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Aryalómë
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Posted - 09 Sep 2012 :  04:15:12  Show Profile Send Aryalómë a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
I'm trying to make a list of all different kinds of fantasy settings that contain the High Elf type of Elf. It would be very nice if I could get help on here, seeing as many of you know very many different settings.

Basically, I'm looking for any Elf in an RPG that matches or comes close to they High Elf archetype that is common in many fantasy games.

These are the ones I have so far:
Warhammer (High Elves/Asur)
The Elder Scrolls (High Elves/Altmer)
Forgotten Realms (Gold Elves/Ar'Tel'Quessir)
Greyhawk (Grey Elves/Mountain Elves)
Everquest (High Elves/Koada'Dal)
DragonLance (High Elves/Silvanesti)
Blackmoor (Cumasti)
Warcraft (High Elves/Quel'Dorei)
Middle-earth (Calaquendi: Vanyar, Noldor, Falmari)
D&D 4e (Eladrin)
Ljosalfar (Kingdoms of Amalur)

These are the only ones that I have come up with. If you know any, please, by all means, add to my list. I'm one of the biggest High Elf fans ever!

CorellonsDevout
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Posted - 09 Sep 2012 :  05:27:45  Show Profile Send CorellonsDevout a Private Message  Reply with Quote
You know more than I do! I am a big elf fan myself; they're my favorite fantasy race, but I can't think of any other books with "high" elves other than what you mentioned. There are elves in the Noble Dead saga that remained on one continent while others sailed to a different one, so the dialects are different (I can't remember the names of the continents. Names in that series are so hard to say/spell), but I don't think the ones who remained on the orignal lands could be considered high elves.

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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 09 Sep 2012 :  05:52:49  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
It may help if you describe what you think of as the High Elf archetype. For me, it's pretty simple -- pointy ears, likes trees and bows, lives for half of forever.

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The Sage
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Posted - 09 Sep 2012 :  06:07:49  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Aryalómë

DragonLance (High Elves/Silvanesti)
Depending on what DL sources you draw from, you could also make the argument for the Elderwild Elves [who are the ancestral elves of both Silvanesti and Kagonesti] as "High" Elves.

But, as Wooly notes above, that depends on how exactly you define the concept of "High Elf."

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Quale
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Posted - 09 Sep 2012 :  08:13:22  Show Profile Send Quale a Private Message  Reply with Quote
there's a lot of elf-like creatures in fantasy, close to high are Sidhelien (Birthright), Tiste Liosan (Malazan), Dragaeran (Dragaera), Eledhel (Midkemia), Nonmen (Earwa), Melniboneans (Elric), Aen Sidhe (Witcher), Sithi (Osten Ard), Westfolk (Deverry), Tanu (Pliocene Exile) ...
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Aryalómë
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Posted - 09 Sep 2012 :  12:46:02  Show Profile Send Aryalómë a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Here Wikipedia gives out the most basic of High Elf archetypes, to answer Wooly's question:

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Many fantasy settings contain elves, often, particularly in western fantasy elves are divided into multiple different kinds. High elves are one of the most common sub-types of elf appearing in many different fantasy settings.
High elves are distinguished from other fantasy elves by their place of living, as they usually dwell in stone cities, instead of woods, like wood-elves. High elves and dark elves can be used to contrast respectively the good elves and the evil elves, as done in Warhammer. Typically high elves consider themselves the most purely good race of all, and haughtily view all other races beneath them, especially other elven races, and they are usually the most magically developed of all elves.
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Thauranil
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Posted - 09 Sep 2012 :  13:45:16  Show Profile Send Thauranil a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The Tiste Andii and more so thier cousins the Liosan from Steven Eriksons Malazan series have prominent High elven traits but are not technically identified as high elves.
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Aryalómë
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Posted - 09 Sep 2012 :  16:20:56  Show Profile Send Aryalómë a Private Message  Reply with Quote
All of these are great guys; thanks! Does anyone know of any rpg that has them? Especially any lesser known settings?
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Quale
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Posted - 09 Sep 2012 :  20:53:32  Show Profile Send Quale a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Dawnforge campaign setting has the dawn elves, 3.5 Birthright CS has the Sidhelien, 7th Sea book called the Book of Nightmares also has the Sidhe, the LA is +7 or something. Kalamar I think has the elves called lathlan, but I don't remember nothing special about them. And I've seen a d20 version of Elric a few years ago, not sure what's the name of the book.
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Aryalómë
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Posted - 10 Sep 2012 :  01:35:06  Show Profile Send Aryalómë a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Quale, you're a huge well of awesome information. Thanks!! I really like the Dawn Elves and the Melnibonéans. Do you know where I can find any extra information on them, besides the rpg source books?
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Aryalómë
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Posted - 10 Sep 2012 :  01:45:55  Show Profile Send Aryalómë a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The Nonmen are also extremely interesting too. I'm DYING for information on them @_@
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Quale
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Posted - 10 Sep 2012 :  10:12:32  Show Profile Send Quale a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The dawn elves were only in Dawnforge: Crucible of Legend, and the player's guide had a few new feats. Unfortunately that's all.

The Melnibonéans, what's in Elric novels, tough his travels to other lands are the main subject. I don't know any other source. It says here that the rpg Stormbringer has more details about the isle, I don't have those.

The Nonmen, they are from the Second Apocalypse novels by Bakker, it's a dark twist on Tolkien's elves. There's not much information about them until the fifth book when one insane member of their race shows up. This wiki has the info about them, it's from the encyclopedic glossary at back of the novel.
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Aryalómë
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Posted - 11 Sep 2012 :  00:14:14  Show Profile Send Aryalómë a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thanks AGAIN Quale! These peoples are so interesting. I really wish there was more about them.
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