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Caolin
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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Ashe Ravenheart
Great Reader
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Erik Scott de Bie
Forgotten Realms Author
USA
4598 Posts |
 Posted - 10 Aug 2010 : 15:09:06
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You mean like this one? 
I'm shameless, I know.
Cheers
P.S. Not that it's related, but the preview article linked doesn't mention my next FR novel, Shadowbane (Sept 2011), which is to some extent tied into the whole Abyssal Plague event. That was announced at the FR seminar. (Again, shameless.) |
Erik Scott de Bie
'Tis easier to destroy than to create.
Author of a number of Realms novels (GHOSTWALKER, DEPTHS OF MADNESS, and the SHADOWBANE series), contributor to the NEVERWINTER CAMPAIGN GUIDE and SHADOWFELL: GLOOMWROUGHT AND BEYOND, Twitch DM of the Dungeon Scrawlers, currently playing "The Westgate Irregulars" |
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Ashe Ravenheart
Great Reader
USA
3256 Posts |
Posted - 10 Aug 2010 : 15:17:53
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Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie
You mean like this one?
I'm shameless, I know.
Cheers
P.S. Not that it's related, but the preview article linked doesn't mention my next FR novel, Shadowbane (Sept 2011), which is to some extent tied into the whole Abyssal Plague event. That was announced at the FR seminar. (Again, shameless.)
Can you give us any teasers/hints on what the Abyssal Plague is going to include? There's been much speculation on the subject (myself included) that it feels very much like the comic book crossovers that are prevalent nowadays. Any details? |
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Erik Scott de Bie
Forgotten Realms Author
USA
4598 Posts |
Posted - 10 Aug 2010 : 17:28:42
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Sadly, no detail on the Abyssal Plague--partly because I can't talk about it, and partly because I just don't know much and don't want to spread misinformation. I suggest checking out the prelude chapters by James Wyatt in the various novels in which they appear (including the paperback Ghost King and Mark of Nerath, for the first two).
Also, AFAIK, comic book crossovers have always been prevalent, and frankly, if that's what it is, I think that's a neat direction for WotC to go.
What I *can* say is that my novel is going to tie into it, but be a very much Forgotten Realms novel that you don't need to have read anything else to understand and enjoy (hopefully)!
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Erik Scott de Bie
'Tis easier to destroy than to create.
Author of a number of Realms novels (GHOSTWALKER, DEPTHS OF MADNESS, and the SHADOWBANE series), contributor to the NEVERWINTER CAMPAIGN GUIDE and SHADOWFELL: GLOOMWROUGHT AND BEYOND, Twitch DM of the Dungeon Scrawlers, currently playing "The Westgate Irregulars" |
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Garen Thal
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Posted - 10 Aug 2010 : 17:39:33
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Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie
What I *can* say is that my novel is going to tie into it, but be a very much Forgotten Realms novel that you don't need to have read anything else to understand and enjoy (hopefully)!
True enough, though [buying and] reading Downshadow certainly wouldn't hurt. ;) |
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Caolin
Senior Scribe
769 Posts |
Posted - 10 Aug 2010 : 17:45:34
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Originally posted by The Sage
Actually, it's already being discussed in various other scrolls around Candlekeep -- such as the "Gen Con 2010" scroll for example.
heh, I figured it was being discussed somewhere but I couldn't find a devoted thread. :) |
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Caolin
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 10 Aug 2010 : 17:48:41
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Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie
Sadly, no detail on the Abyssal Plague--partly because I can't talk about it, and partly because I just don't know much and don't want to spread misinformation. I suggest checking out the prelude chapters by James Wyatt in the various novels in which they appear (including the paperback Ghost King and Mark of Nerath, for the first two).
Also, AFAIK, comic book crossovers have always been prevalent, and frankly, if that's what it is, I think that's a neat direction for WotC to go.
What I *can* say is that my novel is going to tie into it, but be a very much Forgotten Realms novel that you don't need to have read anything else to understand and enjoy (hopefully)!
Cheers
Have have to admit, this cross setting world shaking event is making me consider reading DnD novels outside of the Realms setting again. Well played WoTC....for once. ;) |
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Erik Scott de Bie
Forgotten Realms Author
USA
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Posted - 10 Aug 2010 : 20:54:50
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Originally posted by Garen Thal
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Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie
What I *can* say is that my novel is going to tie into it, but be a very much Forgotten Realms novel that you don't need to have read anything else to understand and enjoy (hopefully)!
True enough, though [buying and] reading Downshadow certainly wouldn't hurt. ;)
Well, I wasn't gonna say it. 
Cheers |
Erik Scott de Bie
'Tis easier to destroy than to create.
Author of a number of Realms novels (GHOSTWALKER, DEPTHS OF MADNESS, and the SHADOWBANE series), contributor to the NEVERWINTER CAMPAIGN GUIDE and SHADOWFELL: GLOOMWROUGHT AND BEYOND, Twitch DM of the Dungeon Scrawlers, currently playing "The Westgate Irregulars" |
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The Red Walker
Great Reader
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Posted - 10 Aug 2010 : 21:34:34
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Originally posted by Caolin
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Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie
Sadly, no detail on the Abyssal Plague--partly because I can't talk about it, and partly because I just don't know much and don't want to spread misinformation. I suggest checking out the prelude chapters by James Wyatt in the various novels in which they appear (including the paperback Ghost King and Mark of Nerath, for the first two).
Also, AFAIK, comic book crossovers have always been prevalent, and frankly, if that's what it is, I think that's a neat direction for WotC to go.
What I *can* say is that my novel is going to tie into it, but be a very much Forgotten Realms novel that you don't need to have read anything else to understand and enjoy (hopefully)!
Cheers
Have have to admit, this cross setting world shaking event is making me consider reading DnD novels outside of the Realms setting again. Well played WoTC....for once. ;)
I hate to say it, but it's making me consider not reading any D&D novels. Ive had enough mega events and cross-universe tie ins. (Wasn't there a kender roaming the realms at some point? )
Two big cheers for Erik if his Novel can be read and fully ejoyed without being herded to another D&D novel line. If anyone can pull it off he can. |
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Bakra
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 10 Aug 2010 : 22:27:36
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Originally posted by The Red Walker
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Originally posted by Caolin
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Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie
Sadly, no detail on the Abyssal Plague--partly because I can't talk about it, and partly because I just don't know much and don't want to spread misinformation. I suggest checking out the prelude chapters by James Wyatt in the various novels in which they appear (including the paperback Ghost King and Mark of Nerath, for the first two).
Also, AFAIK, comic book crossovers have always been prevalent, and frankly, if that's what it is, I think that's a neat direction for WotC to go.
What I *can* say is that my novel is going to tie into it, but be a very much Forgotten Realms novel that you don't need to have read anything else to understand and enjoy (hopefully)!
Cheers
Have have to admit, this cross setting world shaking event is making me consider reading DnD novels outside of the Realms setting again. Well played WoTC....for once. ;)
I hate to say it, but it's making me consider not reading any D&D novels. Ive had enough mega events and cross-universe tie ins. (Wasn't there a kender roaming the realms at some point?)
Do you mean you are tired of cross overs in general? Because the last D&D cross over, Finder's Bane with the Kender, was over 13 years ago. |
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The Red Walker
Great Reader
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Posted - 11 Aug 2010 : 01:17:32
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Yes, tired of crossovers in general.( although that one 13 years ago was so off putting for me, that it doesn't help!) I'm tiredvof trying to br lured into buying things I do not want. I do not want to buy a eberon novel. Never will, even if Storm herself makes a journey there. I don't want to buy a d&d novel( the continued shrinking of the FR logo is particular gauling, considering FR novels have been the standard that floats wizard boat). I don't want hp love crafts nightmare welded onto the edge faerun. I don't want raven loft to appear somewhere near vassa or legolas to meet drizzt and kick butt together. Cheers to those who like it, that cool. But i don't want a five part multi-whatever shaking event, and I'm really tired of shaking things up.....let's stick with great storytelling like Erik, Ed ,Elaine and others are doing and not worry about tying all of our product lines together.
It should be about the stories.
I really didn't want to get on a soap box, i was just trying to say it turned me off, but hoped Erik handles the tie in with his Novel shadowbane as well as I think he can, if he is allowed to.
I can't relate how happy i was for Erik when I heard he was going to get to write Shadowbane. And happy for myself as well to get a chance to read it. But, I was almost equally disappointed to hear it would be tied into the Abbysal plague....I fear it could compromise the story and hope that something is not being forced in to make the tie.
P.S. It just not wotc...I don't want to see GI Joe fighting deceptions or spongebob cavorting with bugs! |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 11 Aug 2010 : 01:23:33
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Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie
Also, AFAIK, comic book crossovers have always been prevalent, and frankly, if that's what it is, I think that's a neat direction for WotC to go.
I'm thinking what Ashe means, is the way in which most comic crossovers are conducted these days. Back in the pre-2000 period, most crossovers would tend to focus only on a particular branch of a particular comic universe, like say, the various "X-Men titles" from Marvel.
Nowadays, comic crossovers tend to span almost every major core title of a universe, as well as producing a mini-series for the story, like Marvel's Secret Invasion.
This "Abyssal Plague" storyline would seem to follow a style similar to the second example above. |
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sfdragon
Great Reader
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Posted - 11 Aug 2010 : 02:17:16
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why is being a wizard like being a drow? both are likely to find a dagger in the back from a rival or one looking to further his own goals, fame and power
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Kilvan
Senior Scribe
Canada
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Posted - 11 Aug 2010 : 02:52:48
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Originally posted by sfdragon
Will crossroads keep from nwn2 be mentioned in it???
Could be, it might be a good occasion to canonise some/all events/characters from NWN2. Might be more difficult for the first expansion (MotB), but quite easier for the second (SoZ). |
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sfdragon
Great Reader
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Posted - 11 Aug 2010 : 02:59:17
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what would of made it difficult for motb??
we didn't kill no big M like in nwn hotu |
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Razz
Senior Scribe
USA
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Posted - 11 Aug 2010 : 03:09:15
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Kilvan
Senior Scribe
Canada
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Posted - 11 Aug 2010 : 03:15:16
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Originally posted by sfdragon
what would of made it difficult for motb??
we didn't kill no big M like in nwn hotu
I dunno, mostly because the events in MotB are more important than in the other campaigns, involving the current fate of Myrkul, a war to break down the wall of the faithless and possibly unleashing/cleansing a terrible curse in Rashemen. I do agree that these events are far from those in hordes of the undedark (in which you DO beat Mephistopheles in the middle of Waterdeep, hard to canonise). |
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Kilvan
Senior Scribe
Canada
896 Posts |
Posted - 11 Aug 2010 : 03:17:27
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| And now that I think about it, the events of MotB (or SoZ) have absolutly no impact on Neverwinter, besides the fact that the main character is the same as the one who fought the king of shadows in the main campaign. So they might be left out of the book for that reason. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
37011 Posts |
Posted - 11 Aug 2010 : 03:43:42
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Originally posted by Bakra
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Originally posted by The Red Walker
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Originally posted by Caolin
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Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie
Sadly, no detail on the Abyssal Plague--partly because I can't talk about it, and partly because I just don't know much and don't want to spread misinformation. I suggest checking out the prelude chapters by James Wyatt in the various novels in which they appear (including the paperback Ghost King and Mark of Nerath, for the first two).
Also, AFAIK, comic book crossovers have always been prevalent, and frankly, if that's what it is, I think that's a neat direction for WotC to go.
What I *can* say is that my novel is going to tie into it, but be a very much Forgotten Realms novel that you don't need to have read anything else to understand and enjoy (hopefully)!
Cheers
Have have to admit, this cross setting world shaking event is making me consider reading DnD novels outside of the Realms setting again. Well played WoTC....for once. ;)
I hate to say it, but it's making me consider not reading any D&D novels. Ive had enough mega events and cross-universe tie ins. (Wasn't there a kender roaming the realms at some point?)
Do you mean you are tired of cross overs in general? Because the last D&D cross over, Finder's Bane with the Kender, was over 13 years ago.
And I'd hardly consider a single character wanting to go to a different world a crossover... The history of the Realms has always included folk from other worlds, and/or Realmsfolk going to other worlds. We've got the various racial migrations, we've got planeswalkers going to and fro, we've had spelljammers... There's even a Newhon ghoul mentioned in Code of the Harpers.
Still, I don't consider those crossovers. My definition of crossover comes from comics, where a cameo does not a crossover make. Crossovers in comics are big events, and include prominent characters... The Abyssal Plague has all the appearance of being that kind of crossover.
And since crossovers are one of the things that drove me away from comics, WotC doing the same thing is not something I can regard in a positive manner. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 11 Aug 2010 : 04:26:11
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
And I'd hardly consider a single character wanting to go to a different world a crossover... The history of the Realms has always included folk from other worlds, and/or Realmsfolk going to other worlds. We've got the various racial migrations, we've got planeswalkers going to and fro, we've had spelljammers... There's even a Newhon ghoul mentioned in Code of the Harpers.
Ed's made this clear in repeated replies over the years, here at Candlekeep. The "Forgotten" Realms are known as such, partly, because of the 'forgotten' and once-widely-used gates to Toril from other worlds, like our Earth for example.
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Still, I don't consider those crossovers. My definition of crossover comes from comics, where a cameo does not a crossover make.
They would usually amount to "guest-stars or team-ups," like Daredevil featuring in the Amazing Spider-Man to combat the Kingpin.
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Crossovers in comics are big events, and include prominent characters... The Abyssal Plague has all the appearance of being that kind of crossover.
They're bigger business now, as they often seem to lay the foundation for years-long universe-wide story-arcs... like DC's Blackest Night eventually leading to the Brightest Day brand headlining most of the major DC comics.
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Caolin
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 11 Aug 2010 : 06:00:43
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by Bakra
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Originally posted by The Red Walker
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Originally posted by Caolin
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Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie
Sadly, no detail on the Abyssal Plague--partly because I can't talk about it, and partly because I just don't know much and don't want to spread misinformation. I suggest checking out the prelude chapters by James Wyatt in the various novels in which they appear (including the paperback Ghost King and Mark of Nerath, for the first two).
Also, AFAIK, comic book crossovers have always been prevalent, and frankly, if that's what it is, I think that's a neat direction for WotC to go.
What I *can* say is that my novel is going to tie into it, but be a very much Forgotten Realms novel that you don't need to have read anything else to understand and enjoy (hopefully)!
Cheers
Have have to admit, this cross setting world shaking event is making me consider reading DnD novels outside of the Realms setting again. Well played WoTC....for once. ;)
I hate to say it, but it's making me consider not reading any D&D novels. Ive had enough mega events and cross-universe tie ins. (Wasn't there a kender roaming the realms at some point?)
Do you mean you are tired of cross overs in general? Because the last D&D cross over, Finder's Bane with the Kender, was over 13 years ago.
And I'd hardly consider a single character wanting to go to a different world a crossover... The history of the Realms has always included folk from other worlds, and/or Realmsfolk going to other worlds. We've got the various racial migrations, we've got planeswalkers going to and fro, we've had spelljammers... There's even a Newhon ghoul mentioned in Code of the Harpers.
Still, I don't consider those crossovers. My definition of crossover comes from comics, where a cameo does not a crossover make. Crossovers in comics are big events, and include prominent characters... The Abyssal Plague has all the appearance of being that kind of crossover.
And since crossovers are one of the things that drove me away from comics, WotC doing the same thing is not something I can regard in a positive manner.
I look at it like this. All of the settings are under the umbrella of Dungeons and Dragons. They all exist in the same multiverse but on different planes. I've always enjoyed the little references here and there acknowledging those other worlds, either directly or indirectly in FR literature. But what I enjoy more is the idea that only a handful of people in the whole plane even know of the existence of other worlds. I also don't think that there should ever be an easy way for anyone to "crossover". So as long as there isn't abuse of this dynamic than I am all for it. I also can accept that there is this multiverse spanning event that will affect all of the settings and might entail a character or two venturing out of their setting as a result of the event. My 2 cents. |
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Erik Scott de Bie
Forgotten Realms Author
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Posted - 11 Aug 2010 : 07:41:57
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Originally posted by The Red Walker
It should be about the stories.
I really didn't want to get on a soap box, i was just trying to say it turned me off, but hoped Erik handles the tie in with his Novel shadowbane as well as I think he can, if he is allowed to.
I can't relate how happy i was for Erik when I heard he was going to get to write Shadowbane. And happy for myself as well to get a chance to read it. But, I was almost equally disappointed to hear it would be tied into the Abbysal plague....I fear it could compromise the story and hope that something is not being forced in to make the tie.
Agreed, and the story takes precedence in my book. I didn't feel forced at all. There are elements that link it to the Abyssal Plague story, but if you haven't been reading that, then you'll gloss right over them.
Also, Shadowbane, Myrin, Twilight, and all my other characters are going NOWHERE NEAR portals to other worlds, rest assured, and neither is Strahd, Raistlin, or one of those darn kender going to show up in one of my novels. Everything I have thus far written is firmly grounded in the Realms, and I have no intention of leaving, and I have no reason to think the other books in the AP series are any different.
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Originally posted by Razz
Meh, I care less for this and I can't really state why out of fear for starting a flame war.
Respectfully, so why even post in this thread in the first place?
That's like going to a Yankees game, reserving a boxed seat, and cheerfully announcing to the camera that you don't like the Yankees.
I mean, why waste the time?
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'Tis easier to destroy than to create.
Author of a number of Realms novels (GHOSTWALKER, DEPTHS OF MADNESS, and the SHADOWBANE series), contributor to the NEVERWINTER CAMPAIGN GUIDE and SHADOWFELL: GLOOMWROUGHT AND BEYOND, Twitch DM of the Dungeon Scrawlers, currently playing "The Westgate Irregulars" |
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The Red Walker
Great Reader
USA
3567 Posts |
Posted - 11 Aug 2010 : 14:28:57
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Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie
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Originally posted by The Red Walker
It should be about the stories.
I really didn't want to get on a soap box, i was just trying to say it turned me off, but hoped Erik handles the tie in with his Novel shadowbane as well as I think he can, if he is allowed to.
I can't relate how happy i was for Erik when I heard he was going to get to write Shadowbane. And happy for myself as well to get a chance to read it. But, I was almost equally disappointed to hear it would be tied into the Abbysal plague....I fear it could compromise the story and hope that something is not being forced in to make the tie.
Agreed, and the story takes precedence in my book. I didn't feel forced at all. There are elements that link it to the Abyssal Plague story, but if you haven't been reading that, then you'll gloss right over them.
Also, Shadowbane, Myrin, Twilight, and all my other characters are going NOWHERE NEAR portals to other worlds, rest assured, and neither is Strahd, Raistlin, or one of those darn kender going to show up in one of my novels. Everything I have thus far written is firmly grounded in the Realms, and I have no intention of leaving, and I have no reason to think the other books in the AP series are any different.
Cheers
Thanks for the follow up and glad to hear it. I can happily say I am still eagerly awaiting Shadowbane!
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
USA
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Posted - 11 Aug 2010 : 20:08:05
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Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie
Respectfully, so why even post in this thread in the first place?
That's like going to a Yankees game, reserving a boxed seat, and cheerfully announcing to the camera that you don't like the Yankees.
I mean, why waste the time?
Cheers
AGREED
Why bash a product(s) before its even out? I'm adopting a 'wait and see' attitude for all future WotC merchandise at this point.
Think about it - just the fact we are getting a Neverwinter product goes against their original 4e plan of "a setting a year... and then nothing..". Why be negative about something, when this could be the very 'break' we have been looking for? If this is a response to our cries for "More!", then we should at the very least have the decency to give the designers the benefit of the doubt and see whats-what before we cry 'foul'. We asked for this - don't sabotage it before it even sees the light of day. |
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Kilvan
Senior Scribe
Canada
896 Posts |
Posted - 11 Aug 2010 : 20:55:42
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Originally posted by Markustay
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Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie
Respectfully, so why even post in this thread in the first place?
That's like going to a Yankees game, reserving a boxed seat, and cheerfully announcing to the camera that you don't like the Yankees.
I mean, why waste the time?
Cheers
AGREED
Why bash a product(s) before its even out? I'm adopting a 'wait and see' attitude for all future WotC merchandise at this point.
Think about it - just the fact we are getting a Neverwinter product goes against their original 4e plan of "a setting a year... and then nothing..". Why be negative about something, when this could be the very 'break' we have been looking for? If this is a response to our cries for "More!", then we should at the very least have the decency to give the designers the benefit of the doubt and see whats-what before we cry 'foul'. We asked for this - don't sabotage it before it even sees the light of day.
Indeed. I'll give this one its chance. I did the same with 4th edition novels, and boy am I glad I did (Blackstaff Tower rocked) |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
37011 Posts |
Posted - 12 Aug 2010 : 00:32:20
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Originally posted by Markustay
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Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie
Respectfully, so why even post in this thread in the first place?
That's like going to a Yankees game, reserving a boxed seat, and cheerfully announcing to the camera that you don't like the Yankees.
I mean, why waste the time?
Cheers
AGREED
Why bash a product(s) before its even out? I'm adopting a 'wait and see' attitude for all future WotC merchandise at this point.
I agree. This product may not be exciting me the way past FR products did, but I'll still give it a shot. I won't be rushing out to buy it the way I used to, but I will buy it as soon after its release as I can. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 12 Aug 2010 : 01:19:11
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| Well, I'm going to be all over this product. I've never actually had the inclination to run a campaign in Neverwinter before, but I'm intrigued by what Erik's said about this being a "fully-realised" FR product. So I suspect my players will be preparing themselves for an adventure or three in Neverwinter, come late 2011. |
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Sylrae
Learned Scribe
Canada
313 Posts |
Posted - 12 Aug 2010 : 02:45:04
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I'm definitely going to pick it up. I'm not a big fan of post-spellplague, but I do like the city of neverwinter.
I'd love to see a campaign guide that's entirely based on Neverwinter Nights 1, in the main campaign. All of the maps, to scale. Prominent NPCs motivations and whatnot detailed. Stat blocks would be nice, but not necessary, just tell me what level they are and what class. Mention any spells they make heavy use of. |
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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore
Australia
6692 Posts |
Posted - 12 Aug 2010 : 06:11:18
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It's a Forgotten Realms product. Of course I'll buy it. The fact that Erik had a hand in it will make it all the sweeter.
-- George Krashos
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Neverwinter Nights Campaign Guide
