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Kilvan
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 Posted - 28 Sep 2011 : 15:29:55
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Hello fellow scribes
Super non-realm related question: If a target of an orb spell saves against the blinding/dazing/whatever secondary effect, does he still takes the damage if he has the Mettle ability*?
MY take, the rule the as per written says no, the rule as intended says yes, but I wanted to know your take on it.
* Mettle is an ability that negates all secondary effect on a successful Fortitude or Will save. Problem is, the orb spell's main effect is damage with no save, and a secondary status effect which allows a fort or will save.
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Edited by - Kilvan on 28 Sep 2011 15:30:22
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Diffan
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Posted - 28 Sep 2011 : 15:59:11
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My take would be that he takes the damage (as there is no save) and the effect of the Orb (blindness, daze, etc..) would not happen.
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Hawkins
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Posted - 28 Sep 2011 : 18:06:57
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| I believe that Diffan is correct. |
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Grunker
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Posted - 28 Sep 2011 : 20:58:51
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Diffan is indeed correct.
Mettle only applies when a succesful save would incur a secondary effect. This is not the case with Orb spells - here, you take damage and THEN make a save. If it had said "the target is blinded unless he saves, if it saves, it takes X damage" Mettle would have negated the damage :) |
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Kilvan
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Posted - 28 Sep 2011 : 21:05:05
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| Thanks for the replies, that does make sense. |
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orb spells and mettle (3.5 question)
