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Eltheron
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 Posted - 26 Aug 2011 : 20:20:10
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Originally posted by Saer Cormaeril
My only position is that the views of others on their enjoyment of the setting are valid. Eltheron's position was to deride these folks as "dumb, stupid" etc. Who was discourteous, again?
Again, it is perfectly reasonable to note that high-level, active 'good' NPC's can be problematic.
Dude, seriously. In your first post you yourself stated that you come up with explanations for the Chosens' absence/being busy.
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Originally posted by Saer Cormaeril
...So the onus really lies on the DM to make stories that are compelling in other ways; fulfilling destinies, proving their valor, finding their place, that kind of thing. I think that comes with experience, which can take many years to develop. It's a lot of work on the DM's part, too, to come up with things that the Chosen are 'busy' with... my home game is run on multiple tiers, with high-epic, epic, mid-level and low level all running concurrently, so that helps.
Any way, I don't think the types of complaints cited in this thread are completely baseless.
You are clearly arguing the exact same point as the Anti-Realms people in that other website's thread. Their point, specifically, is that their "enjoyment of the setting" is ruined/flawed/etc because they constantly have to keep the Chosen busy or defend why they're absent and can't help the PCs. That IS your position above, as well.
I've given many reasons why that particular belief is wrong-headed, a mistaken belief.
Where are your reasons, where is your "proof" that their claims have any actual validity? The burden of proof is on you to show that their beliefs have validity.
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"The very best possible post-fourteenth-century Realms lets down those who love the specific, detailed social, political and magical situation, with its thousands of characters, developed over forty years, and want to learn more about it; and those who'd be open to a new one with equal depth, which there just isn't time to re-produce; and those repelled, some past the point of no return, by the bad-taste-and-plausibility gap of things done to the world when its guardianship was less careful."
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Edited by - Eltheron on 26 Aug 2011 20:20:40 |
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Saer Cormaeril
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 26 Aug 2011 : 21:05:56
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And the two sentences prior to the text you emboldened support the opposite view point, and the post taken as a whole indicates that I believe both perspectives have some validity.
Seriously, dude, quit trollin. |
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Diffan
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 26 Aug 2011 : 21:50:10
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If the people complaining about the Realm's epic level NPCs have a shared experienc then their opinion is not baseless. They have had a DM do something wrong to our beliefs but that's not necessarily wrong for them. And because adventures sometimes fall into NPCs strongholds there needs to be a reason why they're not showing up least you break some form of verisimilitude.
So while we might not agree with how they've played in the Realms, it takes a certain elitist stand point to think there is a right way and a wrong way to play in the Realms. And please, attack the argument not each other. |
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Edited by - Diffan on 26 Aug 2011 21:52:03 |
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Brimstone
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 27 Aug 2011 : 01:06:54
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This scroll isn't sealed yet?
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"These things also I have observed: that knowledge of our world is
to be nurtured like a precious flower, for it is the most precious
thing we have. Wherefore guard the word written and heed
words unwritten and set them down ere they fade . . . Learn
then, well, the arts of reading, writing, and listening true, and they
will lead you to the greatest art of all: understanding."
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 27 Aug 2011 : 01:52:41
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It is now. 
And I must say that I'm quite disappointed in a number of scribes at this moment. I thought we'd all managed to come together on this, in terms of respecting the opinions of others.
Apparently, however, there are still a few individuals who require the false validation that comes with ridiculing others.
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Edited by - The Sage on 27 Aug 2011 01:53:38 |
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