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EltonJ
Learned Scribe
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 Posted - 08 Sep 2010 : 01:18:14
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I just had a thought. Talos has a portfolio over the Weather. What if . . . he had druids too?
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Alystra Illianniis
Great Reader
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idilippy
Senior Scribe
USA
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Posted - 08 Sep 2010 : 01:34:34
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| I don't see why he couldn't have druids worshiping him, especially ones who focus on the destructive power of nature or who actively want to sow chaos and bring the civilized world back to a survival of the fittest state of being. Druids worship Malar after all, and Talos doesn't seem to be any more destructive of a deity than Malar is. Also, since Faiths and Pantheons lists druids under Talos' worshipers it seems that there are druids who follow Talos. |
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Alystra Illianniis
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Dalor Darden
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 08 Sep 2010 : 01:55:13
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I agree that he should have druids too...
However, when D&D was first "about" and Ed Greenwood brought his Forgotten Realms to mesh with the rules for Advanced Dungeons and Dragons, there were certain things that "couldn't be" I guess.
Talos was evil...but ALL druids were Neutral then.
I think it would be perfectly fine to have Druids of Talos. If someone like Moander or Malar can have druidic worshipers...Talos sure fits the mold as far as I'm concerned. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Dennis
Great Reader
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Posted - 08 Sep 2010 : 13:27:15
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Originally posted by idilippy
I don't see why he couldn't have druids worshiping him, especially ones who focus on the destructive power of nature or who actively want to sow chaos and bring the civilized world back to a survival of the fittest state of being. Druids worship Malar after all, and Talos doesn't seem to be any more destructive of a deity than Malar is. Also, since Faiths and Pantheons lists druids under Talos' worshipers it seems that there are druids who follow Talos.
Indeed. And correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't some of the druids in The Year of Rogue Dragons worshipers of Talos? Can't remember if it was mentioned, though.
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Ralderick Hallowshaw
Acolyte
Italy
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Posted - 09 Sep 2010 : 17:11:06
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| IIRC, Talos is mentioned (FRCG p.23) between Nature Deities, so I think he can grant powers to characters belonging to this class. |
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
USA
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Posted - 09 Sep 2010 : 19:35:20
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Meteomancers?
Skywardens?
Aeroturgists?
Give 'em a unique twist, and almost anything will work in the Realms.  |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 10 Sep 2010 : 02:05:19
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Originally posted by Markustay
Meteomancers?
Skywardens?
Aeroturgists?
Give 'em a unique twist, and almost anything will work in the Realms.
I'd just call 'em storm druids.  |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 10 Sep 2010 : 02:45:20
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by Markustay
Meteomancers?
Skywardens?
Aeroturgists?
Give 'em a unique twist, and almost anything will work in the Realms.
I'd just call 'em storm druids.
I've actually been considering two terms in my Realms -- Storm Druids [or Fury Druids, if only because Storm Druids reminds me a little too much of the Talassan Stormlords] for most human and demi-human druidic servants of Talos, and Stormstar Druids for the now significant orcish druid following Talos has as a result of the revelations of the Stormstar Requiem. |
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Jakk
Great Reader
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Posted - 12 Sep 2010 : 07:37:17
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| I've had druids of Talos in my Realms for a while... I eliminated the "True Neutral only" alignment requirement long before 3E did. And yes, in some ways they do resemble the 3E blighters, but mostly they're focused on the worship of the storm as a deadly and unpredictable force of nature that should be treated with respect and reverence. I turned them into a prestige class shortly after 3E came out and called them Stormwardens (which term, I believe, is now used for something 4E). |
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
USA
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Posted - 12 Sep 2010 : 22:39:15
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by Markustay
Meteomancers?
Skywardens?
Aeroturgists?
Give 'em a unique twist, and almost anything will work in the Realms.
I'd just call 'em storm druids.
Maybe a compromise - Stormwardens.
'Storm druids' just sounds so... derivitive... to me, at any rate. I know that's what they are, but Kewl names is what Fantasy is all about.
Would Aragorn been half as cool if his name was Ranger-Rick?
Then again, 'Warden' sounds a bit... calm. That is too mellow and tame for Talos. Sounds more like a group that would try to keep storms in-check.
Stormragers?
That would make a neat PrC, requiring levels in Barbarian and Druid. Maybe they could deal electrical damage while enraged? |
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Sill Alias
Senior Scribe
Kazakhstan
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Posted - 13 Sep 2010 : 04:17:29
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Not really...What if to give Stormwardens protective abilities with which they can blast out latent fury, like collecting damage in psionic shield... Wait, it sounds like Illmater PrC. Maybe thunder or elements immunity? Thundershield? |
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idilippy
Senior Scribe
USA
417 Posts |
Posted - 13 Sep 2010 : 06:15:53
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| Well, since Talos is all about destruction I think Markustay has it right about making their abilities destructive too. Talos likely wouldn't grant his followers defensive spells and abilities since he revels in destruction above all else, at least the way I see him that's how he would act. |
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Alystra Illianniis
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Kno
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 15 Sep 2010 : 13:18:31
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| Stormwardens makes sense because fearful people will pray for protection, Stormragers for madmen cultists. |
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
USA
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Posted - 15 Sep 2010 : 20:25:19
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There is room for both.
A Druid/Barbarian class that brings 'righteous fury' upon the 'unpious', and Stormwarden druid that 'asks' for donations to the church of Talos, to "abate his relentless fury'.
And of course, the two would be working together - amazing how those freak tornadoes only manage to take-down building belonging to folk who didn't 'give' to the church. 
I could definitely see Talos' followers running a 'protection racket'. It could even be something the regular priesthood frowns upon ("No-one may be spared the wrath of Talos' Fury!")
The Stormwardens would be traveling druids that pick-up the 'offerings' at Talos' shrines in small settlements throughout The North, and the 'ragers would be sent a list (via some animal, naturally) of those communities who's tithings fell a bit... short.
I always try to figure out how the church of each god would fit into the normal scheme of things in everyday life in Faerun. I should do a netbook on the subject...
.. right after I finish the other 500 projects ahead of it.
Hey! I think I just acquired The Sage PrC class!  |
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Alystra Illianniis
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31799 Posts |
Posted - 16 Sep 2010 : 02:25:53
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Originally posted by Markustay
Hey! I think I just acquired The Sage PrC class!
Heh. It's one of the more detailed PrC, for sure. Taking up about twenty or so pages of rules, special abilities, and supernatural powers to help supplement my control of the long-fabled mysteries granted by the mystical "Sphere of Ultimate To-Do Lists."  |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
37008 Posts |
Posted - 16 Sep 2010 : 04:30:16
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Originally posted by The Sage
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Originally posted by Markustay
Hey! I think I just acquired The Sage PrC class!
Heh. It's one of the more detailed PrC, for sure. Taking up about twenty or so pages of rules, special abilities, and supernatural powers to help supplement my control of the long-fabled mysteries granted by the mystical "Sphere of Ultimate To-Do Lists."
19.8 of those pages are various procrastination-based powers! |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 16 Sep 2010 : 04:45:50
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by The Sage
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Originally posted by Markustay
Hey! I think I just acquired The Sage PrC class!
Heh. It's one of the more detailed PrC, for sure. Taking up about twenty or so pages of rules, special abilities, and supernatural powers to help supplement my control of the long-fabled mysteries granted by the mystical "Sphere of Ultimate To-Do Lists."
19.8 of those pages are various procrastination-based powers!
Well, I am the World's Greatest Procrastinator, after all.  |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
37008 Posts |
Posted - 16 Sep 2010 : 05:01:04
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Originally posted by The Sage
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by The Sage
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Originally posted by Markustay
Hey! I think I just acquired The Sage PrC class!
Heh. It's one of the more detailed PrC, for sure. Taking up about twenty or so pages of rules, special abilities, and supernatural powers to help supplement my control of the long-fabled mysteries granted by the mystical "Sphere of Ultimate To-Do Lists."
19.8 of those pages are various procrastination-based powers!
Well, I am the World's Greatest Procrastinator, after all.
Only when you can get around to it! |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Kno
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 16 Sep 2010 : 08:40:24
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Originally posted by Markustay
amazing how those freak tornadoes only manage to take-down building belonging to folk who didn't 'give' to the church.
 that's like in one of Feist's novels, when demons appeared in the countryside, a traveler who could banish them conveniently appeared |
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