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Ezindir the dark
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Posted - 18 Jan 2004 :  12:02:34  Show Profile  Visit Ezindir the dark's Homepage Send Ezindir the dark a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
Hail!!
Some weeks ago I bought all the NwN games. But when I came home I discovered to my horror that they had not putted in the manuals. So now I wont to read about the new, cool prestige classes I cant , so I wondered if anyone knows of a side that contains informasion about the new prestige classes, and other things the manual might contain.

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Zacas
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Posted - 18 Jan 2004 :  12:30:58  Show Profile  Visit Zacas's Homepage Send Zacas a Private Message  Reply with Quote
i would think that the main site for the game, nwn.bioware.com, would have most of that stuff... never looked for it... you might try going back to the store and let them know your copy didn't come with a manual, unless it was a used copy..

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EcThelion
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Posted - 18 Jan 2004 :  16:08:57  Show Profile  Visit EcThelion's Homepage Send EcThelion a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Pick the Dragon-blood-class!!!

I don't have the third expansion myself, but that class seems to be the coolest. You even get wings...

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Shadowlord
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Posted - 18 Jan 2004 :  16:11:10  Show Profile  Visit Shadowlord's Homepage Send Shadowlord a Private Message  Reply with Quote
And if that Bioware does not whet your thirst for knowledge, ask me, and i will provide.....

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Ezindir the dark
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Posted - 18 Jan 2004 :  18:29:24  Show Profile  Visit Ezindir the dark's Homepage Send Ezindir the dark a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Good Good, And NO i will not pick the dragon class becouse I already have angelwings from a hack and if I get those dragonwings I will ahve two sett of wings and that looks really stupid. And Shadowlord, can you provide me some informaision about the prestige class Shadow dancer?

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EcThelion
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Posted - 18 Jan 2004 :  20:07:55  Show Profile  Visit EcThelion's Homepage Send EcThelion a Private Message  Reply with Quote
What!?
But... but... the Dragon-class has teh coolest abilities... Fire Immunity... innate Dragon-Attack (I'd like to see those damn squirrels kill me when I use that on them, *AND* have fire immunity! hah!) And lots of HP, and... and... a COOL TITLE!

...

*sob*
Oh well. Each their taste, I guess. What 'ya gonna be?

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Ezindir the dark
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Posted - 18 Jan 2004 :  22:08:04  Show Profile  Visit Ezindir the dark's Homepage Send Ezindir the dark a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I think I am going to be a shadowdancer, and anyway a 1/4 Drow 1/4 Avariel and a half dragon would be a little stupid.

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Shadowlord
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Posted - 18 Jan 2004 :  22:16:03  Show Profile  Visit Shadowlord's Homepage Send Shadowlord a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ha, a shadowdancer is my class, huh, it figures......
Its in the name, you know, SHADOWlord.

Shadowdancer:
Operating in the border between light and darkness, shadowdancers are nimble artists of deception. They are mysterious and unknown, never completely trusted but always inducing wonder when met.

Rogues, bards and monks make excellent shadowdancers, but fighters, barbarians, rangers and paladins also find that shadowdancer abilities allow them to strike at their opponents with surprise and skill. Wizard, sorcerer, cleric and druid shadowdancers employ the defensive capabilities inherent in the prestige class to allow them to cast their spells from safety and move away quickly. Despite their link with shadows and trickery, shadowdancers are as often good as evil. They may use their incredible abilities as they wish.

Shadowdancers often work in troupes, never staying in one place too long. Some use their abilities to entertain. Others operate as thieves, using their abilities to infiltrate past defenses and dupe others. All shadowdancer troupes maintain an aura of mystery among the populace, who never know whether to think well or ill of them.

Shadowdancer Special and Spell-Like Abilities
Each class has a range of abilities that make it substantially different from the other classes. These abilities are an integral part of your character’s class, and mastering them will aid you.

The following are class features of the shadowdancer prestige class. Please note that a spell-like ability is mostly the same as a spell except they are gained automatically and do not need to be memorized, and (most importantly) do not show up in a spell book.

Hit Die: d8
Skill Points at Each Level: 6 + Int modifier
Proficiencies: Simple weapons and light armor

Level 1
Hide in Plain Sight: The shadowdancer is able to use the Hide skill even while being observed.

Level 2:
Evasion - No damage on a successful reflex save.
Darkvision - Able to see in dim areas.
Uncanny Dodge 1 - Retain dexterity bonus to armor class, even if flat-footed.

Level 3:
Shadow Daze: Once per day, the shadowdancer may inflict an illusory daze upon a target. This daze lasts for five rounds.
Summon Shadow: Once per day, the shadowdancer can summon a shadow. This shadow is extremely difficult to turn and becomes more powerful as the shadowdancer gains levels.

Level 4:
Shadow Evade: Three times per day, the shadowdancer can call upon the shadows in the area to help conceal her. She gains a 5 percent concealment bonus, damage reduction of 5/+1 and a +1 AC bonus. The effect lasts for 5 rounds. This improves to 10 percent concealment, 5/+2 damage reduction, and +2 AC bonus at level 6 and at level 8 it becomes 15 percent concealment, 10/+2 damage reduction and +3 AC. At level 10, Shadow Evade grants 20 percent concealment, 10/+3 damage reduction and a +4 AC bonus.

Level 5:
Defensive Roll - Avoid death with a reflex save.
Uncanny Dodge 2 - +1 reflex saving throws.

Level 7:
Slippery Mind - Failed Will saving throw gets automatic reroll.

Level 10:
Improved Evasion - Failed reflex saving throws result in only half damage.
Uncanny Dodge 3 - +2 reflex saving throws.

Class Skills (skill descriptions):
Hide
Listen
Move Silently
Diplomacy: Persuade
Pick Pocket
Search
Spot
Tumble

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"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri.

Edited by - Shadowlord on 18 Jan 2004 22:23:05
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Arivia
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Posted - 18 Jan 2004 :  22:32:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ezindir, take a look inside the 'docs' folder of your NWN install. There should be pdf versions of all three game manuals within.
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Ezindir the dark
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Posted - 18 Jan 2004 :  22:33:36  Show Profile  Visit Ezindir the dark's Homepage Send Ezindir the dark a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Shadowlord, what should I do without you?
And by the way, dosent they get any skills beyond lv 10, or do they count as a new class when the get epic?

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Shadowlord
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Posted - 18 Jan 2004 :  22:43:57  Show Profile  Visit Shadowlord's Homepage Send Shadowlord a Private Message  Reply with Quote
You would not be able to live without me, my friend.

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"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri.
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Ezindir the dark
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Posted - 18 Jan 2004 :  22:46:16  Show Profile  Visit Ezindir the dark's Homepage Send Ezindir the dark a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Is suppose not, it can be pretty dangerus on the streets wihtout a drow/shade assasin to protect you.

But what about my question about the epic classes?

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Shadowlord
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Posted - 18 Jan 2004 :  22:48:48  Show Profile  Visit Shadowlord's Homepage Send Shadowlord a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Oh, well, you would be known as an epic shadowdancer and get a few more abilities, but i won't spoil it anymore for you....

The Chosen of Vhaeraun
"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri.
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EcThelion
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Posted - 19 Jan 2004 :  00:02:02  Show Profile  Visit EcThelion's Homepage Send EcThelion a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I will burn you all to... to... something that is very burnt! Hah!

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Shadowlord
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Posted - 19 Jan 2004 :  01:24:11  Show Profile  Visit Shadowlord's Homepage Send Shadowlord a Private Message  Reply with Quote
So? I can hide in plain sight, so you cant see me, then I shall backstab you, Haha!

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"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri.
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EcThelion
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Posted - 19 Jan 2004 :  12:24:15  Show Profile  Visit EcThelion's Homepage Send EcThelion a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'll just blow everything around me into smitherines! You can't hide from the explosion! WOhaha!

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Ezindir the dark
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Posted - 19 Jan 2004 :  15:59:32  Show Profile  Visit Ezindir the dark's Homepage Send Ezindir the dark a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well if it is a fireball you are talking about, Yes we can escape it by dodging, so I think you have a dagger in your back.

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EcThelion
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Posted - 19 Jan 2004 :  16:21:20  Show Profile  Visit EcThelion's Homepage Send EcThelion a Private Message  Reply with Quote
How about a... (I know this doesn't work in NWN, but what the heck!) Contigency Fireball,, Fireball, Sunburst!? Let me see you dodge *that*.

Anyways. I meant the Innate ability. (Gotta love 10D10 daamge... it is 10D10, right?)

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Ezindir the dark
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Posted - 19 Jan 2004 :  16:26:20  Show Profile  Visit Ezindir the dark's Homepage Send Ezindir the dark a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'm sure I could find some way to escape that, but I do not have as much time to spear as you.

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EcThelion
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Posted - 19 Jan 2004 :  18:11:39  Show Profile  Visit EcThelion's Homepage Send EcThelion a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I usually tend to STAB time, not SPEAR it. (heeheehee)

Okay, then. You survived my innate ability. How do you propose to damage me while I'm protected by my Greater Stoneskin?

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Ezindir the dark
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Posted - 19 Jan 2004 :  19:07:05  Show Profile  Visit Ezindir the dark's Homepage Send Ezindir the dark a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Heard about a little spell called breach?

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EcThelion
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Posted - 19 Jan 2004 :  19:38:58  Show Profile  Visit EcThelion's Homepage Send EcThelion a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Huh.... you're a Mage/Thief?

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Ezindir the dark
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Posted - 19 Jan 2004 :  19:45:43  Show Profile  Visit Ezindir the dark's Homepage Send Ezindir the dark a Private Message  Reply with Quote
No!!
That charackter was a mage dual vilding daggers, and that do not mean that I am a theif too you know.
And that charackter would probably not kill you or Elmister, no I was talking about my elven kensai.

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Shadowlord
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Posted - 19 Jan 2004 :  20:02:52  Show Profile  Visit Shadowlord's Homepage Send Shadowlord a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hmmm, have you ever heard of items that give you a resistance to fire, oh forgotten one?

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EcThelion
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Posted - 19 Jan 2004 :  20:51:19  Show Profile  Visit EcThelion's Homepage Send EcThelion a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Talking to me? I meant the Prestige Class (Forgotten the nname) with the Dragon-stuff. Level 8, or 10, or something you gain innate Fire Immunity.

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Ezindir the dark
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Posted - 19 Jan 2004 :  20:55:54  Show Profile  Visit Ezindir the dark's Homepage Send Ezindir the dark a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Red dragon diciple I would asume? And you YOU get fire resistance in lv 8 I think.

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Shadowlord
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Posted - 19 Jan 2004 :  21:00:12  Show Profile  Visit Shadowlord's Homepage Send Shadowlord a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Red Dragon Disciple it is, Ezindir. I have seen lately that putting my trust in you as an ally was not a bad decision at all......

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EcThelion
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Posted - 28 Jan 2004 :  16:25:09  Show Profile  Visit EcThelion's Homepage Send EcThelion a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Hmmm, have you ever heard of items that give you a resistance to fire, oh forgotten one?

I wouldn't sacritifce +2 AC / Saving Throws for +50% Fire resistance.

I just had to say that.

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Ezindir the dark
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Posted - 28 Jan 2004 :  16:44:08  Show Profile  Visit Ezindir the dark's Homepage Send Ezindir the dark a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well, with Ring of Fire Control or somthing, youl have 60 fire resistance + a few spells without casting time.

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EcThelion
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Posted - 28 Jan 2004 :  16:48:38  Show Profile  Visit EcThelion's Homepage Send EcThelion a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hm. Well... I'd still pick the +2 ring for the Saving Throws. And the Extra AC is allways handy. And a +2 Ring with Gaxx (or a fancy +Wiz Spells ring) is my choice over Controll Fire Elementals, and day.

If you want Fire Res, just cast a Fire Shield. There u go 50 (or 75?)% fire resistance in a blink!

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Posted - 29 Jan 2004 :  07:11:13  Show Profile  Visit Signal-9's Homepage Send Signal-9 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Sorry I didnt read every reply, but...

If your game didnt come with any manuals... where was your game CD-Key printed?

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