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 When i raise my CON, do i gain hp retroactively?
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Jeffrie
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Posted - 16 Sep 2010 :  19:21:18  Show Profile  Visit Jeffrie's Homepage Send Jeffrie a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
I'm probably looking in the wrong place.

I'd love to try some pbp, but never have. PM me a game i could lurk at. I think it would be fun to play with someone who has tabletop software.

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Posted - 16 Sep 2010 :  19:34:08  Show Profile  Visit Xysma's Homepage Send Xysma a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Yes, you do get retroactive hitpoints if your Con goes up, just as you lose them from your total if it goes down. I am speaking of 3e rules here, I can't remember 2nd, and don't know 4th.

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Diffan
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Posted - 16 Sep 2010 :  20:18:11  Show Profile Send Diffan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
As Xysma said, you gain them retroactively as in 1 hp per level of an ability modifier increase. Meaning a +1 mod bonus at 15th level would net you an extra 15 hp.

4E's hit points don't rely on Con, they are static bonuses gained per level. (well they do, but just at first level and it's done by your CON score, not modifier).

Edited by - Diffan on 16 Sep 2010 20:18:49
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Erik Scott de Bie
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Posted - 16 Sep 2010 :  21:03:05  Show Profile  Visit Erik Scott de Bie's Homepage Send Erik Scott de Bie a Private Message  Reply with Quote
In 4e, if your CON score rises, you get additional hit poitns equal to the rise (regardless of what level you might be). So a 1st level wizard with a con of 10 and 16 hit points gets 4 extra hit points if his con suddently becomes 14, just like a 14th level swordmage with 18 con and 116 hit points gains 2 extra hit points if her con increases to 20.

In 2e, I'm pretty sure you did *NOT* get extra hit points retroactively, but it's been a long time since I played that edition, so you'll want to consult a 2e expert.

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EltonJ
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Posted - 16 Sep 2010 :  21:14:40  Show Profile  Visit EltonJ's Homepage Send EltonJ a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie



In 2e, I'm pretty sure you did *NOT* get extra hit points retroactively, but it's been a long time since I played that edition, so you'll want to consult a 2e expert.

Cheers



Or you could check the rules yourself in 2e. That depends if you still have your books or not. I'm conservatively inclined to say . . . no.
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IngoDjan
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Posted - 16 Sep 2010 :  21:58:30  Show Profile  Visit IngoDjan's Homepage Send IngoDjan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Yes! I all editions!

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Diffan
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quote:
Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie

In 4e, if your CON score rises, you get additional hit poitns equal to the rise (regardless of what level you might be). So a 1st level wizard with a con of 10 and 16 hit points gets 4 extra hit points if his con suddently becomes 14, just like a 14th level swordmage with 18 con and 116 hit points gains 2 extra hit points if her con increases to 20.



Doh, yea I totally forgot about that.
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Hoondatha
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Posted - 17 Sep 2010 :  00:05:53  Show Profile  Visit Hoondatha's Homepage Send Hoondatha a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Concur with IDj. I just checked my 2e PHB and it explicitly states that you retroactively gain HP when your Con goes up.

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Sigh... And now 4e as well.
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Erik Scott de Bie
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Posted - 17 Sep 2010 :  04:55:08  Show Profile  Visit Erik Scott de Bie's Homepage Send Erik Scott de Bie a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by EltonJ

Or you could check the rules yourself in 2e. That depends if you still have your books or not. I'm conservatively inclined to say . . . no.
Can't, actually.

In fact, I played 2e for five years and never actually owned a PHB myself. Mostly, I was the DM, so i didn't really need it.

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