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RodOdom
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Posted - 27 Jun 2006 :  17:09:46  Show Profile  Visit RodOdom's Homepage Send RodOdom a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
Apologies for reposting this question. This sub-forum seems to have more traffic.

The ruler of Halruaa is known by the title "Netyarch"

The great druid of the Great Dale has the title "Nentyarch"

Is there a connection?

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Posted - 27 Jun 2006 :  17:14:43  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I think it's just a coincidental use of an odd title.

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Asgetrion
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Posted - 28 Jun 2006 :  02:03:31  Show Profile  Visit Asgetrion's Homepage Send Asgetrion a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Probably both are regional/linguistic variations of the same, ancient title?

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Sian
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Posted - 28 Jun 2006 :  05:28:21  Show Profile  Visit Sian's Homepage Send Sian a Private Message  Reply with Quote
there is no connection between the words ...

Netyarch is proberly a word based upon an old Netherese title, which i doubt that Nentyarch is

what happened to the queen? she's much more hysterical than usual
She's a women, it happens once a month
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Thomas M. Reid
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Posted - 30 Jun 2006 :  04:23:23  Show Profile  Visit Thomas M. Reid's Homepage  Reply with Quote
That and Ed really liked to throw his players for a loop in the original campaign by naming things very similiarly to confuse them or send them on wild goosechases.

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warlockco
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Posted - 30 Jun 2006 :  08:47:05  Show Profile  Visit warlockco's Homepage Send warlockco a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Thomas M. Reid

That and Ed really liked to throw his players for a loop in the original campaign by naming things very similiarly to confuse them or send them on wild goosechases.

Thomas



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Asgetrion
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Posted - 01 Jul 2006 :  19:18:24  Show Profile  Visit Asgetrion's Homepage Send Asgetrion a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Sian

there is no connection between the words ...

Netyarch is proberly a word based upon an old Netherese title, which i doubt that Nentyarch is



Hey, you look a bit like my reflection on yonder pool's surface

You're probably correct. I just thought that Netherese explorers might have influenced other languages around the Realms (without consulting proper sourcebooks first).


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Sian
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Posted - 01 Jul 2006 :  19:27:37  Show Profile  Visit Sian's Homepage Send Sian a Private Message  Reply with Quote
they might have gotten as far as Great dale ... (even though i doubt that they was there alone with Mulhorand rather close by) ... but i don't think they had all that much influence there since the humans thats pretty much the forefathers of Great Dale had rarly gotten there yet

what happened to the queen? she's much more hysterical than usual
She's a women, it happens once a month
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sleyvas
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Posted - 06 Jul 2006 :  22:16:45  Show Profile Send sleyvas a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I've often wondered where the people of narfell suddenly picked up their mastery of demonic magics. My natural thought is that they discovered some ancient Imaskari magic along with possibly getting some training from the demons which seemed to have influenced the area (Orcus and Eltab predominantly). However, there is the idea that some netherese came to this part of the world with their flying mountains (or possibly via spelljammer, since they had discovered spelljamming technology and then got smacked by illithids... in a Knarr that fell from the sky).

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George Krashos
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Posted - 07 Jul 2006 :  01:07:03  Show Profile Send George Krashos a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well, I could tell you where the Narfelli got their exposure to demonic influences, but that would spoil the surprise ...

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Gray Richardson
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Posted - 07 Jul 2006 :  01:56:38  Show Profile  Visit Gray Richardson's Homepage Send Gray Richardson a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Just knowing that a fun surprise awaits us makes it worth the wait to find out!

I hope we won't have to wait much more than a year or so to find out.
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Sian
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Posted - 07 Jul 2006 :  05:38:00  Show Profile  Visit Sian's Homepage Send Sian a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Sleyvas ... you really should read Lost Empires of Faerun ... they mastered a spell device that could enlarge and transmit spellpower into a levitate spell surrounding the city / mountain, and therefore had a bunch of spellcasters throwing spellpower into it (at least thats how i remember offhand without books at me)

what happened to the queen? she's much more hysterical than usual
She's a women, it happens once a month
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The Sage
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Posted - 07 Jul 2006 :  10:55:50  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I don't think there's been any actual connection established.

Though I recall Ed talking about the position of Netyarch early last year.

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Kuje
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Posted - 09 Jul 2006 :  20:56:32  Show Profile Send Kuje a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I know I'm a bit late for this thread but:

I'm going to have to throw in and say there is no connection either. One is the title of the rulers of Narfell and is now the title of the druid that rules the druids of the Great Dale.

The other has connections to Netheril and thier ancestors.

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Edited by - Kuje on 09 Jul 2006 20:58:46
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sleyvas
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Posted - 11 Jul 2006 :  20:24:50  Show Profile Send sleyvas a Private Message  Reply with Quote
<<Sleyvas ... you really should read Lost Empires of Faerun ... they mastered a spell device <<that could enlarge and transmit spellpower into a levitate spell surrounding the city / <<mountain, and therefore had a bunch of spellcasters throwing spellpower into it (at least <<thats how i remember offhand without books at me)

That would be a Netherese enclave. However, they had their upside down mountain enclaves for a long time before they ever discovered spelljamming (i.e. mounting a magical helm to a ship and delving into space). The Netherese did participate in spelljamming late in their history, and they started experimenting on mind flayers (i.e. performing autopsies.. sometimes living ones, I believe). Of course, this p'o'd the illithids and they smacked the fledgling Netherese spelljamming fleet out of the sky. Its all in the original source for Netheril.

Alavairthae, may your skill prevail

Phillip aka Sleyvas
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