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Dargoth
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Posted - 27 Jul 2006 :  04:04:33  Show Profile  Visit Dargoth's Homepage Send Dargoth a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
Im currently creating a timeline as a campaign aid for my next campaign and Im aiming to include all the recent major events in the novels between the year of Wild Magic and the Year of Lightning storms

Would any scribes be interested in seeing it when its finished?


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Are you taking about part of a timeline similar in style to what Brian's done with his A Grand History of the Realms? Or something more?

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Dargoth
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quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

Are you taking about part of a timeline similar in style to what Brian's done with his A Grand History of the Realms? Or something more?




More micro Im only doing a few years but it will give info on a day by day basis Im using the format that Wizards used for the Timeline on page 170 of PGTF

By the I think theres a problem with the realms date given for Eds Tears so white short story in Realms of Elves

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Brian R. James
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Posted - 27 Jul 2006 :  04:33:07  Show Profile  Visit Brian R. James's Homepage Send Brian R. James a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dargoth

Would any scribes be interested in seeing it when its finished?
Ummm, hell yeah!

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Dargoth
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Posted - 27 Jul 2006 :  04:53:29  Show Profile  Visit Dargoth's Homepage Send Dargoth a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Brian R. James

quote:
Originally posted by Dargoth

Would any scribes be interested in seeing it when its finished?
Ummm, hell yeah!



I tell you its quite interesting when you see whats going on in different places in the realms on or around the same day

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Dhomal
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Posted - 27 Jul 2006 :  05:49:38  Show Profile Send Dhomal a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hello-

Yes, I would be interested in this - as it would be the time my campaign would be entering as I move forward. I went w/ the starting year in the FRCS, and used Midsummer/Shieldmeet as the starting dates.

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Alexander Heppe
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Posted - 27 Jul 2006 :  07:03:57  Show Profile Send Alexander Heppe a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'd definitely be interested in this. I've read neary all the recent novels, but always get confused about when I can slip knowledge and news about these into my campaign. I mean, the novels really don't come out in chronological order, but tend to spring back and forth in the FR-timeline. Please tell us, what books in particular would you like to include? Possibly some of your compiled dates could be used by Brian in his Grand Historywhich doesn't incorporate all novels published so far?
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Dargoth
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Posted - 27 Jul 2006 :  07:47:11  Show Profile  Visit Dargoth's Homepage Send Dargoth a Private Message  Reply with Quote
So far Ive compiled the following list of novels that are date stamped at the begining of the Chapters

Last Mythal Trilogy
Year of Rogue Dragon Trilogy
Blackstaff
Ghostwalker
The Crimson Gold
Venoms Taste (But not the other bokks in the trilogy)
Realms of Elves
Realms of Dragons

There are a number of important events that I need dates for

Warning spoilers below!!!




The date when Sojourner used the Weave Tap in Skullport (Paul Kemp)
The date when Lolth started granting spells again (WODQ authors)
The date when Llorkh was overun/destroyed (Murray Leeder)

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Alexander Heppe
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quote:
Originally posted by Dargoth
The date when Llorkh was overun/destroyed (Murray Leeder)



So you are including the events from Son of Thunderas well. What about the other two books in the Fighters series, Bladesinger and Master of Chains

And if you are including The Crimson Gold, what about the rest of the rogues series, or Sembia series or even Priests series? I don't know which of them are date stamped at the beginning of a chapter, but some events might be worth being mentioned in the timeline.
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Ergdusch
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Posted - 27 Jul 2006 :  10:05:14  Show Profile Send Ergdusch a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Yes! Very much interested! Hang in there and keep up the work. I will dig through my books and find out what I can to help you.

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Posted - 27 Jul 2006 :  10:36:48  Show Profile  Visit Alaundo's Homepage Send Alaundo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well met

"Interested"?! Need ye ask, Dargoth?

::rubs hands in anticipation::

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Mace Hammerhand
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Posted - 27 Jul 2006 :  10:54:35  Show Profile  Visit Mace Hammerhand's Homepage Send Mace Hammerhand a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ooooh...I am interested! This would help me greatly in my campaign

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Shadovar
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Posted - 27 Jul 2006 :  11:56:39  Show Profile  Visit Shadovar's Homepage Send Shadovar a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I am cetainly looking forward to it.

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Posted - 27 Jul 2006 :  12:18:42  Show Profile  Visit Wandering_mage's Homepage Send Wandering_mage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I am interested as well. I tip my hat to Dargoth for his ceaseless working to better present scattered bits of FR Lore.

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Chosen of Moradin
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Posted - 27 Jul 2006 :  13:24:30  Show Profile  Visit Chosen of Moradin's Homepage Send Chosen of Moradin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I´m interested too! My campaigns all revolve around this time! All hails to Dargoth, esteemed librarian!!!

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Dargoth
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Posted - 27 Jul 2006 :  14:33:26  Show Profile  Visit Dargoth's Homepage Send Dargoth a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Alexander Heppe


So you are including the events from Son of Thunderas well. What about the other two books in the Fighters series, Bladesinger and Master of Chains

And if you are including The Crimson Gold, what about the rest of the rogues series, or Sembia series or even Priests series? I don't know which of them are date stamped at the beginning of a chapter, but some events might be worth being mentioned in the timeline.



Unfortunatly only a minority of FR novels are Date stamped

Only the following

Last Mythal Trilogy
Year of Rogue Dragon Trilogy
Blackstaff
Ghostwalker
The Crimson Gold
Venoms Taste (But not the other bokks in the trilogy)
Realms of Elves
Realms of Dragons

For the others Im going to have to ask the various authors if they can provide event dates for their novels. Some authors like Voronica are no longer with us (by which I mean no longer posting at candlekeep) like Voronica so Crimison Gold will be a very difficult one to do as the novels arent dated and the authors not contactable




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The Sage
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Veronica frequents another forum I visit occasionally. I can swing by there and ask, if you like?

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Reefy
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Posted - 27 Jul 2006 :  15:36:59  Show Profile  Visit Reefy's Homepage Send Reefy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
This sounds like a very useful source, I look forward to seeing it.

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Snotlord
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Posted - 27 Jul 2006 :  16:27:50  Show Profile  Visit Snotlord's Homepage Send Snotlord a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I am very interested in such a timeline, as I try to integrate my game with the current events as much as possible.
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ShadowJack
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Posted - 27 Jul 2006 :  16:56:15  Show Profile  Visit ShadowJack's Homepage Send ShadowJack a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I would find this very useful!!! I am always ready to captilize on another's hard work...

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Kuje
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The Waterdeep sourcebook for 3.5e mentions the events from Paul's first or second novel in the Skullport section, so that should be able to answer the date for the Skullport events.

If you don't have that sourcebook, I'll look it up.

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ericlboyd
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Posted - 27 Jul 2006 :  18:21:28  Show Profile  Visit ericlboyd's Homepage Send ericlboyd a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dargoth

Im currently creating a timeline as a campaign aid for my next campaign and Im aiming to include all the recent major events in the novels between the year of Wild Magic and the Year of Lightning storms

Would any scribes be interested in seeing it when its finished?





If you're going to do this, can you please include citations (e.g. Temptation of Elminster (hardcover), page 123).

Thanks,

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Mace Hammerhand
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Posted - 27 Jul 2006 :  18:46:53  Show Profile  Visit Mace Hammerhand's Homepage Send Mace Hammerhand a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ericlboyd

quote:
Originally posted by Dargoth

Im currently creating a timeline as a campaign aid for my next campaign and Im aiming to include all the recent major events in the novels between the year of Wild Magic and the Year of Lightning storms

Would any scribes be interested in seeing it when its finished?





If you're going to do this, can you please include citations (e.g. Temptation of Elminster (hardcover), page 123).

Thanks,

--Eric



That would be great...do the page numbers in paperback correspond with the hardcover versions?

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Mkhaiwati
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Posted - 27 Jul 2006 :  19:45:54  Show Profile  Visit Mkhaiwati's Homepage Send Mkhaiwati a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I know I would love it. I am kinda doing that now with only a few books. If you need help, feel free to ask.

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quote:
Originally posted by Mace Hammerhand
That would be great...do the page numbers in paperback correspond with the hardcover versions?

No, the mass-market paperbacks are re-set. I think the point is the timeline should ideally note which editions are being referred to.
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Dargoth
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Posted - 28 Jul 2006 :  01:47:55  Show Profile  Visit Dargoth's Homepage Send Dargoth a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kuje

The Waterdeep sourcebook for 3.5e mentions the events from Paul's first or second novel in the Skullport section, so that should be able to answer the date for the Skullport events.

If you don't have that sourcebook, I'll look it up.



If your refering to the Skullport section of City of Splendors unfortuntly it doesnt provide any dates

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Kuje
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quote:
Originally posted by Dargoth

quote:
Originally posted by Kuje

The Waterdeep sourcebook for 3.5e mentions the events from Paul's first or second novel in the Skullport section, so that should be able to answer the date for the Skullport events.

If you don't have that sourcebook, I'll look it up.



If your refering to the Skullport section of City of Splendors unfortuntly it doesnt provide any dates



I assumed it was the same date as the dates in that sourcebook.... so around 1372 or 1373..... But Eric could answer that better then I can. :)

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quote:
Originally posted by Kuje

I assumed it was the same date as the dates in that sourcebook.... so around 1372 or 1373..... But Eric could answer that better then I can. :)



Please ask Paul Kemp directly for the exact dates on his books. He and I worked them out before I finished CoS:W, which is set in 1374 DR at Shieldmeet.

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Dargoth
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just finishing up PoF and Last Mythal


Spoilers ahead



Several scribes where wondering why the Lathanderites didnt help the crusade or at the very least help protect Lathanders temple in Myth Drannor. Well theres a reason, books 2 and 3 of Last Mythal occur splat bang in the middle of the Risen Sun Heresy campaign arc in PoF

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quote:
Originally posted by Dargoth

just finishing up PoF and Last Mythal


Spoilers ahead



Several scribes where wondering why the Lathanderites didnt help the crusade or at the very least help protect Lathanders temple in Myth Drannor. Well theres a reason, books 2 and 3 of Last Mythal occur splat bang in the middle of the Risen Sun Heresy campaign arc in PoF




Given that I was just reading that section of Power of Faerun last night, I have to say, good eye Dargoth. I was reading it and thinking, "I wonder what else is going on right now" and it didn't even click until you said that.
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I always thought it was simply because they were overwhelmed before support could arrive... They were facing a small army of fey'ri, after all...

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