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Nicolai Withander
Master of Realmslore

Denmark
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Posted - 24 Sep 2010 :  15:00:40  Show Profile Send Nicolai Withander a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Great article...

Cant help thinking about how the world were when I took my first steps in it. Was it a better world, maybe not, but it was "safe" and when I look back its like the christmas from your childhood. One always remember it as being better than then ones you have now. I think its the same for the realms. The "new guys now will look back in 5-10 years and think, that the realms were better in the old days.

I for one do not like what has happened, but still it has. I can either accept it and move on, or moan about it and linger...

We must all remember that what makes the relams so loved is that so many things has happened and so much have changed. If the realms had been a static world without change, it might very well bee a very uninteresting place.


One thing I am curious about thouhg is... I would give my right leg for a chance to sit in on a gaming session with Ed and the Homeland party of players... just to see what has happened in his "own" forgotten realms!

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Mr_Miscellany
Senior Scribe

545 Posts

Posted - 24 Sep 2010 :  17:43:03  Show Profile Send Mr_Miscellany a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

I've read the FRCG cover to cover, and I was most underwhelmed by it.
Try putting on your reading glasses next time?

quote:
Originally posted by Nicolai Withander

We must all remember that what makes the relams so loved is that so many things has happened and so much have changed. If the realms had been a static world without change, it might very well be a very uninteresting place.
+1.

Edited by - Mr_Miscellany on 24 Sep 2010 17:45:01
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idilippy
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USA
417 Posts

Posted - 24 Sep 2010 :  17:53:17  Show Profile Send idilippy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
While it's true that a world with absolutely no change would be a bad thing, it doesn't logically follow that change itself is always a good thing. It is possible to change and adapt without going overboard about it. But anyways, this isn't really a thread to debate whether the changes were good or bad so that's enough said by me on that subject.

On a different note, where can I find more information on the Neverwinter Campaign Guide that's coming out? So far all I have seen on WotC's site is that the planned release is 3rd quarter of 2011. Does anyone know more specifically what it's going to cover(other than Neverwinter, I kinda get that it will cover that)?
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althen artren
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USA
780 Posts

Posted - 24 Sep 2010 :  21:53:22  Show Profile Send althen artren a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Sorry Ashe my friend, but I most respectfully disagree with
you. I must reserve my right to b*%!+. I need an outlet,
not that I need to b&$!# these days since I don't buy anything>
I'll hide thank you

"DA*^ KIDS, get off my lawn! Oh, my Depends just bust!
Wheres my pudding?"

Edited by - althen artren on 24 Sep 2010 21:55:40
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Erik Scott de Bie
Forgotten Realms Author

USA
4598 Posts

Posted - 25 Sep 2010 :  01:33:55  Show Profile  Visit Erik Scott de Bie's Homepage Send Erik Scott de Bie a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Lords and Ladies, let's not turn this into an edition wars thing.

quote:
Originally posted by idilippy

On a different note, where can I find more information on the Neverwinter Campaign Guide that's coming out? So far all I have seen on WotC's site is that the planned release is 3rd quarter of 2011. Does anyone know more specifically what it's going to cover(other than Neverwinter, I kinda get that it will cover that)?
Well, I do--but then, I wrote about a third of it. And unfortunately, I can't tell you anything about it . . . other than that it isn't quite like anything WotC has ever done before, it's a LOT of story, and that it includes the Bladesinger class.

Cheers

Erik Scott de Bie

'Tis easier to destroy than to create.

Author of a number of Realms novels (GHOSTWALKER, DEPTHS OF MADNESS, and the SHADOWBANE series), contributor to the NEVERWINTER CAMPAIGN GUIDE and SHADOWFELL: GLOOMWROUGHT AND BEYOND, Twitch DM of the Dungeon Scrawlers, currently playing "The Westgate Irregulars"
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idilippy
Senior Scribe

USA
417 Posts

Posted - 25 Sep 2010 :  03:56:34  Show Profile Send idilippy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hmm, well that's not much information but I understand you can't say very much about it before it comes out. I guess I'll just have to skim it when it comes out and see what it's like then. I'm interested in it as a source of ideas and inspiration since I don't use 4e mechanics so having a lot of story is a big plus to me.

Edited by - idilippy on 25 Sep 2010 03:56:57
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althen artren
Senior Scribe

USA
780 Posts

Posted - 27 Sep 2010 :  02:52:46  Show Profile Send althen artren a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Oh, Erik, Erik, Erik,

I have never been involved in a flame war, except to
make fun of both sides.
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Erik Scott de Bie
Forgotten Realms Author

USA
4598 Posts

Posted - 27 Sep 2010 :  15:59:16  Show Profile  Visit Erik Scott de Bie's Homepage Send Erik Scott de Bie a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Oh, the comment wasn't directed toward you, AA--it was general and addressed several comments made earlier.

Cheers

Erik Scott de Bie

'Tis easier to destroy than to create.

Author of a number of Realms novels (GHOSTWALKER, DEPTHS OF MADNESS, and the SHADOWBANE series), contributor to the NEVERWINTER CAMPAIGN GUIDE and SHADOWFELL: GLOOMWROUGHT AND BEYOND, Twitch DM of the Dungeon Scrawlers, currently playing "The Westgate Irregulars"
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Diffan
Great Reader

USA
4494 Posts

Posted - 27 Sep 2010 :  16:43:18  Show Profile Send Diffan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie

......it's a LOT of story, and that it includes the Bladesinger class.

Cheers




Don't you mean the Essential Swordmage: Bladesinger?
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Snowblood
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Australia
388 Posts

Posted - 27 Sep 2010 :  17:14:43  Show Profile Send Snowblood a Private Message  Reply with Quote
"Well, I do--but then, I wrote about a third of it. And unfortunately, I can't tell you anything about it . . . other than that it isn't quite like anything WotC has ever done before, it's a LOT of story, and that it includes the Bladesinger class..."

Oh Goody.....so is there much elf lore....can you drop even obscure hints?????










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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire

USA
15724 Posts

Posted - 27 Sep 2010 :  21:51:36  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie

I for one see signs of a more flavorful direction in regards to lore and description--the Essentials products are more descriptive/flavor-text rich, and I think the Neverwinter Campaign Guide--when it comes out--will provide a LOT of Realmslore for you guys.

I like to describe it as acres and acres of story.
VERY much looking forward to this then.

Got my Ex-wife to agree to buy me the Essentials books, "for the kids".

DAMN, I'm good.

"I have never in my life learned anything from any man who agreed with me" --- Dudley Field Malone

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althen artren
Senior Scribe

USA
780 Posts

Posted - 27 Sep 2010 :  23:22:32  Show Profile Send althen artren a Private Message  Reply with Quote
wrong Markus, just wrong.
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althen artren
Senior Scribe

USA
780 Posts

Posted - 28 Sep 2010 :  23:07:08  Show Profile Send althen artren a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hmm, I killed yet another thread.
It seems when ever I post on somebodys topic,
I am the last one to comment, so all scribes
beware Althen Artren.
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Ashe Ravenheart
Great Reader

USA
3254 Posts

Posted - 29 Sep 2010 :  05:44:54  Show Profile Send Ashe Ravenheart a Private Message  Reply with Quote
<Posts to cheer Althen up so he doesn't think he's a topic-killer>

I actually DO know everything. I just have a very poor index of my knowledge.

Ashe's Character Sheet

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Erik Scott de Bie
Forgotten Realms Author

USA
4598 Posts

Posted - 29 Sep 2010 :  06:25:14  Show Profile  Visit Erik Scott de Bie's Homepage Send Erik Scott de Bie a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well, this is off-topic, but since those are direct questions, I'll answer. Apologies to Ashe for hijacking his thread a little.

quote:
Originally posted by Diffan

Don't you mean the Essential Swordmage: Bladesinger?

I'm only saying what they've announced, which is that the NWCG includes the "Bladesinger class." Whether that's an essentials version of the swordmage or something else entirely is, at this point, unknown.

quote:
Originally posted by Snowblood

Oh Goody.....so is there much elf lore....can you drop even obscure hints?????
Well, I can definitely say there IS stuff about elves. And it MAY have something to do with the bladesinger.

Also, hmm, obscure hints . . . I put in *at least* one thing inspired by one of the old school FR computer games. And yes . . . I mean Gateway to the Savage Frontier. (TPK on that part so many times!)

Cheers

Erik Scott de Bie

'Tis easier to destroy than to create.

Author of a number of Realms novels (GHOSTWALKER, DEPTHS OF MADNESS, and the SHADOWBANE series), contributor to the NEVERWINTER CAMPAIGN GUIDE and SHADOWFELL: GLOOMWROUGHT AND BEYOND, Twitch DM of the Dungeon Scrawlers, currently playing "The Westgate Irregulars"
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Dennis
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Posted - 30 Sep 2010 :  17:07:44  Show Profile Send Dennis a Private Message  Reply with Quote

Interesting article. Ed's last words sound like subtle admonishment.


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