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                | Elrond AncalimonAcolyte
 
 
 
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                      |  Posted - 25 Jun 2008 :  04:00:52           
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           	| I know this kinda wishful thinking, but I've started a petion asking WotC to restart production on the Forgotten Realms Encyclopedia. 
 Please support this petion
  
 More Information: www.gopetition.comonline20003
 To sign: www.gopetition.comonline20003
 
 (sorry, hyperlink button doesn't work, there are slashes between com & online and online & 20003)
 
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                      | "A paladin's duty is not to destroy what is evil, but to bring it into the light and redeem it from that evil" - Elrond Ancalimon
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                      | Edited by - Elrond Ancalimon on 26 Jun 2008  06:17:45
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                | Jamallo KreenMaster of Realmslore
 
     
 
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                      |  Posted - 25 Jun 2008 :  04:35:50         
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                      | You may want to look at the responses to my poll question re: Would you buy a Realms Geographic magazine? 
 
 
 
 
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                      | I have a mouth, but I am in a library and must not scream.
 
 
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                | Rinonalyrna FathomlinGreat Reader
 
      
 
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                      |  Posted - 25 Jun 2008 :  14:05:23         
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                      | With all due respect, online petitions tend to be ineffectual, especially in an age of programs that can generate random signatures. |  
                      | "Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake.  Perchance we live to dream.  From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
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                | AlisttairGreat Reader
 
      
 
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                      |  Posted - 25 Jun 2008 :  14:10:25         
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                      | If it were a petition at a GenCon, maybe that would work better?? |  
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                | BARDOBARBAROSSenior Scribe
 
    
 
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                      |  Posted - 25 Jun 2008 :  14:16:22         
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                      | Supported by me... |  
                      | BARDOBARBAROS DOES NOT KILL.
 HE DECAPITATES!!!
 
 
 "The city changes, but the fools within it remain always the same" (Edwin Odesseiron- Baldur's gate 2)
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                | Wooly RupertMaster of Mischief
 
  
      
 
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                      |  Posted - 25 Jun 2008 :  16:22:17       
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                      | quote:Originally posted by Alisttair
 
 If it were a petition at a GenCon, maybe that would work better??
 
 
 
 I doubt it. Long before my banning from their forums, I was told by a WotC employee that they had their own ways of deciding what people wanted, and that direct input from the fans was not something they were interested in.
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                | HawkinsGreat Reader
 
      
 
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                      |  Posted - 25 Jun 2008 :  16:48:46         
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                      | quote:This concept still befuddles me. Though it explains a lot of what has happened in the past year or so.Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
 
 I doubt it. Long before my banning from their forums, I was told by a WotC employee that they had their own ways of deciding what people wanted, and that direct input from the fans was not something they were interested in.
 
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                      | Errant d20 Designer - My Blog (last updated January 06, 2016)
 
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                | The SageProcrastinator Most High
 
      
 
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                      |  Posted - 25 Jun 2008 :  16:57:37       
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                      | There's really nothing that complex about that particular stance by WotC. Apparently, they have a model and method that works well for them, and it's largely what they use when they want to know what their consumers want from them. Nothing more. |  
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                | PatrakisLearned Scribe
 
   
 
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                      |  Posted - 26 Jun 2008 :  05:47:39       
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                      | I re listen the interview with Chris Perkins about the realms last night and i noticed a very important answer he gave concerning this. When asked what WotC will do with all the notes they have from Ed Greenwood concerning the realms, he mentioned that they might incorporate them in a future encyclopedia they might create. Anybody noticed that passage? 
 Pat
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                | The SageProcrastinator Most High
 
      
 
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                | Rinonalyrna FathomlinGreat Reader
 
      
 
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                      |  Posted - 26 Jun 2008 :  14:04:06         
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                      | I agree.  Talking about an encyclopedia is one thing, actually writing it is quite another. |  
                      | "Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake.  Perchance we live to dream.  From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
 --Richard Greene (letter to Time)
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                | HawkinsGreat Reader
 
      
 
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                      |  Posted - 26 Jun 2008 :  15:58:28         
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                      | That, and they would probably make it online and part of the DDi to try and net Realms fans into paying for it. |  
                      | Errant d20 Designer - My Blog (last updated January 06, 2016)
 
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 The vorpal blade went snicker-snack!
 He left it dead, and with its head
 He went galumphing back. --Lewis Carroll, Through the Looking-Glass
 
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 * Compendium Arcanum Volume 2: 1st-Level Spells (PFRPG, designer; d20pfsrd.com Publishing)
 * Martial Arts Guidebook (forthcoming) (PFRPG, designer; Rite Publishing)
 
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                      | Edited by - Hawkins on 26 Jun 2008  15:58:56
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                | Lord KarsusGreat Reader
 
      
 
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                      |  Posted - 27 Jun 2008 :  02:14:51       
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                      | -Given the problems that WotC is having supporting the messageboards, as well as the seeming stagnation with the DDI stuff, I wouldn't expect to see an official Forgotten Realms encyclopedia online for a while, if ever. |  
                      | (A Tri-Partite Arcanist Who Has Forgotten More Than Most Will Ever Know)
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                | ErgduschMaster of Realmslore
 
     
 
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                      |  Posted - 27 Jun 2008 :  06:58:06       
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                      | quote:Originally posted by The Sage
 
 Aye. But that's come up time and again when the subject of an FR encyclopedia has been discussed in the past. We've yet to see anything happen.
  
 
 Wishful thinking really! As much as I'd love to see such a tome I doubt that we will ever see it come to fruition.
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                | DraconsLearned Scribe
 
   
 
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                      |  Posted - 01 Jul 2008 :  18:57:52         
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                      | quote:Originally posted by Wooly RupertI doubt it. Long before my banning from their forums
 
 
 Might I asked why'd you get banned?
 
 As for the question. Meh. Internet sigs don't really work. Hell, even live sigs wouldn't work. Enough practice, and anyone can make thousands of them that look different.
 
 Personally, I use candlekeep and the Forgotten Realms Wiki for my knowledge.
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                | Wooly RupertMaster of Mischief
 
  
      
 
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                      |  Posted - 01 Jul 2008 :  20:02:25       
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                      | quote:Originally posted by dracons
 
 
 quote:Originally posted by Wooly RupertI doubt it. Long before my banning from their forums
 
 
 Might I asked why'd you get banned?
 
 
 I get asked that oft enough that I have simply saved the link to where I last told the tale of my banning.
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                | DraconsLearned Scribe
 
   
 
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                      |  Posted - 01 Jul 2008 :  20:25:08         
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                      | Heh. I see. Well, I do agree on many things. I still post at Wizards, but its filled mostly with 4th Edition RULES!
 and
 4th Edition SUCKS!
 
 Meh. I've been hearing of this place, and joined, but hadn't really read much. But I like this place, even though alot I read deals with 2nd edition, of which I haven't played ever.
 
 But I love reading about Forgotten Realms, so here I am!
 
 Also: Drittz movie. ... It might be done, but it depends on so many factors. So while possible, I wouldn't hold my breath on it being done greatly.
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                | HawkinsGreat Reader
 
      
 
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                      |  Posted - 01 Jul 2008 :  22:50:32         
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                      | quote:That, and any Encyclopedia made from this point on would have the atrocious changes that they have implemented in the 4e Realms.Originally posted by Ergdusch
 
 Wishful thinking really! As much as I'd love to see such a tome I doubt that we will ever see it come to fruition.
  
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                      | Errant d20 Designer - My Blog (last updated January 06, 2016)
 
 One, two! One, two! And through and through
 The vorpal blade went snicker-snack!
 He left it dead, and with its head
 He went galumphing back. --Lewis Carroll, Through the Looking-Glass
 
 "Mmm, not the darkness," Myrin murmured. "Don't cast it there." --Erik Scott de Bie, Shadowbane
 
 * My character sheets  (PFRPG, 3.5, and AE versions; not viewable in Internet Explorer)
 * Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Reference Document  (PFRPG OGL Rules)
 * The Hypertext d20 SRD  (3.5 OGL Rules)
 * 3.5 D&D Archives
 
 My game design work:
 *  Heroes of the Jade Oath (PFRPG, conversion; Rite Publishing)
 * Compendium Arcanum Volume 1: Cantrips & Orisons (PFRPG, designer; d20pfsrd.com Publishing)
 * Compendium Arcanum Volume 2: 1st-Level Spells (PFRPG, designer; d20pfsrd.com Publishing)
 * Martial Arts Guidebook (forthcoming) (PFRPG, designer; Rite Publishing)
 
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                | MarkustayRealms Explorer extraordinaire
 
      
 
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                      |  Posted - 01 Jul 2008 :  23:00:59       
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                      | There was some sort of project planned 'eventually' for the DDi, but since the two things that are supposed to be already available are apparently vaporware (the game-table and the rulespedia), and have been given the the official listing as "available sometime down the road" (their words, NOT mine!), that means the projects that were already relegated to the 'back burner' have been pushed completely off the table as of now. 
 As Dagnirion has pointed out, the DDi is nothing at all what they promised it was going to be, and they can't even keep their website running right at this point.
 
 Remember Dragon magazine? We were supposed to see a printable online version of that.
 
 We saw ONE formatted that way... and a never-ending stream of 4e advertisements disguised as articles ever since. Its been almost a year since they cancelled it, and I've yet to see anything resembling the old mag appear anywhere on the radar.
 
 Empty promises... its what big corporations are good at.
  
 I don't expect ANY Realmslore articles to appear on the DDi, and if they do, it will only be for the year that FR is the 'premier setting'. After that, Eberron will get all the love... for another year...
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                | Lord KarsusGreat Reader
 
      
 
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                      |  Posted - 01 Jul 2008 :  23:43:05       
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                      | quote:Originally posted by dracons
 
 Heh. I see. Well, I do agree on many things. I still post at Wizards, but its filled mostly with
 4th Edition RULES!
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 4th Edition SUCKS!
 
 
 
 -I'd like to see the Forgotten Realms section you are looking at...
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                      | (A Tri-Partite Arcanist Who Has Forgotten More Than Most Will Ever Know)
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                | Wooly RupertMaster of Mischief
 
  
      
 
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                      |  Posted - 01 Jul 2008 :  23:55:31       
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                      | ...And we've left the topic behind, I think... Let's find the way back, okay? |  
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                | The SageProcrastinator Most High
 
      
 
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                      |  Posted - 02 Jul 2008 :  01:41:35       
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                      | quote:I'm not so sure about that. As I recall, Ed did say that some of his material, like the further updates for the "Border Kingdoms" series, may be included for FR as part of DDi.Originally posted by Markustay
 
 I don't expect ANY Realmslore articles to appear on the DDi, and if they do, it will only be for the year that FR is the 'premier setting'. After that, Eberron will get all the love... for another year...
 
 
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                | HawkinsGreat Reader
 
      
 
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                      |  Posted - 02 Jul 2008 :  16:27:09         
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                      | quote:I saw and interview with Ed where he stated that the Border Kingdoms would stay free content. I think it was one the Tome Show but I do not have time to listen to it right now and confirm it. Though, even if WotC did tell Ed that the Border Kingdoms would remain free content, that does not mean that they will not renege on it.Originally posted by The Sage
 
 
 quote:I'm not so sure about that. As I recall, Ed did say that some of his material, like the further updates for the "Border Kingdoms" series, may be included for FR as part of DDi.Originally posted by Markustay
 
 I don't expect ANY Realmslore articles to appear on the DDi, and if they do, it will only be for the year that FR is the 'premier setting'. After that, Eberron will get all the love... for another year...
 
 
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                      | Errant d20 Designer - My Blog (last updated January 06, 2016)
 
 One, two! One, two! And through and through
 The vorpal blade went snicker-snack!
 He left it dead, and with its head
 He went galumphing back. --Lewis Carroll, Through the Looking-Glass
 
 "Mmm, not the darkness," Myrin murmured. "Don't cast it there." --Erik Scott de Bie, Shadowbane
 
 * My character sheets  (PFRPG, 3.5, and AE versions; not viewable in Internet Explorer)
 * Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Reference Document  (PFRPG OGL Rules)
 * The Hypertext d20 SRD  (3.5 OGL Rules)
 * 3.5 D&D Archives
 
 My game design work:
 *  Heroes of the Jade Oath (PFRPG, conversion; Rite Publishing)
 * Compendium Arcanum Volume 1: Cantrips & Orisons (PFRPG, designer; d20pfsrd.com Publishing)
 * Compendium Arcanum Volume 2: 1st-Level Spells (PFRPG, designer; d20pfsrd.com Publishing)
 * Martial Arts Guidebook (forthcoming) (PFRPG, designer; Rite Publishing)
 
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                | GRYPHONSenior Scribe
 
    
 
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                      |  Posted - 04 Jul 2008 :  01:15:27       
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                      | Sounds like an interesting idea...and a great deal of work... |  
                      | 'Everyone dies...I only choose the time and place for a few.' --Eric Destler
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