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                       what book should I read if i wanted to read thief realms?
 
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                       I assume you're wanting to read about thieves in the Realms? 
  I've heard nothing but good things about the Erevis Cale trilogy, and the Rogues series of novels has been pretty popular, too. I've not read any of them, but I know a lot of other scribes like them. | 
                     
                    
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                       I've read... the Black Smell? No, sorry, the Black Bouquet, and enjoyed it very much. It's a small story about a few scoundrels fighting over a mcguffin, and is set in the Border Kingdoms. A very enjoyable book.
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                       quote: I've heard nothing but good things about the Erevis Cale trilogy, and the Rogues series of novels has been pretty popular, too. I've not read any of them, but I know a lot of other scribes like them.
  
  Yes, the Erevis Cale trilogy by Paul S. Kemp is excellent and one of the three main characters in the series is a thief.
  I recommend that you read Shadow Witness first (Book I of Sembia Series) because it features the same characters and is set before the Erevis Cale trilogy (the thief character also has a major role in this book).
 
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                       quote: Originally posted by Snotlord
  I've read... the Black Smell? No, sorry, the Black Bouquet, and enjoyed it very much. It's a small story about a few scoundrels fighting over a mcguffin, and is set in the Border Kingdoms. A very enjoyable book.
 
  
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                       quote: Originally posted by Snotlord
  I've read... the Black Smell? No, sorry, the Black Bouquet, and enjoyed it very much. It's a small story about a few scoundrels fighting over a mcguffin, and is set in the Border Kingdoms. A very enjoyable book.
 
  Specifically, the story takes place in Oeble.
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                       I've read the Rogues novels and liked them pretty well.  I noticed nobody has listed the titles for the original poster yet so I'll go ahead and do so...
   - Black Boquet  
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  I recently started the Erevis Cale trilogy (I'm on book 2 right now; Dawn of Night) and it's excellent.
  Anohter book about Rogues that people haven't mentioned yet is Elminster: Making of a Mage (1/3 of the book is rogue-ish)
 
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                       quote: Originally posted by Chosen of Bane
 
  Anohter book about Rogues that people haven't mentioned yet is Elminster: Making of a Mage (1/3 of the book is rogue-ish)
 
 
 
  
  True, but it's not really a "rogue book", specifically...a lot of novels have "roguish stuff" in them.  
  I hear tell Jack Ravenwild from City of Ravens is something of a rogue, but I cannot confirm that since I haven't read that novel yet. | 
                     
                    
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                      |  Not something of a rogue - class levels in sorcerer aside, he is the epitomised D&D Forgotten Realms rogue. | 
                     
                    
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                       quote: Originally posted by Kajehase
  Not something of a rogue - class levels in sorcerer aside, he is the epitomised D&D Forgotten Realms rogue.
 
  
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                      |  Read any book that features Torm of Westgate, such as the Shandril's Saga and Shadow of the Avatar series. | 
                     
                    
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                       One may also want to consider "King Pinch" (if you can still find it - I do not know of it has been reprinted). The principal characters (would not dare to call them "heroes"  ) are a gang of thieves. | 
                     
                    
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                       quote: Originally posted by Thauramarth
  One may also want to consider "King Pinch" (if you can still find it - I do not know of it has been reprinted).
  
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                      |  Ya, if your interested in thieve's check out all of the Rogues series. Though Yellow Silk is bard/rogue, it is still good. and Everis Cale series is really good also, but u should probably read the sembian series to get the background info on it. | 
                     
                    
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                      |  I thought that City of Ravens by Richard Baker was a very entertaining, light read with lots of humour. Check it out! | 
                     
                    
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                       I'll also back up anyone favouring City of Ravens, it's a good book and Jack Ravenwild is a cool character. And Faraer is right, Torm of the Knights of Myth Drannor is perhaps *the* rogue to be looking up. | 
                     
                    
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                      |  I strongly Recommend The Yellow Silk one of the best FRs I've ever read. The Black Bounquet is good just because Sefris is so Badass | 
                     
                    
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                      |  If you can still get hold of it, "King Pinch", by David Cook, features a small gang of thieves. | 
                     
                    
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                       Erevis Cale is a must read. And you should try The Lost Library of Cormanthyr | 
                     
                    
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                      |  read City of Ravens. It was very good. | 
                     
                    
                        
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                       quote: Originally posted by MerrikCale
  read City of Ravens. It was very good.
 
  
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                      |  Many of Salvatores novels feature thief characters. I have especially enjoyed the latest tales of Entreri and Jarlaxle | 
                     
                    
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                       quote: Originally posted by Lameth
  Erevis Cale is a must read. And you should try The Lost Library of Cormanthyr
 
  
  The star of Lost Library was actually a ranger, but since he doubles as an artifact-seeker, that novel could be ideal for lovers of traditional rogue-type characters. | 
                     
                    
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                       quote: Originally posted by scererar
  Many of Salvatores novels feature thief characters. I have especially enjoyed the latest tales of Entreri and Jarlaxle
 
  
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                       quote: Originally posted by Thauramarth
  One may also want to consider "King Pinch" (if you can still find it - I do not know of it has been reprinted). The principal characters (would not dare to call them "heroes"  ) are a gang of thieves.
 
  
  Great book! Definitly worth the trouble looking for it, IMO.  
  Has anyone mentioned 'Elminster: making of a mage' yrt?! There is a section deticated to Els roguish history as well.
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                       THE BLACK BOUQUET
    An excellent rogue-ish novel in my opinion. I loved this novel! Whoever said it before was right; Sefris is a badass, despicable, but a great villian... The thief in the book is one of my favorite Realms rogues (why can I not remember his name?) The Realms needs a good thief story focusing on a halfling thief! | 
                     
                    
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                      |  The Alabaster Staff was a pretty good rogue novel in my opinion, and as a bonus it is set in a rather undercovered but important part of the realms. | 
                     
                    
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                       quote: Originally posted by Koushiro
  The Alabaster Staff was a pretty good rogue novel in my opinion, and as a bonus it is set in a rather undercovered but important part of the realms.
 
  
  And unlike the other protagonists in the Rogue series, the star rogue in that book actually gives everything she takes back to others, to her own detriment.  One can correctly state that that's incredibly stupid on her part (she is too good for her own good), but I liked it because it's so different from the rogues one normally sees. | 
                     
                    
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                       quote: Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
 
 quote: Originally posted by Koushiro
  The Alabaster Staff was a pretty good rogue novel in my opinion, and as a bonus it is set in a rather undercovered but important part of the realms.
 
  
  And unlike the other protagonists in the Rogue series, the star rogue in that book actually gives everything she takes back to others, to her own detriment.  One can correctly state that that's incredibly stupid on her part (she is too good for her own good), but I liked it because it's so different from the rogues one normally sees.
 
  
  Kind of robinhood-ish. I liked this one. good storyline | 
                     
                    
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