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Charles Phipps
Master of Realmslore
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 Posted - 10 Jan 2007 : 02:16:48
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I was thinking it might be interesting to see a Trade War begin between these two powers. They're both wizard based networks of economic power. The only difference is one is managed by Fzoul now and is the economic arm of the Church of Bane while the other deals only in magic as opposed to many things like the Zhents.
How do you think it would end?
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 10 Jan 2007 : 02:48:15
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| I know by now I sound like a nitpicker, but I wouldn't say the Black Network is "wizard-based" the way the Red Wizards are. |
"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
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Charles Phipps
Master of Realmslore
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
USA
15724 Posts |
Posted - 10 Jan 2007 : 03:25:40
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| I have thought about this myself. I wouldn't put it past the Harpers to 'poke a little here' and 'nudge a little there' to get these two groups at each others throats. The best way to handle your enemies is to sick them on each other. I think the Harpers are much better at this sort of tactic then direct confrontation. They can even play up the 'my enemy's enemy is my friend' ploy, giving information to both sides while acting like they themselves are a third trading faction. Given the natural suspicious nature of both parties this would have to be done delicately and would require a previously set up front, perhaps in the westgate area. This would most likely require a Harper agent who has been DEEP undercover in the Night Masks for several years. If played right it could set off a 3-way (trade) war, something I'm sure the Harpers would be willing to sacrifice their mole for (being altruistic and all). |
"I have never in my life learned anything from any man who agreed with me" --- Dudley Field Malone
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WalkerNinja
Senior Scribe
USA
577 Posts |
Posted - 10 Jan 2007 : 03:25:56
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| Its also important to keep in mind the situation in Mulmaster. These two groups seem to be getting closer. |
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
USA
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Posted - 10 Jan 2007 : 03:27:57
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| I forgot about Mulmaster! A mole might work even better there, maybe as a member of the city's tax collector's, feeding each side misinformation about the other. |
"I have never in my life learned anything from any man who agreed with me" --- Dudley Field Malone
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Charles Phipps
Master of Realmslore
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Weiser_Cain
Seeker
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Posted - 10 Jan 2007 : 04:45:04
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I'm always the Wizard! |
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Victor_ograygor
Master of Realmslore
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Ergdusch
Master of Realmslore
Germany
1720 Posts |
Posted - 10 Jan 2007 : 10:30:00
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Originally posted by Victor_ograygor
Power groups in Zhentil keep
Lord Manshoon the Zhentarim's founder
Sememmon
The Black Cloaks (The wizards in Zhentil keep)
The Zhentarim
Zhentil Keep’s most powerful thief guild, the Naug-Orls (Devil-Worms)
Fzoul Chembryl, the ambitious Chosen High Priest of Bane
The church of Bane the black lord
As to the FRCS 3.x Semmemon left the organization. So i would not include him in this list anymore (even though he might have some influence on single individuals in the Keep).
As to theWar - I see a possibility for such a war indeed as the Zhents oppose anyone that interferes with their possibile gains. So sooner or later the Zhents and Reds will clash head to head. As to who will win - unpredictable! |
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Edited by - Ergdusch on 10 Jan 2007 10:31:18 |
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Ergdusch
Master of Realmslore
Germany
1720 Posts |
Posted - 10 Jan 2007 : 10:32:01
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Originally posted by WalkerNinja
Its also important to keep in mind the situation in Mulmaster. These two groups seem to be getting closer.
What is happenng there? Anyone got more infos, please. |
"Das Gras weht im Wind, wenn der Wind weht." |
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khorne
Master of Realmslore
Finland
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Posted - 10 Jan 2007 : 11:07:22
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I´d place my money on Thay. The Zhentarim are not what they used to be. Under Fzoul they are devolving into little more than henchmen for Bane´s church. |
If I were a ranger, I would pick NDA for my favorite enemy |
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WalkerNinja
Senior Scribe
USA
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Posted - 10 Jan 2007 : 12:40:33
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Erg,
Tharchioness (and Zulkir of Illusion) Dmitra Flass has married the ruler of Mulmaster (who is in fact a Zhent operative). |
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Ergdusch
Master of Realmslore
Germany
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Posted - 10 Jan 2007 : 13:08:04
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Originally posted by WalkerNinja
Erg,
Tharchioness (and Zulkir of Illusion) Dmitra Flass has married the ruler of Mulmaster (who is in fact a Zhent operative).
Where did you obtain that knowledge from? Any sourcebook ref.? M9oM or even FRCS? |
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Jorkens
Great Reader
Norway
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Posted - 10 Jan 2007 : 13:16:52
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I think there's to many unknown factors in such a conflict to say anything for sure, but I would think that the most aggressive group would loose as it tried to muscle in on the others territory and in addition start to make the other power-groups and inhabitants of the realms nervous. If I had to say one though,I would say the Black Network would draw the longest straw.
As for the Tharchioness marrying the High Blade of Mulmaster, this was mentioned in the 2ed. campaign setting and the novel The Mage in the Iron Mask. There's others to, but I don't have my books in front of me right now. |
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Charles Phipps
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 10 Jan 2007 : 13:24:24
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To be fair, Fzoul is a very good administrator. He's managed to reverse all the losses they've accumulated over the past 10 years under Cyric's madness and Xvim's purges of Bane worshippers (under Fzoul oddly enough)
Plus, I doubt Fzoul has been doing anything to torment the Wizards under Manshoon's control.
The Zhents haven't been as strong since the original Box set. Especially since Fzoul just broke the pact with Khelben. |
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WalkerNinja
Senior Scribe
USA
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Charles Phipps
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 13 Jan 2007 : 00:46:46
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The Zhents, resenting Selfaril's marriage to a Thayan, set about to discredit her in the High Blade's eyes. They hope to plant evidence that Dmitra Flass plans to launch a takeover of the city after she gives birth to Selfaril's child. Whether this plot exists or not, and whether Flass even wishes to become pregnant, doesn't matter to the Moonstars. They want the PCs to do all they can to see that the Zhent plan to discredit Flass works to perfection. Then, the Moonstars can concentrate on undermining the Zhentish (and Banite) power bases in the city by exploiting the tension between Chembryl's Banite Zhents and the old-school Zhents who don't worship the Tyrant Reborn.
Yeah, no alliance in the future there.
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