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Archistratege
Acolyte
Denmark
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 Posted - 21 Jan 2010 : 08:07:23
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Hail and well met, fellows of the Keep.
I have many questions, I desire answered about old Athalantar, from the time before the birth of great Elminster Aumar. Looking through all the tomes and scrolls I have gathered over the years, reveals only the measealiest tidbits of information, and since I am attempting to depart on adventures in the present day location of that old kingdom, I simply do not find it sufficient only to know, that 'Athalantar was a small country of wizards, who ruled the land from the edges of the High Forest, to the banks of the river Delimbyir'.
Any information that you may posess about Athalantar would be welcome. Especially I am on the lookout for the simple information of what language was spoken in that kingdom, wether the rumours about the magelords wielding shadow magic is true or not, and what deities were worshipped in the country.
Always eager to listen and learn...
An up and coming Sage.
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Edited by - Archistratege on 21 Jan 2010 08:10:18
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 21 Jan 2010 : 11:06:10
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Most of what we know about Athalantar comes from Dragon 228, where Ed gave the nation a detailed write-up. There is info to be found in the Elminster books, too.  |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 21 Jan 2010 : 14:16:57
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Most of what we know about Athalantar comes from Dragon 228, where Ed gave the nation a detailed write-up. There is info to be found in the Elminster books, too.
Additionally, Athalantar's entry in Lost Empires of Faerūn summarises most of the more important info from that article. |
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Archistratege
Acolyte
Denmark
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Posted - 21 Jan 2010 : 19:56:11
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| Thank you, both. I will attempt to locate that magazine and see if I can find a copy of the book ye mentioned. I must ask if it is the 3.5 Lost Empires, or some other edition. |
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The Red Walker
Great Reader
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Posted - 21 Jan 2010 : 21:39:32
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| About all I know it was also known as the Kingdom of the Stag and it's capital was Hastarl, which was at the meeting of the Unicorn Run and Delimbyir river. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 21 Jan 2010 : 23:34:36
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Originally posted by Archistratege
Thank you, both. I will attempt to locate that magazine and see if I can find a copy of the book ye mentioned. I must ask if it is the 3.5 Lost Empires, or some other edition.
3.5. I don't think they've gotten around to re-using that name yet. 
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 22 Jan 2010 : 00:13:57
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Originally posted by The Red Walker
About all I know it was also known as the Kingdom of the Stag and it's capital was Hastarl, which was at the meeting of the Unicorn Run and Delimbyir river.
From Ed:-
"However, from memory I can tell you: Hastarl occupied the site of present-day Secomber, the river effectively formed the southern border of Athalantar (and had much the same location and meanderings as it does "today"), but the High Forest hadn't been cut back nearly as much, then, and extended long fingers down almost to the river's edge in the east, and so as to almost divide the realm into segments, west of that."
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Brimstone
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 22 Jan 2010 : 00:58:12
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| I also suggest looking at The Grand History of the Realms. It will let you know what was going on during that time period. |
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Archistratege
Acolyte
Denmark
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Posted - 22 Jan 2010 : 09:58:54
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I appreciate all the input, it was truly quite helpful. In my avid search through the dank basement of my local roleplaying store, I managed to scrounge up a tattered copy of the 228th edition of the Dragon Magazine. Truly, the article concerning Athalantar therein, is quite helpful and impressively detailed. One piece of information seems to be lacking though, that of the language that was spoken in the land. Sadly I am not that much of a sage yet, to know what language would fit that area at that particular time, but I expect that one of you more learned ones just may want to educate me on that.
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Sandro
Learned Scribe
New Zealand
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Posted - 27 Jan 2010 : 08:50:49
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Looking through Lost Empire of Faerūn, and Races of Faerūn, I found these two quotes:
quote:
Finally, Chondathan traders
spread language, commerce, and knowledge from the Heartlands
into the Savage Frontier. Out of this mixture emerged such
realms as Athalantar, Delimbiyran, Elembar, Illusk, Phalorm,
Stornanter, Tavaray, Uthtower, and Yarlith, all of which have
risen and fallen in turn, leaving only the independent towns and
cities that dot the North today.
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Chondathans speak Common and Chondathan, two closely related tongues. Chondathan, one of the root tongues of Common, is the modern form of Jhaamdathan (Old Chondathan), which was one of the two root toungues of Thorass (Old Common). Chondathan employs the Thorass alphabet, a set of characters used to represent the trade tongue that came into use thousands of years ago along the shores of the Lake of Steam.
From that, I think we could say they either spoke Common, Chondathan, Jhaamdathan, Thorass, or any combination of the two. This is pretty loose guesswork here -- I'm sure there's a more qualified linguist around. Of course, the other option would be to ask Ed himself in the appropriate scroll. |
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The Sage
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Ye old Athalantar,
