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Forgotten Ghost
Acolyte
Australia
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 Posted - 21 Jul 2006 : 11:06:09
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There is one thing I have been trying to reconcile in my head and that is the location of Suldanesselar in Baldurs Gate (game & novels) and whether the elves of that city are the suldusk of Elaine Cunnighams books as the suldusk were almost wipedout alongside the elmanese and they were wild/wood elves not the moon elves portrayed in the game and BG novel. So are they related or two different people? I know Suldanesseslar appears in Lands of Intrigue (I have been reading 2nd ed. stuff from the WotC site to try and catch up with my realms lore also just as something to read when not working), but yeah I still can't come up with a diffinitive answer, as the BG novels are (in my opinion) not coherent with most realms lore among other things.
And yet ANOTHER thing concerning moonblades (a popular topic from my searches) as far as I know there are only 4 definetly know, Arilyn Moonblades, Elaith's, the Starym corrupted moonblade and the one belonging to Elhan in the BG novel (which as much as i'd like to ignore it its in a novel so its part of lore), are any others known?
In Volos Guide to all things magical there are materials there which I haven't encountered before (like Adamant, and that funny metal begining with Z that i can't pronounce), have these ever been brought over to 3rd or 3.5?
And lastly I have been planning to write two or three short Forgotten realms stories around a character of mine and were wondering if once they are written I could post them here? There won't be any realms shaking events or prodigous amount of fighting or magic. The story focuses on a mainly ordinary guy trying to find his way in life and dealing with everyday (kind of everyday) ordeals they will be quite grounded with the hope that readers will be able to empathise with the characters, they also will allow a closer look at some everyday aspects of faerun life and obsure minor bits of realms lore i find interesting. The setting will be waterdeep and its surrounds i will do my best to have it fit suggly into the realms i'd love for others to read them (or even have them become part of realms lore ) and rest assured once they are written they will have much better spelling and grammar than i have shown here.
I know this is ALOT but heck someone has to keep you sages on your toes right...
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Winterfox
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 21 Jul 2006 : 11:36:33
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Originally posted by Forgotten Ghost
And yet ANOTHER thing concerning moonblades (a popular topic from my searches) as far as I know there are only 4 definetly know, Arilyn Moonblades, Elaith's, the Starym corrupted moonblade and the one belonging to Elhan in the BG novel (which as much as i'd like to ignore it its in a novel so its part of lore), are any others known?
There's also another which used to belong to Zaor. |
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Hoondatha
Great Reader
USA
2450 Posts |
Posted - 21 Jul 2006 : 12:48:14
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Evermeet has a gathering of all current moonblade weilders when they were choosing the king. I think there were about twenty still active (including Zaor's and the moonblade that would become Arilyn's), but it's been a while since I read that passage.
Blackstaff also deals with ten dormant moonblades. Some of these might have been moonblades claimed by gold elven families, though at least one was from a moon elf family (since Tsarra's aunt (?) was a moon elf). |
Doggedly converting 3e back to what D&D should be...
Sigh... And now 4e as well. |
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danifae
Acolyte
Canada
18 Posts |
Posted - 21 Jul 2006 : 16:17:16
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| I agree with Hoondatha, in 1 of the novels it was noted that 20 were still active or something like that. Can't remember which one it was though. Perhaps read up Evermeet: Island of the Elves and a few of Elaine Cunningham's novels to get some more information on this stuff. |
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Kuje
Great Reader
USA
7915 Posts |
Posted - 21 Jul 2006 : 17:12:18
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Suldanesselar is mapped, and detailed, a bit, in Volo's Guide to Baldur's Gate II sourcebook.
The Realms of the Elves anthology has another half-elf with a claimed moonblade.
Yes, you could post your short stories here. There was a time we were working on a PDF of short stories like the Compendium but we didn't get a lot of writers and so it's sort of fell by the wayside. Plus, I'm still waiting for my editor to return my story. Grins.  |
For some of us, books are as important as almost anything else on earth. What a miracle it is that out of these small, flat, rigid squares of paper unfolds world after world, worlds that sing to you, comfort and quiet and excite you... Books are full of the things that you don't get in real life - wonderful, lyrical language, for instance, right off the bat. - Anne Lamott, Bird by Bird
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Edited by - Kuje on 21 Jul 2006 17:15:17 |
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Hoondatha
Great Reader
USA
2450 Posts |
Posted - 21 Jul 2006 : 21:41:44
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| Suldanesselar is also described in the Lands of Tethyr 2e boxed set. Note, this is the original Suldanesselar. Baldur's Gate II took the name and general location and completely changed it. It went from a hidden redoubt in the trees for the few hundred elves still in Tethyr to a major city. I'm not sure there's been a ruling on it since BGII. |
Doggedly converting 3e back to what D&D should be...
Sigh... And now 4e as well. |
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Kuje
Great Reader
USA
7915 Posts |
Posted - 21 Jul 2006 : 22:17:21
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Originally posted by Hoondatha
Suldanesselar is also described in the Lands of Tethyr 2e boxed set. Note, this is the original Suldanesselar. Baldur's Gate II took the name and general location and completely changed it. It went from a hidden redoubt in the trees for the few hundred elves still in Tethyr to a major city. I'm not sure there's been a ruling on it since BGII.
Yes, the poster alrdy said that he saw it in Lands of Intrigue. :) |
For some of us, books are as important as almost anything else on earth. What a miracle it is that out of these small, flat, rigid squares of paper unfolds world after world, worlds that sing to you, comfort and quiet and excite you... Books are full of the things that you don't get in real life - wonderful, lyrical language, for instance, right off the bat. - Anne Lamott, Bird by Bird
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Hoondatha
Great Reader
USA
2450 Posts |
Posted - 21 Jul 2006 : 23:15:33
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| Ah. This is why paragraphs are good. Huge text blocks lead to glassy eyes. |
Doggedly converting 3e back to what D&D should be...
Sigh... And now 4e as well. |
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore
5056 Posts |
Posted - 22 Jul 2006 : 03:50:13
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Ed hears your pain, Kuje.
Just as soon as he gets the current 3 novels and 2 top-secret gaming projects off his plate, he'll dig a little deeper into your tale. He promises.
I lash him about it from time to time, but as you know, he LIKES that . . .
love,
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Kuje
Great Reader
USA
7915 Posts |
Posted - 22 Jul 2006 : 04:01:04
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Originally posted by The Hooded One
Ed hears your pain, Kuje.
Just as soon as he gets the current 3 novels and 2 top-secret gaming projects off his plate, he'll dig a little deeper into your tale. He promises.
I lash him about it from time to time, but as you know, he LIKES that . . .
love,
THO
I figured, I was just being a smart ass and realized it's been almost 8 months.... :( |
For some of us, books are as important as almost anything else on earth. What a miracle it is that out of these small, flat, rigid squares of paper unfolds world after world, worlds that sing to you, comfort and quiet and excite you... Books are full of the things that you don't get in real life - wonderful, lyrical language, for instance, right off the bat. - Anne Lamott, Bird by Bird
Scribe for the Candlekeep Compendium |
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Dargoth
Great Reader
Australia
4607 Posts |
Posted - 22 Jul 2006 : 04:23:41
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There where 25 Moonblades at the crowning of Zaor (From Evermeet a Novel)
The Moonflower clan had 3
Giullio
Thasitalia (this would eventually become Arilyns)
Zaor (Evermeets "royal blade")
Amarillis Clan had 3
Echo
A unamed Wizard from Tangletrees
An Unclaimed Moonblade (Which caused alot of trouble)
Alenuath clan
Adamar Alenuath possessed a Moonblade he used it to kill himself
Craulnober Clan
1 unclaimed Moonblade held by Elaith for his daughter
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Emperor Sigismund
"Its good to be the King!"
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
7106 Posts |
Posted - 22 Jul 2006 : 05:04:19
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Originally posted by Hoondatha
Blackstaff also deals with ten dormant moonblades. Some of these might have been moonblades claimed by gold elven families, though at least one was from a moon elf family (since Tsarra's aunt (?) was a moon elf).
Actually, isn't she a wood elf? |
"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
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GothicDan
Master of Realmslore
USA
1103 Posts |
Posted - 22 Jul 2006 : 05:05:34
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Planescape Fanatic
"Fiends and Undead are the peanut butter and jelly of evil." - Me
"That attitude should be stomped on, whenever and wherever it's encountered, because it makes people holding such views bad citizens, not just bad roleplayers (considering D&D was structured as a 'forced cooperation' game, and although successive editions are pointing it more and more towards a me-first, min-max game, the drift away from 'we all need each other to succeed' will at some point make it 'no longer' D&D)." - ED GREENWOOD |
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Hoondatha
Great Reader
USA
2450 Posts |
Posted - 22 Jul 2006 : 05:22:16
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| OK, now you've made me paranoid. Must go reread Blackstaff closely, and maybe completely change my mental image of Tsarra... |
Doggedly converting 3e back to what D&D should be...
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Dargoth
Great Reader
Australia
4607 Posts |
Posted - 22 Jul 2006 : 05:31:02
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Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Originally posted by Hoondatha
Blackstaff also deals with ten dormant moonblades. Some of these might have been moonblades claimed by gold elven families, though at least one was from a moon elf family (since Tsarra's aunt (?) was a moon elf).
Actually, isn't she a wood elf?
Tsarra.... isnt she the Drow badass from COSQ? |
“I am the King of Rome, and above grammar”
Emperor Sigismund
"Its good to be the King!"
Mel Brooks |
Edited by - Dargoth on 22 Jul 2006 05:31:53 |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
7106 Posts |
Posted - 22 Jul 2006 : 05:41:18
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Originally posted by Hoondatha
OK, now you've made me paranoid. Must go reread Blackstaff closely, and maybe completely change my mental image of Tsarra...
Sorry. But it's mentioned that Tsarra and aunt share a sylvan elf heritage. |
"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
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Forgotten Ghost
Acolyte
Australia
36 Posts |
Posted - 22 Jul 2006 : 11:23:49
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| Ok thanks for the moonblade and suldanesselar stuff, but what do you think about my storys basic description, you know the kind of things i'll be focusing on. |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
7106 Posts |
Posted - 22 Jul 2006 : 23:55:14
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Originally posted by Forgotten Ghost
Ok thanks for the moonblade and suldanesselar stuff, but what do you think about my storys basic description, you know the kind of things i'll be focusing on.
I like the premise...it's also good to read a "personal" (rather than earth-shattering) story. |
"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
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