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Neriandal Freit
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Posted - 14 Jul 2006 :  21:25:28  Show Profile  Visit Neriandal Freit's Homepage Send Neriandal Freit a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
Ok, so lets play a game everyone. I'm wanting to add 5 Noteable NPCS for my project I've ever so been working on. Here is the information I can give you.

Evil Aligned (evil human warrior, evil cleric, etc.)
1 Must Be a Demon *Any sort*
1 Must Be a Fiend *Any Sort*
All can be Demon/Devil/Fiend'ish but two
They can be any sort of class(es) or type of person, enity, etc.
They can be of any race.
You can give him/her/it they're name, doesnt mean I'll accept it tho.

I can't decide, so I'm seeking help! :D Might as well try to get my project a bit more done by GenCon time!!

Edit: And, if it's anything 'different', perhaps post a picture or something so I can a good idea. Or, at the very least, tell me what book it is out of just incase I do not have it.

"Eating people is wrong...unless it's on the first date." - Ed Greenwood, GenCon Indy 2006

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KnightErrantJR
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Posted - 14 Jul 2006 :  21:37:29  Show Profile  Visit KnightErrantJR's Homepage Send KnightErrantJR a Private Message  Reply with Quote
What level/CR are you looking for here? And are you concerned if you have a demon if you also have a devil . . . and lastly, are these suppose to be a group of characters that know/work with each other, or just a set of NPCs that might have some peripheral connection that you will work out in your project . . . ?
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Neriandal Freit
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Posted - 14 Jul 2006 :  21:41:06  Show Profile  Visit Neriandal Freit's Homepage Send Neriandal Freit a Private Message  Reply with Quote
For the most part, alot of the peoples in my project are Higher Level/Epic. Tho I suspect there are a handful of 'mid level' and fewer lower levels.

No to the demon/devil question. That is explained in my project :P

Yes they work together.

I know, very twisted. But it'll work out, I'd just want to get the 'Keep involved a bit more :P

"Eating people is wrong...unless it's on the first date." - Ed Greenwood, GenCon Indy 2006

Edited by - Neriandal Freit on 14 Jul 2006 21:43:56
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Neriandal Freit
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Posted - 16 Jul 2006 :  14:53:00  Show Profile  Visit Neriandal Freit's Homepage Send Neriandal Freit a Private Message  Reply with Quote
None one is posting any favored evils? If you guys need me to give you a bit more detail to what I'm going to do, I'll be more then happy to..

"Eating people is wrong...unless it's on the first date." - Ed Greenwood, GenCon Indy 2006
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Posted - 16 Jul 2006 :  21:03:26  Show Profile  Visit Rinonalyrna Fathomlin's Homepage Send Rinonalyrna Fathomlin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'd help, but I'm not a huge fan of evil characters, so I don't really have a "favored evil" or anything.

"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
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Neriandal Freit
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Posted - 17 Jul 2006 :  02:18:07  Show Profile  Visit Neriandal Freit's Homepage Send Neriandal Freit a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well, just randomly come up with some sort of NPC. Doesn't need to be detailed or anything, just the utmost basic of things.

"Eating people is wrong...unless it's on the first date." - Ed Greenwood, GenCon Indy 2006
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 17 Jul 2006 :  03:10:45  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
How about an aasimar... He was a paladin, but a foe slew his family. Aasimar became consumed with vengeance, and fell from paladinhood. He chased after his foe, and finally caught him, though not until he had started toeing the line with being evil. He slew his foe, but then found out he'd fallen further than he expected. His church wouldn't accept him back. Angry at what he felt was a betrayal, he turned away from his church and fell the rest of the way to evil.

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danifae
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Posted - 17 Jul 2006 :  03:25:54  Show Profile  Visit danifae's Homepage Send danifae a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Somewhere I've read something similiar like what Wooly Rupert said before (<== if anyone has played Warcraft 3 campaign, arthas did about the same thing), but it still is a nice idea.
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Posted - 17 Jul 2006 :  04:32:12  Show Profile  Visit Rinonalyrna Fathomlin's Homepage Send Rinonalyrna Fathomlin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

How about an aasimar... He was a paladin, but a foe slew his family. Aasimar became consumed with vengeance, and fell from paladinhood. He chased after his foe, and finally caught him, though not until he had started toeing the line with being evil. He slew his foe, but then found out he'd fallen further than he expected. His church wouldn't accept him back. Angry at what he felt was a betrayal, he turned away from his church and fell the rest of the way to evil.



That's a great idea...it's not uncommon to see tiefling characters who are good or neutral in spite of the fact that tieflings are usually evil, but aasimar are usually as squeaky clean as ever.

"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
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Na-Gang
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Posted - 17 Jul 2006 :  11:16:35  Show Profile  Visit Na-Gang's Homepage Send Na-Gang a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Half-Illithid Sorceress, concealing her mouth tentacles beneath a veil, she looks human in all other respects.


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Neriandal Freit
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Posted - 17 Jul 2006 :  13:36:46  Show Profile  Visit Neriandal Freit's Homepage Send Neriandal Freit a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ok, I've got to admit that Na Gangs just striked me lol. That one is in the pool for sure.

I'll have to feel around the aasimar suggestion, let my mind ponder over that one and see what I can do with him..

Thank you thus far everyone :P

"Eating people is wrong...unless it's on the first date." - Ed Greenwood, GenCon Indy 2006
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Na-Gang
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Posted - 17 Jul 2006 :  16:02:41  Show Profile  Visit Na-Gang's Homepage Send Na-Gang a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Neriandal Freit

Ok, I've got to admit that Na Gangs just striked me lol. That one is in the pool for sure.



She doesn't have to be a sorceress of course. In fact it'd probably be more of a shock to have players face a non-spellcaster. Maybe head of the Thieves Guild or the like?

I'm using a Yuan-Ti Pureblood Half Illithid Rogue in my campaign, but the PCs have yet to meet her. I can't wait to see the look on their faces when they realise. They know the Yuan-Ti are using Illithid knowledge conducting experiments to create new grafts, species and subspecies, but they haven't encountered any products of that yet.
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Neriandal Freit
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Posted - 17 Jul 2006 :  16:46:32  Show Profile  Visit Neriandal Freit's Homepage Send Neriandal Freit a Private Message  Reply with Quote
No no, Sorceress will suit perfectly.

Just I'm going to be doing something comeplely different to these NPCS, so I just need some ideas basically.

"Eating people is wrong...unless it's on the first date." - Ed Greenwood, GenCon Indy 2006
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Erik Scott de Bie
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Posted - 17 Jul 2006 :  16:48:52  Show Profile  Visit Erik Scott de Bie's Homepage Send Erik Scott de Bie a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The kewpie doll assassin has gone over quite well in my current evil party campaign. A wealthy, noble, beautiful woman (not much more than a girl) of immense charisma and heart-wrenching innocence (think porcelain doll-looking noble princess), who lures would be protectors into guarding her from the villains who seeks to abuse her (really her fellow party members), then rewards the victorious, noble good guys with a contact-poison-laden kiss (Poison Immunity feat) or a knife to the kidneys.

Could be part demon (succubus) or devil (erinyes) or a tiefling.

Cheers

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'Tis easier to destroy than to create.

Author of a number of Realms novels (GHOSTWALKER, DEPTHS OF MADNESS, and the SHADOWBANE series), contributor to the NEVERWINTER CAMPAIGN GUIDE and SHADOWFELL: GLOOMWROUGHT AND BEYOND, Twitch DM of the Dungeon Scrawlers, currently playing "The Westgate Irregulars"
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Neriandal Freit
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Posted - 17 Jul 2006 :  17:19:48  Show Profile  Visit Neriandal Freit's Homepage Send Neriandal Freit a Private Message  Reply with Quote
A doll assassin? Thats a new oen for me and something I am going to take big time into consideration ;)

"Eating people is wrong...unless it's on the first date." - Ed Greenwood, GenCon Indy 2006
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Neriandal Freit
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Posted - 20 Jul 2006 :  22:42:51  Show Profile  Visit Neriandal Freit's Homepage Send Neriandal Freit a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Anyone else care to post they're ideas? I really am seeking help so I can get 5 NPC's going here.

Like I've said, if you guys need more information I'll provide a smigen more untill I have all 5 decided upon, then I'll let the cat out.

"Eating people is wrong...unless it's on the first date." - Ed Greenwood, GenCon Indy 2006
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Fletcher
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Posted - 21 Jul 2006 :  18:08:30  Show Profile  Visit Fletcher's Homepage Send Fletcher a Private Message  Reply with Quote
how about this as a party:
The leader is an epic level Death Knight.
A Succubus blighter/Druid
A Malebranch Legendary Dreadnaught
A Paragon Mindflayer who is an uber-psionic Monk with infinite deflection?
A silver dragon who was duped into putting on a helm of alignment reversal.


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Neriandal Freit
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Posted - 22 Jul 2006 :  03:58:54  Show Profile  Visit Neriandal Freit's Homepage Send Neriandal Freit a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Is not a party, just think of them as seperate indivuals. They are together, but not in this manner ;)

"Eating people is wrong...unless it's on the first date." - Ed Greenwood, GenCon Indy 2006
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Blade of Mourn
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Posted - 25 Jul 2006 :  15:34:54  Show Profile  Visit Blade of Mourn's Homepage Send Blade of Mourn a Private Message  Reply with Quote
If you're still looking for fiend characters, you might want to consider succubi or fey'ri. They can fit most classes and easily pass themselves off as normal in any society (to anyone without a continuous true-seeing ability that is) and could make good spies/infiltrators.

Maybe have a few fey'ri led by a succubus or stronger fiend... or somthing.

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Nidhogg flying from Nithafjoll;
The bodies of men on his wings he bears,
The serpent bright:
Malice Striker.

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Neriandal Freit
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Posted - 25 Jul 2006 :  17:27:40  Show Profile  Visit Neriandal Freit's Homepage Send Neriandal Freit a Private Message  Reply with Quote
To many Fey'ri going about, they feel to Drizztitfied to me currently....but yes still seeking ideas.

"Eating people is wrong...unless it's on the first date." - Ed Greenwood, GenCon Indy 2006
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Ergdusch
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Posted - 26 Jul 2006 :  09:05:54  Show Profile Send Ergdusch a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I have worked with several different evil individuals ! I have the following to spare:
- Half-Drow Alu Fiend wizard
- Tiefling Monk
- Duergar Fighter
- Half-Fiend Black Troll Barbarian



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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Posted - 27 Jul 2006 :  00:50:53  Show Profile  Visit Rinonalyrna Fathomlin's Homepage Send Rinonalyrna Fathomlin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Why not make an evil...human?

Really, humans can be pretty interesting.

"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
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Kuje
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Posted - 27 Jul 2006 :  00:54:47  Show Profile Send Kuje a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin

Why not make an evil...human?

Really, humans can be pretty interesting.



HERE, HERE!

Looking at my NPC's for my Compendium article, I noticed that I tend to stick with humans and demihumans. I guess I don't like all these exotic races, except for genasi, tieflings, and aasimar, but that's cause of my planar fixation. :)

For some of us, books are as important as almost anything else on earth. What a miracle it is that out of these small, flat, rigid squares of paper unfolds world after world, worlds that sing to you, comfort and quiet and excite you... Books are full of the things that you don't get in real life - wonderful, lyrical language, for instance, right off the bat. - Anne Lamott, Bird by Bird

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GothicDan
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Posted - 27 Jul 2006 :  01:01:21  Show Profile  Visit GothicDan's Homepage Send GothicDan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Humans!? Pft, never. :)

An evil halfling! Or gnome! No one expects the wee folk!

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"That attitude should be stomped on, whenever and wherever it's encountered, because it makes people holding such views bad citizens, not just bad roleplayers (considering D&D was structured as a 'forced cooperation' game, and although successive editions are pointing it more and more towards a me-first, min-max game, the drift away from 'we all need each other to succeed' will at some point make it 'no longer' D&D)." - ED GREENWOOD

Edited by - GothicDan on 27 Jul 2006 01:04:40
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Posted - 27 Jul 2006 :  01:06:08  Show Profile  Visit Rinonalyrna Fathomlin's Homepage Send Rinonalyrna Fathomlin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
*grins* Halflings and gnomes? Fine--like Kuje, I'm in the "try something less exotic" camp, and the small folk don't get as much screen time to begin with.

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Kuje
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Posted - 27 Jul 2006 :  01:20:50  Show Profile Send Kuje a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin

*grins* Halflings and gnomes? Fine--like Kuje, I'm in the "try something less exotic" camp, and the small folk don't get as much screen time to begin with.



Grin,

There's a gnome in one of my recent hooks or compendium article. :) It's in my hooks actually but in the issue before the current one.

For some of us, books are as important as almost anything else on earth. What a miracle it is that out of these small, flat, rigid squares of paper unfolds world after world, worlds that sing to you, comfort and quiet and excite you... Books are full of the things that you don't get in real life - wonderful, lyrical language, for instance, right off the bat. - Anne Lamott, Bird by Bird

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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Posted - 27 Jul 2006 :  01:23:44  Show Profile  Visit Rinonalyrna Fathomlin's Homepage Send Rinonalyrna Fathomlin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Good to hear the "Forgotten Folk" aren't totally forgotten.

But I'm being a hypocrite...I use mostly humans, elves, and half-elves myself.

"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
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GothicDan
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Posted - 27 Jul 2006 :  01:27:25  Show Profile  Visit GothicDan's Homepage Send GothicDan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Same, here. In real life I've played mostly humans, two elves, a fire genasi, an aasimar, and a tiefling. :)

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"That attitude should be stomped on, whenever and wherever it's encountered, because it makes people holding such views bad citizens, not just bad roleplayers (considering D&D was structured as a 'forced cooperation' game, and although successive editions are pointing it more and more towards a me-first, min-max game, the drift away from 'we all need each other to succeed' will at some point make it 'no longer' D&D)." - ED GREENWOOD
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Kuje
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Posted - 27 Jul 2006 :  01:43:47  Show Profile Send Kuje a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin

Good to hear the "Forgotten Folk" aren't totally forgotten.

But I'm being a hypocrite...I use mostly humans, elves, and half-elves myself.



Well, it's got a human in the same hook. :)

For some of us, books are as important as almost anything else on earth. What a miracle it is that out of these small, flat, rigid squares of paper unfolds world after world, worlds that sing to you, comfort and quiet and excite you... Books are full of the things that you don't get in real life - wonderful, lyrical language, for instance, right off the bat. - Anne Lamott, Bird by Bird

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Neriandal Freit
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Posted - 27 Jul 2006 :  04:35:40  Show Profile  Visit Neriandal Freit's Homepage Send Neriandal Freit a Private Message  Reply with Quote
From my opening post..
quote:
Evil Aligned (evil human warrior, evil cleric, etc.)
1 Must Be a Demon *Any sort*
1 Must Be a Fiend *Any Sort*
All can be Demon/Devil/Fiend'ish but two
They can be any sort of class(es) or type of person, enity, etc.
They can be of any race.
You can give him/her/it they're name, doesnt mean I'll accept it tho.


See, I've got them. They've just got to be evil, they dont have to be something exotic, just something Evil. But I Dont want to get extremendously evil, because it'll be hard for me to explain once I do what I'm going to do..

I like the idea of the Tifeling Monk and will have to play with that idea in mah head a bit.

"Eating people is wrong...unless it's on the first date." - Ed Greenwood, GenCon Indy 2006
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Ergdusch
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If you need the stats for the tiefling let me know!

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