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Yoshi_Kong
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Posted - 07 May 2008 :  00:14:54  Show Profile  Visit Yoshi_Kong's Homepage Send Yoshi_Kong a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
I think the aborted fetus red wizard getting freaky in the Haunted Lands storyline was a bit creepy!


Mod Edit: I've added a SPOILER tag to the scroll's title.

Elminster would get pwned by Gromph.

Edited by - The Sage on 07 May 2008 00:57:22

Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Posted - 07 May 2008 :  00:56:55  Show Profile  Visit Rinonalyrna Fathomlin's Homepage Send Rinonalyrna Fathomlin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Yoshi_Kong

I think the aborted fetus red wizard getting freaky in the Haunted Lands storyline was a bit creepy!



I think any scene featuring an undead, aborted god-fetus is bound to be creepy and disgusting (how could it not be?).

"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
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Edited by - Rinonalyrna Fathomlin on 07 May 2008 00:57:16
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ywhtptgtfo
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Posted - 07 May 2008 :  02:23:09  Show Profile  Visit ywhtptgtfo's Homepage Send ywhtptgtfo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I found Undead mild in the disgusting aspect and I am not the type who likes horror movies too.
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Afetbinttuzani
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Posted - 07 May 2008 :  02:34:15  Show Profile  Visit Afetbinttuzani's Homepage Send Afetbinttuzani a Private Message  Reply with Quote
No fair! You can't throw down the undead, aborted god-fetus trump card at the start of the game.
Afet

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Edited by - Afetbinttuzani on 07 May 2008 02:35:41
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scererar
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I like the trilogy so far, but yes the undead theme is very dark and disturbing to me. Several times I almost stopped reading, but in the end I did get hooked on this one. It is the most graphic to date of any FR novel I have read since the beginning of published realms.
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Xysma
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Posted - 07 May 2008 :  04:14:56  Show Profile  Visit Xysma's Homepage Send Xysma a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin

quote:
Originally posted by Yoshi_Kong

I think the aborted fetus red wizard getting freaky in the Haunted Lands storyline was a bit creepy!



I think any scene featuring an undead, aborted god-fetus is bound to be creepy and disgusting (how could it not be?).



I've got to learn to not drink while reading your posts (shot Mountain Dew out of my nostrils again )

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monknwildcat
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Posted - 07 May 2008 :  05:14:16  Show Profile  Visit monknwildcat's Homepage Send monknwildcat a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Funny, Afet.

Is this scroll specific to the novel mentioned thus far? If not, I vote for Drizzt's Arach-Tilith graduation soiree. I read it several times because I just *knew* I was misunderstanding. But I wasn't.
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Alisttair
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Posted - 07 May 2008 :  14:13:59  Show Profile  Visit Alisttair's Homepage Send Alisttair a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Can the novel that is being spoiled be added to the title plz

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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Posted - 07 May 2008 :  14:59:01  Show Profile  Visit Rinonalyrna Fathomlin's Homepage Send Rinonalyrna Fathomlin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Xysma

I've got to learn to not drink while reading your posts (shot Mountain Dew out of my nostrils again )



I'm flattered.

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Erik Scott de Bie
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Posted - 07 May 2008 :  22:31:40  Show Profile  Visit Erik Scott de Bie's Homepage Send Erik Scott de Bie a Private Message  Reply with Quote
When I saw this topic, my mind flashed on a scene I wrote in one of my novels that profoundly disturbs me to this day. Any guesses?

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Erik Scott de Bie

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The Red Walker
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quote:
Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie

When I saw this topic, my mind flashed on a scene I wrote in one of my novels that profoundly disturbs me to this day. Any guesses?

Cheers



I think I will let someone who is not a charter member of the "Erik Scott de Bie is a disturbing writer" fan club take a shot Especially since I try to forget that scene!



But hands down the most disturbing scene ever in a Realms novel

was:


Artemis Entreri's flashback to his childhood and what his uncle did to
him.

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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 07 May 2008 :  23:25:02  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie

When I saw this topic, my mind flashed on a scene I wrote in one of my novels that profoundly disturbs me to this day. Any guesses?

Cheers



The scene with the goliath dressed like Shirley Temple, singing "The Good Ship Lollipop"?

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Steven Schend
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Posted - 08 May 2008 :  02:04:06  Show Profile  Visit Steven Schend's Homepage Send Steven Schend a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie

When I saw this topic, my mind flashed on a scene I wrote in one of my novels that profoundly disturbs me to this day. Any guesses?

Cheers



It involved a vargouille, a gnome, and lederhosen, didn't it? THIS is the reason why gnomes were written out of 4th edition, you know.....



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Erik Scott de Bie
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Posted - 08 May 2008 :  02:47:04  Show Profile  Visit Erik Scott de Bie's Homepage Send Erik Scott de Bie a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

The scene with the goliath dressed like Shirley Temple, singing "The Good Ship Lollipop"?


Oh no . . . I thought we edited that scene out.

An indication that I took "Depths of MADNESS!!!!" a bit too far.


quote:
Originally posted by Steven Schend

It involved a vargouille, a gnome, and lederhosen, didn't it? THIS is the reason why gnomes were written out of 4th edition, you know.....



SES


That's me: Inspiring design changes through use of the craft:disturbing mental image feat since 2005.

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Erik Scott de Bie

'Tis easier to destroy than to create.

Author of a number of Realms novels (GHOSTWALKER, DEPTHS OF MADNESS, and the SHADOWBANE series), contributor to the NEVERWINTER CAMPAIGN GUIDE and SHADOWFELL: GLOOMWROUGHT AND BEYOND, Twitch DM of the Dungeon Scrawlers, currently playing "The Westgate Irregulars"
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ywhtptgtfo
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Posted - 14 May 2008 :  07:54:39  Show Profile  Visit ywhtptgtfo's Homepage Send ywhtptgtfo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The Spellplague must have reached beyond the 4th wall and briefly touched Erik Scott de Bie. This would explain the gory and aborted fetus scenes.

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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Posted - 14 May 2008 :  14:44:31  Show Profile  Visit Rinonalyrna Fathomlin's Homepage Send Rinonalyrna Fathomlin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ywhtptgtfo

The Spellplague must have reached beyond the 4th wall and briefly touched Erik Scott de Bie. This would explain the gory and aborted fetus scenes.





Well, the "aborted fetus" is from a trilogy by Richard Lee Byers.

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Erik Scott de Bie
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Posted - 14 May 2008 :  16:19:46  Show Profile  Visit Erik Scott de Bie's Homepage Send Erik Scott de Bie a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin

Well, the "aborted fetus" is from a trilogy by Richard Lee Byers.


Indeed. I certainly can't claim credit for that.

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Richard Lee Byers
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Posted - 14 May 2008 :  18:33:46  Show Profile  Visit Richard Lee Byers's Homepage  Reply with Quote
You know, if my aborted fetus doesn't have this award locked up, I made need to think of something REALLY disgusting for my next FR trilogy.
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Hoondatha
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Posted - 14 May 2008 :  18:51:40  Show Profile  Visit Hoondatha's Homepage Send Hoondatha a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'm not sure this is "creepiest" but it's certainly way up there: the revenge scene one of the later two Scions of Arrabar (gah! sp?). The one that involved a doppleganger, a dead guy, a woman, and a woman watching.

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J D Dunsany
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Posted - 16 May 2008 :  13:31:55  Show Profile  Visit J D Dunsany's Homepage Send J D Dunsany a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Hoondatha

I'm not sure this is "creepiest" but it's certainly way up there: the revenge scene one of the later two Scions of Arrabar (gah! sp?). The one that involved a doppleganger, a dead guy, a woman, and a woman watching.



Yes. I've not read the RLB trilogy eveyone's raving about, but I have read the scene you're referring to and it did manage to shock me. Very unpleasant.

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BEAST
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Posted - 17 May 2008 :  12:35:06  Show Profile  Visit BEAST's Homepage Send BEAST a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Never read the above mentioned work, but I sure loved Dissolution, so I'm thinking I should.

Anyhoo . . .

Two notable scenes from RAS's Homeland occur when the drow execute their raid on the Moonwood elves, and when Belwar Dissengulp gets . . . er, dis-handed.

In the raid on the elves, there is a moment in which Drizzt is described as actually getting so carried away with the turmoil of the event that he almost does go ahead and kill the elven girl child. His blade just barely misses her. How might this drow fighter have turned out differently, had he flinched a fraction of a second later than he did?

And, perhaps more importantly, what sort of Drizzt Diaries do you think he would've written had that razor edge gone an inch more to the left?

The eeriest thing about the Belwar scene, other than the whole rationale for the mithral prosthetics deal, is that the gnomish burrow-warden was staring directly at Drizzt throughout the entire ordeal. He bore holes into Drizzt's soul right through the bloody process, forcing the dark elf to look away in shame, disgust, and fright. I bet Drizzt still remembers those eyes, and that ominous visage, to this day.

Imagine: a little orange-glowing gnome, surrounded by reddish-orange drow killers. And visualize those white eyes staring out at Drizzt, unblinkingly . . . defiantly. And then hear the chop of the sword that changes Belwar--and probably Drizzt, as well--forever.

Makes me look away and wince.

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Danny Glick
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Posted - 25 May 2008 :  03:18:21  Show Profile  Visit Danny Glick's Homepage Send Danny Glick a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The scene where Gromph digs out some other Drow's eye with a razor sharp spoon to gain back his own eyesight after his own eyes were eaten out by a rat in Annihalation. There's got to be a better way to gain eyesight through a familiar.
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BEAST
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Posted - 31 May 2008 :  09:51:58  Show Profile  Visit BEAST's Homepage Send BEAST a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I have often wondered how a movie maker would portray the scene from The Crystal Shard in which Wulfgar crushes the skull of another barbarian in his bare hands, decisively concluding their duel. In the book, there is a resounding crack of the bones and a splattering of blood and brain matter upon Wulfgar. All of the other assembled barbarians look on in stunned silence, shock, and awe.

Showing that would certainly warrant an "R" rating in film, but it is my understanding that WOTC/Hasbro are going for a PG/PG-13 image.

So would they downgrade that scene, to maybe just a stranglehold, or a quick snapped neck?

My preference would be for a watered-down PG-13 version for widespread theatrical release and Hasbro/WOTC, and an explicit R-rated Collector's Edition DVD version for the fans. Peter Jackson gave you Appendices. Let WOTC give you gore!

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khorne
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Finland
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Posted - 01 Jun 2008 :  09:10:12  Show Profile  Visit khorne's Homepage Send khorne a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin

quote:
Originally posted by Yoshi_Kong

I think the aborted fetus red wizard getting freaky in the Haunted Lands storyline was a bit creepy!



I think any scene featuring an undead, aborted god-fetus is bound to be creepy and disgusting (how could it not be?).

What I would really like to know is who it's mother and father were.

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Hordak
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Posted - 03 Jun 2008 :  00:50:15  Show Profile  Visit Hordak's Homepage Send Hordak a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Artemis Entreri's flashback to his childhood and what his uncle did to
him.



Where is this from?

You're so dull
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Posted - 03 Jun 2008 :  17:22:04  Show Profile  Visit Rinonalyrna Fathomlin's Homepage Send Rinonalyrna Fathomlin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Hordak

quote:
Artemis Entreri's flashback to his childhood and what his uncle did to
him.



Where is this from?



Road of the Patriarch.

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