would be spelled that way on the book, but fortunately, the editors stepped in and got it right.
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http://eytanbernstein.com - the official website of Eytan Bernstein |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
7106 Posts |
Posted - 03 Mar 2006 : 01:35:59
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"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
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Sarta
Senior Scribe
USA
505 Posts |
Posted - 03 Mar 2006 : 02:14:18
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This does seem to be a favorite strategy. When we were writing CITY OF SPLENDORS, Ed suggested (tongue in cheek) that tucking a rousing elven orgy among the pages of the ms was just the thing to make the editors a) expel coffee through their noses and b) give them something to cut, thus enabling them to feel that they'd done their jobs.
That kind of reminds me of the guerilla tactics the Southpark guys used when trying to get an R rating on the Southpark movie. They knew that the board was having problems with one scene in particular, so they kept redoing it, but making it far more raunchy each time, and submitting it. After about three goes at this, they went back to the original scene, turned the lights out for 30 seconds, resubmitted it, and it got the green light. |
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