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Mkhaiwati
Learned Scribe

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Posted - 04 Aug 2006 :  21:51:29  Show Profile  Visit Mkhaiwati's Homepage Send Mkhaiwati a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
Does anyone know of any 2e sources for the Kir-lanans. I have very few 2e sourcebooks, mainly just those from the WOTC website, with a few others I picked up.

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Mkhaiwati

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KnightErrantJR
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Posted - 08 Aug 2006 :  04:07:23  Show Profile  Visit KnightErrantJR's Homepage Send KnightErrantJR a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I may be wrong, but I think the Kir-Lanan were new additions to 3rd edition. That having been said, I've been trying to come up with a good introduction to them for my players. I can picture that they would make fairly good villains with the right work put into what they might be after . . .
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Jorkens
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Posted - 08 Aug 2006 :  04:17:23  Show Profile Send Jorkens a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I think they are 3ed. I seem to remember Richard Baker saying something about them on the Wizard page some time ago as an element they threw in the 3ed campaign setting to see if anyone would work with. That's actually the only time I can remember seeing them mentioned outside of the early source books so I don't think there has been to much interest in them.

To me personally there is something I just cant put my finger on that makes me dislike the Kir-Lanan thoroughly and I have never given them much thought until this question popped up. Has anyone used them in a campaign?
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KnightErrantJR
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Posted - 08 Aug 2006 :  04:27:33  Show Profile  Visit KnightErrantJR's Homepage Send KnightErrantJR a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I had an encounter with one set up as one was desecrating a shrine in a tomb in the City of the Dead in Waterdeep, with the whole "red herring" being the idea that the thing going bump in the night in the crypt was undead, when it was actually something going from tomb to tomb looking for religious shrines and destroying them. In the end, the PCs ended up doing something else, and they never followed up on that lead.
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Jorkens
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Posted - 08 Aug 2006 :  04:33:15  Show Profile Send Jorkens a Private Message  Reply with Quote
To me they just become a variant of gargoyle and I end up using the original instead. I know the Time of Trouble and atheistic element associations with the Kir-Lanan can be used to make them different, but I never liked the idea much, so gargoyle's it is.
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The Sage
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Posted - 08 Aug 2006 :  06:17:24  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Kir-lanans are new additions to FR.

From Rich -

"Kir-lanans are one of those "let's throw some new elements out there and see what sticks" things you do with a world or setting. At the time of the FRCS, we thought they were pretty cool."

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Gray Richardson
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Posted - 08 Aug 2006 :  07:31:10  Show Profile  Visit Gray Richardson's Homepage Send Gray Richardson a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I am working on a plot hook in my campaign where the Kir-lanans are in league with the Ethergaunts. The Kir-lanans are somewhat in awe of the
Ethergaunts, and think of them as kindred spirits. While the Ethergaunts find the Kir-lanans to be least objectionable of all the Material Plane inhabitants, and consider them adequate servitors.

So far the Kir-Lanans have attacked the shrines of both Malar and Tyr on successive nights in Suzail, slaying several of their clergy in mysterious sneak-attacks. The players have not taken the bait yet, and have since got tied up in other doings. Hopefully they will have opportunity to get back to that thread.
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Mkhaiwati
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Posted - 08 Aug 2006 :  17:02:14  Show Profile  Visit Mkhaiwati's Homepage Send Mkhaiwati a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thanks for the replies. SO I guess I have all the info then.

Yeah, I was going to work them into a few small side treks in my campaign, and was seeing if I was missing anything.

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Mkhaiwati

"Behold the work of the old... let your heritage not be lost but bequeath it as a memory, treasure and blessing... Gather the lost and the hidden and preserve it for thy children."

"not nale. not-nale. thog help nail not-nale, not nale. and thog knot not-nale while nale nail not-nale. nale, not not-nale, now nail not-nale by leaving not-nale, not nale, in jail." OotS #367
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Kes_Alanadel
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Posted - 08 Aug 2006 :  19:07:34  Show Profile  Visit Kes_Alanadel's Homepage Send Kes_Alanadel a Private Message  Reply with Quote
They have a write up in Lords of Darkness, in case you hadn't known of it. :)

Ack! I seem to have too much blood in my coffee stream!

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Reefy
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Posted - 09 Aug 2006 :  01:08:06  Show Profile  Visit Reefy's Homepage Send Reefy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The only time I can recall using them is the one featured in one of the adventures at the back of Silver Marches.
I'm fairly ambiguous about them generally; I've nothing really against them, but don't think they're as interesting as many other groups.

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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Posted - 09 Aug 2006 :  01:19:43  Show Profile  Visit Rinonalyrna Fathomlin's Homepage Send Rinonalyrna Fathomlin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Yes, I'm pretty indifferent about these...things, myself. Just jumped-up gargoyles with an atheistic bent.

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Ergdusch
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Posted - 10 Aug 2006 :  11:10:05  Show Profile Send Ergdusch a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I never got around using them (except once in the WOTC Adventure City of the Spider Queen, and only because I was too lazy to rewrite the official encounter). However, I think there is a nice intriguing twist to them and I still consider throwing them at my PCs some time in the future.

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