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Artemas Entreri
Great Reader
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 Posted - 19 Oct 2011 : 16:44:09
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Originally posted by Chosen of Asmodeus
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Originally posted by entreri3478
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Originally posted by Seethyr
I have two semi-stupid questions...
Did all of the major cities of the realms have decent sewage systems? If not how did they deal with waste?
It's just one of things that we tend to ignore when reading fantasy, just like how most of the fantasy characters we read about probably have lice, massive tooth decay, abdominal parasites, etc.....and probably in need of some excellent hair conditioner 
The sewage question has been answered, actually; one novel(R.A. Salvatore's Ghost King, I believe), mentions that major cities have sewers and plumbing that is maintained by water elementals summoned by local wizards.
There are also some explanations to Waterdeep's sewage system, or some vague references to it, in almost all the novels with the word Waterdeep/City of Splendors in their titles.
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Dennis
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Posted - 19 Oct 2011 : 16:51:51
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Nope. His magically advanced students did. |
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Artemas Entreri
Great Reader
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Posted - 19 Oct 2011 : 16:59:41
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Originally posted by Dennis
Nope. His magically advanced students did.
Either way, that's one spell you don't want to mess up, otherwise you could be in deep @&%#. (sorry, couldn't resist  ) |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 19 Oct 2011 : 19:13:04
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Originally posted by Dennis
Does the Realms have beauty pageants? Miss Faerun? Miss Toril? Mister Hot Bod?
Given that the average person in the Realms doesn't travel too far from home, nor is there a readily-accessible continent-wide (or even country-wide) quick communications system, it's rather unlikely that any beauty pageants are anything other than local affairs.
The idea does make me wonder, however, about magical cosmetics and appearance enhancements. I made up Wooly Rupert's Wondrous Hair Dye a long time ago as a joke, but I can see wealthy people being interested in something like that. Is there magic for re-aligning teeth? Can cantrips be used to wax eyebrows and bikini areas? Can a variant enlarge act as a magical boob job? How about magical clothing that aids in losing weight, or makes one look more trim, or that provides a Charisma bonus? Interesting things to ponder... |
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WizardsHerb
Acolyte
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Posted - 19 Oct 2011 : 19:18:30
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Thanks Seravin!
Haha, I might have to note that one down, Wooly! |
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Dennis
Great Reader
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Posted - 19 Oct 2011 : 20:06:48
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Speaking of aids in losing weight, I wonder why the obese Samas Kul, the Zulkir of Transmutation, didn't try to transmute his fats into air? |
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Ayrik
Great Reader
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Posted - 19 Oct 2011 : 22:50:52
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Did all of the major cities of the realms have decent sewage systems? If not how did they deal with waste?
I can honestly say that after reading 150+ Realms books, this has never crossed my mind
Obviously your NPCs and PCs don't spend enough quality time in the sewers ... |
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Artemas Entreri
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 20 Oct 2011 : 02:21:04
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Originally posted by Ayrik
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entreri3478quote:
Did all of the major cities of the realms have decent sewage systems? If not how did they deal with waste?
I can honestly say that after reading 150+ Realms books, this has never crossed my mind
Obviously your NPCs and PCs don't spend enough quality time in the sewers ...
If we did that then our suede boots would get dirty |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 20 Oct 2011 : 02:49:07
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Originally posted by Dennis
Does the Realms have beauty pageants? Miss Faerun? Miss Toril? Mister Hot Bod?
Certainly, there are Realms individuals whose beauty transcends borders -- either by word-of-mouth, or when your brother or cousin once caught a quick glimpse of Lady Alustriel passing by in the streets of Silverymoon. And this would likely prompt unofficial "contests" between tavern-folk judging the physical appeal of the High Lady of Silverymoon when compared to the stern and militant bearing of the Steel Regent, for example.
But given the lack of Realms-wide communication, I'd imagine running suggest a subjective contest would be incredibly difficult to organise and manage.
At the very least, I'd suspect that more "trashy" chapbooks would run "beauty contests" for local folk in small villages and/or towns, and maybe in some of the areas of disrepute of larger cities. |
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Dennis
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Posted - 20 Oct 2011 : 04:11:37
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Ah, so localized then. Though I think it may be possible for some "allied" realms [like Waterdeep, Silverymoon, and Cormyr] to have an inter-realm pageant. |
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Artemas Entreri
Great Reader
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Posted - 20 Oct 2011 : 13:52:24
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Originally posted by Dennis
Ah, so localized then. Though I think it may be possible for some "allied" realms [like Waterdeep, Silverymoon, and Cormyr] to have an inter-realm pageant.
A "Ms. Waterdeep" pageant wouldn't be fair because half of the people in Waterdeep are actually dopplegangers |
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Dennis
Great Reader
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Posted - 20 Oct 2011 : 16:12:51
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Originally posted by entreri3478
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Originally posted by Dennis
Ah, so localized then. Though I think it may be possible for some "allied" realms [like Waterdeep, Silverymoon, and Cormyr] to have an inter-realm pageant.
A "Ms. Waterdeep" pageant wouldn't be fair because half of the people in Waterdeep are actually dopplegangers
Easily solved: have the Blackstaff as one of the judges in the elimination round, pre-determining if the contestants are real or otherwise. I'm sure Tsara can spare a few hours for the job. |
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Artemas Entreri
Great Reader
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3131 Posts |
Posted - 20 Oct 2011 : 16:41:18
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Originally posted by Dennis
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Originally posted by entreri3478
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Originally posted by Dennis
Ah, so localized then. Though I think it may be possible for some "allied" realms [like Waterdeep, Silverymoon, and Cormyr] to have an inter-realm pageant.
A "Ms. Waterdeep" pageant wouldn't be fair because half of the people in Waterdeep are actually dopplegangers
Easily solved: have the Blackstaff as one of the judges in the elimination round, pre-determining if the contestants are real or otherwise. I'm sure Tsara can spare a few hours for the job.
Next we will be talking about Amnian Idol, and the rest is downhill from there |
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Dennis
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Posted - 20 Oct 2011 : 16:48:42
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That's okay, provided that Milil's servants are banned from joining. [Thayans Got Talent sounds good, too.]
Anyway, given that few realms are friends with each other, I am inclined to agree with Sage that having a Toril-wide beauty pageant is extremely difficult, if not impossible, to organize. |
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Artemas Entreri
Great Reader
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Posted - 20 Oct 2011 : 17:01:43
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Originally posted by Dennis
That's okay, provided that Milil's servants are banned from joining. [Thayans Got Talent sounds good, too.]
Anyway, given that few realms are friends with each other, I am inclined to agree with Sage that having a Toril-wide beauty pageant is extremely difficult, if not impossible, to organize.
Thayans Got Talent sounds interesting, and don't forget that Survivor: Chult airs in the fall |
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TheHermit
Seeker
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Posted - 20 Oct 2011 : 23:28:29
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| Not for nothing, but when those epic types organize beauty contests, you get things like the Trojan War... |
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
USA
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Posted - 01 Nov 2011 : 15:47:19
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Not so stupid question:
Is there a list somewhere of Netherease? I know there are bunch of Netherease names in the Netheril boxed set, but the naming-conventions therein leave much to be desired (plus, I no longer have that source).
Did anybody compile a list of archmages and other characters from the novels? That would be most helpful.
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Not for nothing, but when those epic types organize beauty contests, you get things like the Trojan War...
Well, when you got a lot of soldiers far from home, and lots of beautiful women, and only one box of trojans... yeah... war ensues...
Its only smart to "bag-it" with camp-followers. |
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Dennis
Great Reader
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Posted - 01 Nov 2011 : 16:18:52
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Originally posted by Markustay
Not so stupid question:
Is there a list somewhere of Netherease? I know there are bunch of Netherease names in the Netheril boxed set, but the naming-conventions therein leave much to be desired (plus, I no longer have that source).
Did anybody compile a list of archmages and other characters from the novels? That would be most helpful.
The Archmages of Netheril (Past and Present)
Congenio Ioun
Halavar
Noanar
Tolodine
Trebbe
Aksa
Anglin
Chever
Chronomancer
Fourfinger
Fahren
Enollar
Hamring
Quantoul
Volhm
Lucke
Oberon
Xanad
Karsus
Ioulaum
Larloch
Lady Polaris
Aumvor the Undying
Candlemas
Sysquemalyn
Lady Saharel
Serreg
Telamont Tanthul
Hadrhune
Telamont's sons:
Rivalen
Clariburnus
Brennus
Mattick
Vattick
Yder
Melegaunt
Lamorak
Dethud
Algarel |
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Artemas Entreri
Great Reader
USA
3131 Posts |
Posted - 01 Nov 2011 : 16:30:20
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Originally posted by Dennis
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Originally posted by Markustay
Not so stupid question:
Is there a list somewhere of Netherease? I know there are bunch of Netherease names in the Netheril boxed set, but the naming-conventions therein leave much to be desired (plus, I no longer have that source).
Did anybody compile a list of archmages and other characters from the novels? That would be most helpful.
The Archmages of Netheril (Past and Present)
Congenio Ioun
Halavar
Noanar
Tolodine
Trebbe
Aksa
Anglin
Chever
Chronomancer
Fourfinger
Fahren
Enollar
Hamring
Quantoul
Volhm
Lucke
Oberon
Xanad
Karsus
Ioulaum
Larloch
Lady Polaris
Aumvor the Undying
Candlemas
Sysquemalyn
Lady Saharel
Serreg
Telamont Tanthul
Hadrhune
Telamont's sons:
Rivalen
Clariburnus
Brennus
Mattick
Vattick
Yder
Melegaunt
Lamorak
Dethud
Algarel
I think Dennis wants to be an arch mage of Netheril too |
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Dennis
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Posted - 01 Nov 2011 : 16:41:51
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I think Dennis wants to be an arch mage of Netheril too
Didn't you know that Telamont and I have a bargain? He will relinquish his title, possessions, and power in exchange for something (which I can't say yet) after two millenia, which in Earth Time is equivalent to 2 decades.
That's one of the reasons I am partial to all things Netherese. |
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
USA
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Posted - 01 Nov 2011 : 16:49:50
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Thanks for that Dennis - it was helpful beyond my expectations.
The only common prefix I can discern is "ar" or "er", and amazingly enough, the NPC I want to connect to Netheril already has that going on.
Hmmmmmmm...  |
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Diffan
Great Reader
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Posted - 01 Nov 2011 : 16:50:50
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Originally posted by entreri3478
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Originally posted by Dennis
That's okay, provided that Milil's servants are banned from joining. [Thayans Got Talent sounds good, too.]
Anyway, given that few realms are friends with each other, I am inclined to agree with Sage that having a Toril-wide beauty pageant is extremely difficult, if not impossible, to organize.
Thayans Got Talent sounds interesting, and don't forget that Survivor: Chult airs in the fall
And I hear those crazy, drunk kids are returning for yet another season of Luskan Shore.  |
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
USA
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Posted - 01 Nov 2011 : 16:54:42
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I already have D&D plans for "The Snooki" (based on Southpark's wonderful interpretation of the character).
I am still not sure weather to make it a 'Broken One' (Mongrelman), or a Goblin Rat from Kara-Tur. I guess I could always say t is an awakened(?) Meatball.
Semi-awakened? |
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Dennis
Great Reader
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Posted - 01 Nov 2011 : 16:59:41
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Anytime, MT.
Ed created most of those archmages, so I suggest you give it a try and ask him for more names [and hopefully it's not NDA].
I recall he mentioned Candlemas was only an alias, but I forgot the real name. I wasn't able to save it in my notes. |
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
USA
15724 Posts |
Posted - 01 Nov 2011 : 17:05:13
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The only thing holding me back now from creating a bit of HB lore is a new (for that book) entry in tGHotR on Imaskari history that also uses the name I needed, Dang It. Sometimes that tome cause me more consternation then it fixes.
Ed (and the 4e designers) were right - it is possible to provide too much information in an RPG setting. 
Also, what you just said about Candlemas is interesting, and useful... thanks again. |
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Dennis
Great Reader
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Posted - 02 Nov 2011 : 05:10:13
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Is Transmutation limited to corporeal things? I recall Samas Kul used his most potent spell to transmute the dream vestige and failed. [Though it's likely that the wards Szass Tam placed on it was the one responsible for such failure, more than any other factors, for even a circle of abjurers, led my Lallara herself, encountered the same dilemma.] |
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Ayrik
Great Reader
Canada
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Posted - 02 Nov 2011 : 09:01:06
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| I believe transmuters can manipulate anything, since there are spells which allow them to transform themselves into noncorporeal forms, to transform objects which exist in adjacent planes or dimensions, and even to transform reality itself at profound levels. |
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Dennis
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Posted - 02 Nov 2011 : 09:34:31
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A dangerous thing, but possible. It would take such great power, though, because by trasmuting/altering a reality, they would have to also change all things [material and immaterial] in that reality. |
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Ayrik
Great Reader
Canada
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Posted - 02 Nov 2011 : 11:51:14
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| Magic in D&D is wondrous in that it allows whatever scope the DM/author desires. For the most part things are restricted to limited proximity in time or space or association, reality is changed but only within some sort of local context. Yet there are spells like wish and alter reality and time travel, and things like wild magic ... it is conceivable that all of reality is altered, insofar as the caster can discern, because a new reality (parallel world, whatever) is created to accomodate his magical manipulations. |
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Artemas Entreri
Great Reader
USA
3131 Posts |
Posted - 02 Nov 2011 : 12:28:16
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Originally posted by Ayrik
Magic in D&D is wondrous in that it allows whatever scope the DM/author desires. For the most part things are restricted to limited proximity in time or space or association, reality is changed but only within some sort of local context. Yet there are spells like wish and alter reality and time travel, and things like wild magic ... it is conceivable that all of reality is altered, insofar as the caster can discern, because a new reality (parallel world, whatever) is created to accomodate his magical manipulations.
This sort of reminded me of something i have always been curious about: If you cast a "timestop" spell in a D&D setting, what is the effect on those in the near vicinity? Example: if you cast it in Undermountain, would time stop for all citizens in Waterdeep? |
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