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Torkael
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Posted - 05 Aug 2006 :  16:01:24  Show Profile  Visit Torkael's Homepage Send Torkael a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
Here's something we came up with and don't know how to deal with.

A half-elf/half-celestial (eladrin maybe)
A half-human/half-fiend (devil maybe)

If these two somehow got together and got themselves a kid that turns out to be a 1/4 human, 1/4 elf, 1/4 celestial and 1/4 fiend, how would the child's racial traits turn out? Would the celestial and fiendish blood negate each other in some areas? How would others react?

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Kaladorm
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Posted - 05 Aug 2006 :  16:17:14  Show Profile  Visit Kaladorm's Homepage Send Kaladorm a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well I'd imagine it would go one of two ways.
1. Like you say the celestial/fiendish cancel out and there is no more powerful effect
2. The stronger bloodline would dominate, and effectively the character would have only a celestial or fiendish bloodline

A half-celestial (and half-fiendish) as I understand it are direct products of a full blooded celestial(/fiend) and so I don't believe a half-celestial can be created by a half-celestial and something else.



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Sian
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Denmark
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Posted - 05 Aug 2006 :  16:22:58  Show Profile  Visit Sian's Homepage Send Sian a Private Message  Reply with Quote
hmm ... how is the blood divided at a half-elf/half-celestial/Fiend anyways?
1/4 elf 1/4 human 1/2 Celestial/fiend? (which practicly makes it a Celestial/Fiend since its the major part)

what happened to the queen? she's much more hysterical than usual
She's a women, it happens once a month
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Kuje
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Posted - 05 Aug 2006 :  16:56:00  Show Profile Send Kuje a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Um.....

they would just be either a tiefling or a aasimar as far as I'm concerned. That's why those two races were created, as a catch all race for anything that is descended from fiends or upper planars but as something that doesn't have enough blood to be a half-fiend or a half-upper planar.

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Edited by - Kuje on 05 Aug 2006 16:56:48
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The Sage
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Posted - 05 Aug 2006 :  17:01:04  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kuje

Um.....

they would just be either a tiefling or a aasimar as far as I'm concerned. That's why those two races were created, as a catch all race for anything that is descended from fiends or upper planars but as something that doesn't have enough blood to be a half-fiend or a half-upper planar.

That's right.

In fact, I'm pretty sure one of the older PSMCs mentioned this.

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Foxhelm
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Posted - 05 Aug 2006 :  18:39:18  Show Profile Send Foxhelm a Private Message  Reply with Quote
It states in Savage Species, that you can add multiple templates. When adding two halves you get quarters.

So your character might be a Half-elf base (Human + Elf = Half-elf) with a quarter-Fiend (Half-fiend) template plus a quarter-Celestial (Half-celestial) template. The only glitch is that to become a half Fiend/Celestial, the template character must have a certain alignment. But it is also in the rules to break the rules if needed.

WotC has an episode in in Elite Opponents that has Vampire Demons, Half-golem Warforged and a half-fiend Astral Devas as possible monsters. So it is possible to have a screwy character, if you can manage it.

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Sian
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Denmark
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Posted - 05 Aug 2006 :  19:15:31  Show Profile  Visit Sian's Homepage Send Sian a Private Message  Reply with Quote
half-golem warforged ...... aren't Warforged allready some kind of 'golem with personality' in eberron :p

what happened to the queen? she's much more hysterical than usual
She's a women, it happens once a month
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Faraer
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Posted - 05 Aug 2006 :  20:37:14  Show Profile  Visit Faraer's Homepage Send Faraer a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ain't miscegenation grand? I want to play a half-bee.
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GothicDan
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Posted - 05 Aug 2006 :  22:08:55  Show Profile  Visit GothicDan's Homepage Send GothicDan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
My favorite character was a half-slug.

(More On Topic now..)

I'd say an Aasimar or Tiefling, as well.

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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Posted - 06 Aug 2006 :  03:01:47  Show Profile  Visit Rinonalyrna Fathomlin's Homepage Send Rinonalyrna Fathomlin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Yeah--decide whether or not it's tiefling or aasimar by flipping a coin. At least, that's my idea. Although, personally I think the topic example is the result of "breeding overkill". Your character doesn't need a unique/bizarre heritage to be interesting. Besides, it's not like the character arranged their own birth, so in a way it wouldn't be anything for them to be proud of.

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Torkael
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Posted - 06 Aug 2006 :  06:36:02  Show Profile  Visit Torkael's Homepage Send Torkael a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thanks for the replies

It does sound fun though when 'creating' people so screwed up in bloodlines. Like the half-goblin/half-kobold army idea which lasted as long as it wasn't going to be used.

"No, I will not create a song dedicated to dancing dwarves. Especially dwarves worshipping Eilistraee." - Tenasa the bard
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Kajehase
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Posted - 06 Aug 2006 :  12:21:19  Show Profile Send Kajehase a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Faraer

Ain't miscegenation grand? I want to play a half-bee.



*sings* He's Eric the half-a-bee.

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